Making a Mockery of Democracy

3- Killing of political opponents, on May 12.
I don't agree with May 12 version as I gave news cuttings.
I am also a vocal opponent of killing political opponents. Because Multicultural place like Karachi should have multiple voices.

mohar #76 {"Just make sure you allocate a patch of land somewhere for mohajirs... I don't want these people to turn around and knock at our door... :) "]

Mohar Bhayya,
Not even a couple of kshatryas coming back home? :)

krashid: you write "I just put the news. As reported. I am not MQM.", and then proceed to plaster this board with mqm literature and mqm candidates listings. And I see you totally ignored what I wrote about speaking for yourself, rather than cutting and pasting miles of literature.

Whats the deal, my friend? You and I are not going to change the world by writing on chowk. So relax and spare yourself all this agony. :-)

krashid1961 #80
Very convincing information. Perhaps the vocal bigots can feel free to express their apologies and express their remorse for their venomous prejudice.:)

4- Supporting Military dictatorship, while ridiculing Civil Society.
{Mr. Altaf Hussain, Founder and Leader of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) has appealed to the President of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf for the compensation of thousands of affected families during the last days of marauding incidents in Sindh after the assassination of Mohtarama Benazir Bhutto.}
{Altaf Hussain: Charsadda Blast 24 December 2007
Altaf Hussain condemns suicide attack in Charsadda,}

{Altaf Hussain pays condolence to Nawab Khair Buksh Marri
Mr. Altaf Hussain Founder and Leader of the Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) expressed his deep and profound sorrow over the unexpected death of Balach Marri son of Nawab Khair Buksh Marri in a clash. While commenting on the death incident, Mr. Hussain said that the Government should disclose the real facts to the nation about the death incident of Balach Marri.}
ALTAF HUSSAIN APPEALS TO PRESIDENT AND CARETAKER PRIME MINISTER TO SYMPATHETICALLY CONSIDER TO ALLOW THE TV CHANNELS TO RESTART THEIR BROADCAST THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS AND TALKS



{London – 19th November 2007.....MQM Founder & Leader Mr Altaf Hussain has sympathetically appealed to the President General Pervez Musharraf and Caretaker Prime Minister Mohammad Mian Soomro that as the election schedule is being announce on 20th November and general elections are to be held on 8th January as announced by the Election Commission, therefore, by once again demonstrating magnanimity as shown before repeatedly by them, they should sympathetically consider to allow Geo and ARY TV to restart their broadcast through negotiations and talks}
{ Altaf Hussain : 08 November 2007
Altaf Hussain Felicitates Hindu Community on Diwali: Mr Altaf Hussain, Founder and Leader of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) extended his felicitation to the Hindu community living throughout the world including Pakistan on their religious festival of Diwali}
Altaf Hussain : 03 November 2007
NO POLITICAL PARTY CAN EXPRESS PLEASURE ON THE IMPOSITION OF EMERGENCY – ALTAF HUSSAIN
DEMANDS OF THE PRESIDENT GENERAL PERVEZ MUSHARRAF TO LIFT THE EMERGENCY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION
{MQM Founder & Leader Mr Altaf Hussain while commenting on the “imposition of emergency” has stated that no political party can express pleasure and the MQM also regrets this decision. He demanded of the President General Pervez Musharraf to lift the emergency as soon as possible and restore the Constitution }
To be continued

Chacha abhi bhi waqt he. Qabl isske ke doosri taaNg bhi uttar aaye, maafi maaNg lo. Taassub sirf ek bimaari he aur la ilaaj nahin he. :)

majumdar #66 {"How so? How many people have MQM killed? How many people were murdered in B'desh at ZAB's behest, how many in B'stan and NWFP in the ZAB Govt. And how many Mojos in Karachi by BB- N Babur combine, and how many killed by Talibs spawned by BB's 2nd Regime."}

Majumdar Bhai,
Very good questions - I hope that you get your answers. All I can say is that Mojo bhayyas are called a "non-martial race" when military employment is the need and "bloodthirsty, organized killers" when bigots need to find escape goats for their own violence. :(

{Altaf Hussain appeal for ceasefire: 29 October 2007
CEASEFIRE BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT AND RESISTING GROUP IN SWAT IS WELCOMING – ALTAF HUSSAIN
London-29 October 2007 Mr Altaf Hussain, founder and leader of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) welcoming the ceasefire between the Government and resistant group asked both sides that it is necessary for the sake of long term and sustainable peace to analyse the situation which lead to the war and to ponder that? who would benefit from this war. He further enquired would the people of Swat or Pakistan benefit from this war? ]
[ Mr. Altaf Hussain, Founder and Leader of the Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) said that Pakistan is confronted with extremely crucial situation. The issue of Northern Areas, Sawat and Waziristan should be resolved through dialogue and negotiation.]
According to him, on May 11, Jehangir called at the MQM International Secretariat in London and had a telephonic conversation with Mohammad Anwar, a senior member of the MQM in

London.

{Sattar claimed that on May 11 Asma informed him on the telephone that, “on May 12, there will be a bloodbath, bullets will be fired, and a conspiracy is being hatched against you (MQM).”}
{ Disappeared Families: Protest 11 May 2007
Families of 28 “Disappeared” Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) workers held a peaceful protest out side the Supreme Court in Islamabad
Islamabad-11 May 2007 Families of 28 involuntarily “Disappeared” workers of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) held a peaceful protest out side the Supreme Court in Islamabad on Friday. Parents, Sisters, Brothers, children and relatives of the 28 missing workers of MQM had assembled out side the Supreme Court displaying play cards, banners and the photographs of the missing workers. During the demonstration, emotional scenes including wailing and crying were visible. The demonstrators briefed the representatives of Electronic and Print media the details of the arrests and “Disappearances” of their loved ones during arbitrary detention. }
{Altaf Hussain: Sucidal Attack in Charsadda 28, April 2007
SUICIDAL ATTACK IN CHARSADDA IS NAKED TERRORISM – ALTAF HUSSAIN
London – 28th April 2007: MQM Founder & Leader Mr Altaf Hussain has strongly condemned the suicide bomb attack in Charsadda, NWFP during the public meeting of Pakistan Peoples Party (Sherpao).}
tO BE CONTINUED.

#65 tvarad {"For the faujis, Pakistan is their own Swiss Bank and fiefdom, so why would they need to stash away their money elsewhere and buy up palaces in far-away lands?"}

TV Dude,
That's what I always say - charity begins at home. BB didn't even trust LaRkana for her stash. :(

#64 root {"Salim_chauhan,
Maybe you also did not watch what MQM did in May of 2007. How many people were killed by them and did any one of them was brought to justice? MQM is much bigger evil company than PPP. Do you know what much democratic MQM is? Why only blame PPP only? "}

Root,
I leave it to you to respond to Majumdar Bhai's questions in #66.
Suffice it to say that the events following BB's assassination, PPP workers, supporters, and goons have broken all records of collective hooliganism - only the Awami League of Mujib in 1971 comes close.

I talked to relatives in KHI and someone said that the destruction is so wanton that "we have regressed 20 years." I hope that is an exaggeration, but it shows how traumatized the victims have become.

If I were the Governement of Pakistan, I would jail all of these hooligans starting with Zardari on down and not release them until they have compensated everyone for their losses due to PPP's acts of looting, plunder, arson, and murder. Maybe the $1.5B can be requisitioned to pay off the victims. :(

{MQM Rally in Punjab: 17 April 2007
MQM WOULD HOLD ANOTHER LARGEST RALLY AGAINST RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM IN PUNJAB, DATE AND VENUE WOULD BE ANNOUNCED SOON PEOPLE OF PUNJAB TO PREPARE THEMSELVES FOR THE RALLY --- ALTAF HUSSAIN
Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) would hold the another big rally against “Kalashnikov and Baton Wielding Shariah and Religious Extremism” in the province of Punjab, date and venue would be announced soon. Mr Altaf Hussain, founder and leader of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) has appealed to the people of Punjab to prepare themselves to participate in this gathering in large number to protest against enforcement of the “Kalashnikov and Stave Wielding Shariah and Religious Extremism” }
{Altaf Hussain Condemned Police atrocities against lawyers: 12 March 2007
POLICE BRUTALITY IN LAHORE ON LAWYERS FRATERNITY IS INHUMAN, UNLAWFUL
AND DESERVES SEVERE CONDEMNATION- ALTAF HUSSAIN
Mr. Altaf Hussain, founder and leader of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) termed the police brutality inflicted on lawyers’ fraternity today in Lahore during a protest rally as inhuman, unlawful and that deserves severe condemnation}
... {MQM Celebrate HOLI At Nine Zero: 03 March 2007
MQM SUPPORTERS OF HINDU ORIGIN CELEBRATING THEIR RELIGIOUS FESTIVAL HOLI AT THE MQM HEAD OFFICE NINE ZERO IN KARACHI ALONG WITH THE MEMBER OF MQM COORDINATION COMMITTEE}
{Altaf Hussain: Samjhota Express 10 February 2007
Samjhota Express blasts toll rises to 67
BOMB ATTACK ON SAMJUAHTA EXPRESS IS A NAKED TERRORISM
AND COWARDLY ACT AS WELL AS A CONSPIRACY TO SABOTAGE ATMOSPHERE
OF FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN PAKISTAN AND INDIA -- ALTAF HUSSAIN}
{ Altaf Hussain: Terror Attacks: 29 January 2007
Altaf Hussain slams terror attacks, Daily Dawn
Muttahida Qaumi Movement chief Altaf Hussain has expressed grief over the loss of life in another suicide blast in Dera Ismail Khan and rocket attack on an Imambargah in Bannu district}
{ US Consulate General: MQM Women Wing Punjab 16 January 2007
Women Protection Act is a landmark in Pakistan’s history, says, Bryn Hunt, US Consulate General, Lahore
Address to a seminar on “women role in the development of society” organized by the women wing of MQM }
{Altaf Hussain: Organ Trade 08 January 2007
Altaf Hussain wants law to curb organ trade, Daily Dawn
KARACHI, Jan 7: Muttahida Qaumi Movement chief Altaf Hussain has expressed his deep concern over the trading in human organs, and urged President General Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz to get the menace curbed through legislation}
All news are dated from MQM website.

TAhmed. 83
As I said I am not MQM.
I will go by actions and words.
The list clearly demonstrate that MQM consists of people from all nationalities. How can I interpret it otherwise.
On my thought I have very clearly stated in the very beginning.
First we have not yet determined our direction as a nation.
Second local leaders and parties should take care of provincial politics.
Third for national decision making, not only political parties but all institutions of states should be involved.

krashid #92 the direction is clear for us as a nation - democracy and the rule of law. And the hurdle at this point is Musharraf and his ego.

Why do you say the direction is not clear? Scores of brave Pakistanis have given up their lives for this cause, with Benazir being only the latest martyr. Thousands of brave Pakistanis have faced armed polce for this cause. Hundreds have given up careers for this cause. If the direction is not clear to you, then perhaps you need to open your eyes to the reality of Pakistan. Instead of keeping them tightly closed, saying one thing ("I am not MQM") and doing another (plastering this board with the hollow MQM propaganda).

Sir TAhmed.
Democracy and rule of Law is very good.
1- In Lal Masjid and Hafsa people have announced Shariah Law and when Administration reacted a lot of Hoopla.
2- Army has ruled Pakistan for most of its years.
3- People in Northern areas Swat, Waziristan wants Shariah Law.
4- Baluch Liberation Army still believes in Seperate Baluchistan. And Army action there is not far off.
Democracy on the barrell of gun.
Second thing I am just refuting allegation on the basis of News . If you can give me more information, I might think again.
There is no question that there are not scores but millions of Martyrs for democracy in Pakistan. Before 1971 there were hundreds against Ayub Khan. Then in Bangladesh. Then ironically in Bhutto's time. During Zia era. And now.

Krashi1961,
...and not to mention the thousands of martyrs who gave their lives against the oppression, brutality, and corruption of BB and her 10% husband and the notorious bloodthirsty Minister of her Interior, Ghaleezloola BuRbuR.

Mr. Gill, Well done! I just read your article which is very aptly summed up and in a nutshell, that exactly is what ails democracy in Pakistan. How can we expect democracy from people and political parties who themselves operate in dynastic, corrupt and opportunistic ways? Unfortunately after having been dispossed for so long, people have lost real awareness, and even the so-called educated ones are coming up with abominable lame excuses for democratic lapses in political parties and their dynastic and dictatorial operation. Having said that, I must say also that the murder of BB was a sad sad event from the human as well as the national perspective, and the ensuing rampage of the vandals was just as sad. How unfortunate that a handful of people could hold 160 million people hostage for so many days!