Islam as a political weapon in Pakistan

Re: # 80 Thanks my dear .You seem to be the very few men here not having the bad disease of hoof and mouth.

#79 Posted by pavocavalry
“In the next ten years a long bloody war would be fought between the Islamists and the opportunist forces in Muslim world which have agaian and again used Islam as a cheap tool to drug the masses ! Now the Muslim common man cannot be fooled or amused by cheap slogans or beheadings of petty criminals !”

#78 Posted by pavocavalry
“The war in Wazisistan is the first sign of the earthquake ! Slowly the Pakistani ruling elite will compromise on everything ! The show started from Blair House in 1999 !”

Pavo,
You are nothing but a jihadi and a terrorist support Pavo. My first assessment of you was right on the money. You spin some leftist slogans and thesis and then come back to your support of Jihadi criminals.

Only some idiot in Pakistan would buy this nonsense and that’s why you get published in Nation. A jihad supporting newspaper. Some day we will find out how much ISI paid the Nizami family for keeping that rag Nation in circulation. Is Nwaewaqt still in circulation?

The war in waziristan? heheheh where did ya hear that nonsense.

Poor Masadi is a joke. He claims that Zulfikar Ali Bhutto "evolved" later. The quotes I produced were from 21st December 1976 and from his death cell.

On December 21, 1976, the then Prime Minister of Pakistan, late Mr. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto addressed a joint session of the National Assembly and Senate of the federation held to commemorate the centenary of birth of Quaid-e-Azam. Addressing Quaid-e-Azam's portrait hanging on the wall, he said in a most dramatic fashion: -

"Quaid-eAzam!

I know what arrows pierced your heart (during struggle for Pakistan). The British said you were arrogant. This was understandable, because you had refused to bow before them. The Congress leaders and their henchmen called you stubborn. That too was to be expected, because they had failed to trick you. What is not understandable, and what must have certainly bewildered and distressed you is, that the nation, for whose sake you were putting up with all this, was in forefront of your tormentors!"

(ZAB was clearly abusing Maududis and Masadis of the time)

Then he went on to give details of what people from one province or the other had done against the Quaid-e-Azam. After this detail, he remarked about the irony that the Maulvis and Maulanas had also pounced upon him. He followed with an observation that among his critics, a certain person, although saying things similar to others, couched them in a comparatively fancy language. Then he started quoting in English, excerpts from the book by Mr. Maudoodi titled "Muslims and the Present Political Turmoil" Volume 3. He quoted so extensively, that the text covered two columns and a half of Pakistan Times of December 23, 1976.


and from his death cell to Benazir Bhutto

"With the exception of your father, the Quaid-e-Azam and perhaps Suhrawardy either charlatans or captains have run this country. Perhaps things will change with a struggle spearheaded by the militant youth. If things do not change, there will be nothing left to change. Either power must pass to the people or everything will perish."

Now I don't believe in life after death and so I cannot comment on any perceived connections that Mr. Masadi might have but Mr. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto as he existed till April 4th 1979 was a die hard fan of Quaid-e-Azam Mahomed Ali Jinnah.

Unfortunately Bhutto was not always as selfless and incorruptible as Jinnah ... and did not have the integrity and courage that Jinnah possessed. Still there is no denying that Bhutto tried to associate himself with Jinnah (starting with his claim from his death cell that he had been part of Jinnah's civil disobedience movement in Bombay in 1946 to achieve Pakistan).

Furthermore... as someone whose family has been part of the PPP for more than 30 years... and as the son of the man who personally knew Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and discussed many things with him ... I can safely say that Bhutto would have had a fool like Masadi roasted alive.

Re: # 83 really assorted rubbish.keep it up.

Re: # 82 i think u r the guy pavocavalry refers to for having a bad hoof and mouth disease.

Is this Luqman fellow another clone of Masadi?

Gentlemen,

Pavo or Major Amin is the true example of the Jihadi, Army officers and the terrorist nexus that has brought misery to Pakistan. These are the folks who, when in the army find a way to support the Jihadi network and when out of the army openly advocate a Jihadi war against the world.

That is why I believe that only blaming the army generals for what is happening in Pakistan is not good enough; ALL army officers including the junior officers should be examined about their role in Jihadi support as they too are willing accomplice of the army Generals. The dismemberment of the current army structure in Pakistan and reorientation, and reeducation of all the army officers is a must.

These generals want the US to believe that if they are removed from the scene, the Jihadi would take over the nukes. That’s a bogus claim as long as the Pak army is in charge of the nukes in Pakistan, those nukes are in Jihadi hands!

Re: # 59

Masadi mian,

You don't have any claims. You have no facts. You've proved nothing.

In short you are a lie and fraud.

Monto,

Luqman is just another nick for Pavo....

He always comes in two. I caught one tigram and I guess this luqman guy would soon disappear too.

Re: # 86 u r clone of salman rushdie . i think i met you at hashmis house.just kidding.i enjoy my booze and am an athiest.

Re: # 89 HP Khwaja u r obsessed with pavo.u should consult a psychiatrist.

Re: # 89 bhai tooo nay daroo pee hai , the great Attorney at Law is Manto not Monto.I know him from lahore.

Obsessed with Pavo!
I am obsessed with jihadis and their supporters like Pavo and perhaps you too if you are different than Pavo.

Isn't it incredible that you guys always show up together? First Pavo and then within minutes either you or Tigram!

Plenty of Daroo drinkers are jihadi supporters. Jihadi are not fighting some war against Daroo! Pretty much all Jihadi in frontier are Charasi, heroinichi, and crack heads!

i read a french terrorism experts interview and he said that many jihadis booze.why this contradiction

Apparently saying that Bhutto drank is "ad hominem" attack on him. Bhutto drank and he admitted it on several occasions.

Apparently according to Masadi ... Bhutto was a bearded imama wearing follower of Maulana Maududi and not the immaculately dressed compolitan follower of Mahomed Ali Jinnah.

Such revisionism is quite common. After all the Mullahs (who sided with Congress and called Jinnah kafiriazam through out his life) have been trying to paint a beard on Jinnah after putting him in a rather blue colored sherwani (which he never wore) first.

95 is an appendix to 83.