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Preview of Looming Democracy - Two Months of PPP in the Limelight

Salim Chauhan December 29, 2007

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#38 Posted by anil on December 30, 2007 12:41:33 pm
Re: # 17

Romair:

"......barely 30-35% of the people vote...out of that ppp gets 30%....so around 10% of the eligible voters is the ppp votebank....even if all of them weep,..."

I cannot say about the weep, but there is certainly a leap. Are you not making an assumption that "voted" voters are uniformly distributed among "eligible" voters, and that 100% of PPP voted? Great leap, Romair.
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#37 Posted by anil on December 30, 2007 12:35:24 pm
Re: # 28

Salim Sahib:

"...People who instigate violence for momentary gain are bound to piss off the Almighty...."

Who is this Almighty. Unless you are ready to make Awam, the Almighty. Problems will stand between you and your goal.

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#36 Posted by Urstruly on December 30, 2007 12:32:45 pm
Re: # 35

Good advice but unfortunately it is one of the impossibles. A few days ago someone explained the situation in Pakistan with an excellent example. Imagine that Pakistan is a well from where all Pakistanis drink water; it gives them sustenance and a promise of life. But then a dog falls into that well. Now it does not matter how many thousands of buckets of water you pull out of the well, it will remain unclean and unpure as long as the carcass of dead dog is left inside the well. There is absolutely no other way but to get the rotting carcass out of the well if people still want to benefit from it. The carcass of dead dog represents the fouj and especially Musharraf who have ruined the clean water for everyone.

Dog must go.
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#35 Posted by cliftonbridge on December 30, 2007 12:19:38 pm
Darling saleemy,

You are right about the hearts of ordinary pakistani's who have mourned her in all genuineness, despite the horrific consequences of Zardaris national party.

As usual those hearts will now become hardened as we all watch helplessly as the politics of rage seperationism and hatred take over.

I think Pakistani's need to take a breath, search for morality and forgive each other.... as none of us are innocent. This cycle of hate and violence is the real tragedy.
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#34 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 11:47:37 am
Zeena #1 {"Teri yaad aai teray jaaniy keh baad......"}

Yes,
Terya jaane ke baad teri yaad aayi. Very well stated and to the point emotionally. I have managed to separate my admiration and pain for BB the Dukhtar-e-Pakistan from my memories and anger at Mrs. Zardari, the Saabiq Wazeer-e-Azam of Pakistan.

As a politician, a campaigner, a speaker, she was charismatic, articulate, well-spoken, brilliant, and presented the best face of Pakistan to the world. As a premier, a vaDeri, an autocratic party leader, an ethnic hate-monger, and an administrator she was quite evil and incompetent.

In death, I mourn her for her qualities and what she COULD HAVE accomplished - perhaps if she had married someone more human.
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#33 Posted by Urstruly on December 30, 2007 11:43:18 am

PP has chosen the heir apparent as their new king - congrats to all democrats here.
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#32 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 11:41:38 am
#2 rf786 {"Salim Sahib,
Not your greatest moments. ..If PPP was disorganized, so was the Govt that has demonstrated its utter and complete incompetence pre and post BB murder. Or, maybe we need more elections before we get some elctoral maturity."}

Bismillah Bhai,
I have had worse ones. :) I agree with your comment about the government. Their incompetence was demonstrated when they stormed the Lal Masjid, which BTW started their steep slide into this quicksand. Maybe even the firing of the CJ earlier was a step in the wrong direction. But then, the comment about MukhtaraaN Mai preceded that - so it does go a ways back. :(
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#31 Posted by Urstruly on December 30, 2007 11:40:39 am
Re: # 21

His math is indeed incorrect because if we go by his math not 10% but 9% of total population vote for PP. He gave you 1% extra.

The calculation is just about seems right assuming that no election is ever rigged. The fact of the matter still is that despite rigging and all, 70% of voting population either remains disenfranchised or has no confidence or stake in the so-called "democratic process".
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#30 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 11:37:42 am
Zeemax #3 and #4 {"Even before the violence had begun, Aitezaz Ahsan was saying to GEO in a broken voice that Punjab will have a tremendous responsibility in soothing Sindh's feelings because it is the second of their Prime Ministers whom Punjab has sent in a box to them in the dark of the night in a C-130."}

Zee,
My folks back home told me that in LaRkana, Sindhi youths were chanting:

Pakistan ko toRayNge
Punjab ko nahin choRayNge

I agree with you that the PPP has always chanted the "democracy" mantra, but has itself been a hereditary monarchy.

I am disgusted by the violent ethnic twist that the PPP goons have given to this tragedy.

Thank you for your feedback and let's pray for Pakistan.
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#29 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 11:32:58 am
nasah #6 {"Indeed a 'real surprise' -- It should also tell you right there as to who did it -- shouldn't it?
The rest of the article is pure MQM -- the kettle complaining about the pot!"}

Nasah,
You seem to be connecting some dots, but please stay on the same page. That is one far-reaching leap.
I can't help your bias against the MQM which, BTW, was not mentioned once in the article.
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#28 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 11:28:17 am
#7 tvarad {"If it worked for Jinnah on January 16th, 1946, the same tactics should work today too, right? You, as a mohajir, should be able to understand it better than anyone."}

TV Airhead,
Touche. Good point. Unfortunately, the joke is on Jinnah - it didn't work then and it won't work now. Just follow Modi until his numerous successes finally expose him for what he is - a demagogue and a charlatan. People who instigate violence for momentary gain are bound to piss off the Almighty.
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#27 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 11:24:22 am
#9 hamidumdum2 {"salim mian,
shahbash naujawan ! ........ i guess you too could not resist the temptation of throwing gasoline on a burning fire with your silly comment about 'mohajir compassion' and 'urdu logic' .....your intentions are evident ..... shame on you and the jackass you rode in on ! ..... "}

Hamidumdum Sahib,
Shukriya Hazrat - aap ki inaayat he. I take your feedback very seriously - especially when you are somewhat sober. :)
Sir, I wasn't pouring the gasoline on the fire. It was actually the PPP goons pouring the gasoline on poor Mohajirs sitting in buses, cars, and trapped in some factory. Why burning Mohajirs in Karachi for the assassination of BB in Pindi, possibly directed by forces in Wanna Wanna, makes sense is the reason for my own disgust. I thought I was rather restrained in showing my MQM anger at this vulgar behavior in our city. My jackass sends his salaams to you too, my friend - apparently he speaks your language - GHOL MAKHORA.
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#26 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 11:18:03 am
#10 and #11 okhla99 {"What a crappy article, Salim.
One expected much better from you. Sadly disappointed.
And now, it seems Bilawal will be the new chairman of PPP.... ten percent will be co-chair...."}

Dear Okee from Muskogee :)
I guess you really did feel that way - you posted your disappointment twice! I am deeply sorry.

Chowk Staff,
Please refund Mr. Okhla99's money and without the customary 10%. Thanks
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#25 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 11:05:38 am
#13 kamath {"Very thoughtful observation and article yaar! Very good!"}

Kamath Sahib,
Thank you, sir, for your encouraging comments. It's so difficult to write when one is mourning in grief as well as vomiting in disgust.
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#24 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 11:02:53 am
bubba #14 {"Totally racist polarizing views expressed by this person in this article. Sorry chowk staff that you have scooped this low to publish this. "}

Bubba Sahib,
Thank you very much for taking the time out to read this rubbish.

Chowk Staff,
Please refund this gentleman's money. Thank you. :)
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#23 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 11:00:40 am
#21 hamidumdum2 {"Re: # 17
romair you fool,.... now, let me go and read the rest of your miserable post to see what other gems are hiding there ......."}

Hamidumdum Sahbi,
LOL - I love the way you are able to provide 83% of your response based on reading 11% of his post. It's no wonder that you deserve 116% of my admiration. :)
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