Pakistan After The Assassination: Interview with Pervez Hoodbhoy

urstruly --thanks. sorry to hear about your father too. inna lillaha wa inna ilayhi raji'un. it is interesting how such a tragedy tends to at first challenge, then confirm, one's imaan.

tahmed. thanks for the condolences. yeh, the politicised mullah extremos are the biggest threat to pak.

most ppl also thought that the PML (Q) was behind the dastardly murder of BB...
may she rest in peace.

Re: # 31

Massaddi Mian:

"...I don't belong to a family of petty bourgeoisie like you do... "

Now can you please shine more light on it, before you throw garbage on your elites?

Re: # 29

Massaddi Mian:

Aap ke dimag ki paidawar ke kuch namoone mein pesh karta houn.

Seriously your brain is crying, get a brain transplant.

"...Once again SC is historically confused.

The guy is just as ignorant as the average hill billy living like a cockroach in the gutter..

The guy is a total ignoramus.

The guy is not only an ignoramus he is a third rate swine…

A PhD that cannot write worth a fart…

Get a life fool and spare us your fundamentalism,…

You don't know shit about me so better keep your goddamned mouth shut. I don't belong to a family of petty bourgeoisie like you do... "

Quite disturbing to read that one of our greatest minds is now indulging in fear mongering on a vast scale. I am not saying what he has mentioned could not come about, but he speaks as if he is aware of so many inside secrets that he can lend credence to his accusations. Disturbing!

The real chamchas are adding their support to this nonsense article. The guy is a total ignoramus. He claims the Islamists have overtaken pakistan because in the 1980s prayers in offices were made compulsary (that is the break for them was people could skip out if they wanted). Does that describe institutional power in a country? Of course not, the Islamists have little to no power except as nuisance, they are used and abused by the real powers that be. Regarding Benazir, he concentrates on the person and not the political setup in which civilian politicians have to operate, under the shadown of the military gun, in Pakistan. He ignores the strides made by the ZAB towards a people's democracy by using slogans like "feudals" and "serfs", about which he has no clue actually, he just threw that out for good measure, and then he makes totally mainstream banal excuses at fearmongering for Pakistan's nuclear weapons. He is infact acting as a proponent of the US/Pakistan Army status quo by inflating the "Islamist threat" which actually feeds the war on terror and the grip of the Pakistan Army and US imperial agenda in Pakistan. The guy is not only an ignoramus he is a third rate swine- and I hope he reads this comment.

naqsh: inna lillah e wa inna illah e rajeoon.....

ph's analysis of benazir is quite correct.....the remaining, as usual, is in the right direction, but overly exagerated due to his political agenda.....

Mann, this guy always manages to wind me up !

Firstly he is only one of the very few capable scientists we have and he wastes time on writing naive political articles.

He mentions shooting the foot a couple of times and does extremely well with another shot in Pakistans foot by implying it has become a Taliban state.

I dont think he reads these interacts but he should because his opinions are even disliked by chowkis who can usually make sense of any junk that is printed here.

I once saw him on a debtate against Mushahid Hussain about the Nuclear issue and although I am no fan of Mushahid but during the programme Mushahid bulldozed him as PH lives in some Utopian world.

All I can request to PH is to please concentrate on what you do best. Frankly I became interested in Physics after watching your programme on PTV long long ago. Please continue with that and make some positive contributions.

regards,

I saw the latest video clip of Benazir Bhutto speaking in her last political rally. Her swinging arms to emphasisze a point to the cheering crowd, her booming voice etc. were simply reminders of Zulficar Ali Bhutto. - a classical demogogue. It is true she spent years in jail for democracy and a certain side of idealism. But the fact remains that she had compartallized her inner personalities. -one for the poor and other for the rich.10 years in a comfortable mansion in UAE is a far cry ofa life in Karachi slum!

She reminds me of Princess Diana! who went around hugging HIV babies and mine-clearing campaigns bet ween 10AM and 5PM. Then flew back and stayed in 5 star hotels having French dinners, Champagne and high flying company.!!


Kamath

Naqsh,
My condolences.
RIP

Naqshbandi

inaa lillahe wa inna elaihe rajoon - Please accept my heartfelt condolences on your great loss. May Allah give, the deceases a righteous place in heaven and give courage and patience to the survivors to overcome this loss.

I think Tolstoy once said that a boy only becomes a man when he loses his father. I lost my dad about 11 months ago and to this day my heart yearns for his love that he accorded to me when I was a little boy. I think a little boy inside of us never becomes a man.

Re: # 20
He is here to spam boards

typical mohajir thinking .no doubt he is bombay gujrat type of guys who are settled in karachi.

Pervez Hoodbhoy ** You have a reputation for thinking that you are better than anyone. Very shallow thoughts you have.Typically Gujrati from the ismailia sect

#19 you end your lengthy letter by saying: "I hope to have an audience with the President on phone or in person to apprise him of the situation and the actions he must take immediately."

So this is what this is all about - your seeking and audience with musharraf. you are just another bloody chamcha!!

While I understand your pain, perhaps this will enlighten you on the REAL ROOTS of our troubles.

Love and peace.

Imran

Brig Tariq Jilani
Director, ISPR
Rawalpindi, Pakistan
Fax +9251 9271603

Subject: Telecon / Meeting with General [R] Pervez Musharaf

Dear Brig Jilani

You and the ISPR are well aware of my efforts to save and grow Pakistan vide seminars held for MNAs and politicians in 2006 and publicly available online at www.ahappyworld.info

Background
My efforts to stop smuggling of cell phones in Pakistan have yielded the country USD 1 bn vide CBRs SRO 391 in June 2001 supported by Mr Shaukat Aziz (who happens to be from the same IBA that taught me one thing “DISCIPLINE”), Dr Atta Ur Rehman, General [R] Khalid Basheer and the former Chairmen of CBR, Mr Riaz Malik and Mr Riaz Naqvi. I never asked the Government for even an acknowledgment of my efforts, while it is true that my focus on “governmental” affairs from 1999-2001 did cost me my job as my boss gave a damn to what the Government of Pakistan gained, he didn’t gain much during this time anyway, I survived and am Alhamdolillah, after 7 years back to the level I deserved as Regional Director for a European multinational covering 20 countries in GCC/MENA. All this time I silently continued my efforts to change the country’s policies to enhance foreign investments and law and order.

Past communication with the President (General Musharaf)
Back in June 2001 I wrote a letter to General Musharaf, then CE of Pakistan. To my surprise not only was my communication acknowledged I was invited by a Colonel Kamran Dy MS to CE to visit the “CE” house, now the President house, behind the Secretariat, where we had an in depth discussion. The core idea I proposed was to involve the Army in re establishing law and order in Pakistan besides many other ideas that are on record at the President House. Col Kamran informed me that this idea was discussed by the Core Commanders and in view of foreign pressure (remember this is pre 9/11) we couldn’t do that, moreover the Army’s role is limited to:

1. Give an “injection” to civil institutions
2. Exit once they are “fixed”

I disagreed with Col Kamran on this strategy and openly told him that not only is this incorrect, it will never happen, and when your core commanders DO realize this is wrong CHANGE the strategy. I WISH I was wrong then though time has proved me right.

Current Situation

Law and order
7 years down the road, corruption is rampant in Pakistan-the law and order system is NON EXISTENT, the Judges we have, never gave justice to the poor, the police is an exploited arm of the politicians and administration. Bottom line our PRESIDENT himself does NOT trust this system, hence his demolition of the judiciary, Benazir died due this gap, the PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN ARE FED UP WITH THIS LAWLESS STATE THAT YOU CALL “PAKISTAN” they are dying or moving out of the country, they face inflation beyond logic and have to fight to survive at all levels. YET I SALUTE PAKISTANIS living in Pakistan for their persistence.

Foreign relations/Media
From Tasleema Naseem, Brig Cheema and so many other jokers who played havoc with our image, not to mention the obvious: THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS DEAD AGAINST GENERAL MUSHARAF for their reasons (watch Syriana and JFK to get a better idea strategic and tactical actions in the region and priorities) – the recent press conference Gen Musharaf had, was he not able to grasp the animosity and bitterness in the questions? Who was funding GEO? Or the others, one must be stupid with a capital “S” to say “PPP or Nawaz” – there’s a lot more, and deeper into it as described above. Moreover, the TERRORISM card has been way too overplayed by Gen Musharaf and foreign powers have NO FAITH IN HIS ABILITY TO TACKLE THAT ISSUE. In my view they are partly correct in this regard as I will explain in the “WHAT MUST BE DONE” section later

STATUS QUO: What is going to happen STEP BY STEP
1. IF General Musharaf survives assassination, he is 95% sure, by my book, to be deposed as President in a timeframe of within 180 days from now.
2. Interim government will hold polls in 90 days. Nawaz Sharif will be allowed to contest.
3. Elected “LOOTERS” from any party will take office, PPP or PML (N)
4. Phase “x” of corruption, lawlessness and malpractices will re-start in Pakistan, that was “controlled” to some extent in Musharaf era
5. The country will slide to oblivion
6. NO OTHER ARMY GENERAL WILL HAVE THE GUTS TO ENTER POLITICS ONCE MUSHARAF EXITS BY FORCE OR BY CHOICE.
7. The fate of the people of Pakistan (except “party” workers) will be sealed: SIMPLE, LEAVE PAKISTAN IF YOU WANT TO SURVIVE

WHAT MUST BE DONE IMMEDIATELY BY GENERAL MUSHARAF

Put law and order on track
1. Realize and accept that the Army has TWO ROLES:
a. External defense: that you already excel in
b. Internal defense: that is currently with the “police” and “judiciary”
i. As the QURAN says Al RASHI WAL MURTASHI FI NARE JAHANAM i.e. Bribe giver and taker goes to HELL. YOU CANNOT CHANGE OR REFORM THEM (your judges and policemen). PERIOD. You triple their salaries they will STILL be corrupt and abuse powers.
ii. We need a SHORT TERM ALTERNATE SYSTEM during which time we refresh the force and judiciary
iii. This task can ONLY be done by either enforcing APC (Army Penal Code) via serving or RETIRED army personnel
iv. The benefits are obvious, the ARMY is the ONLY institution in the country which follows its CHAIN OF COMMAND DITTO, and there is LEAST corruption in the army compared to the rest (excluding supplies and all, that too at senior levels)
v. Look at the retired sepoys from the Army, they work as private sector SECURITY GUARDS for Rs 3200 per month WITHOUT CORRUPTION, their tummies are intact, they come to duty in ironed uniform ON TIME, they do NOT abuse authority, they FOLLOW their management.
vi. Reality is 80% of EX ARMY PERSONNEL ARE MIS FITS IN PAKISTAN, they don’t belong in this corrupt environment from the disciplined environment they came from. LET THEM ENFORCE LAW AND ORDER IN THE SHORT RUN LATER RECRUIT PEOPLE FROM CIVIL LIFE ON THE SAME PATTERN AS ARMY DOES
vii. Get army judges, QUICKLY modify APC to adjust to LAW NEEDS OF TODAY, REMEMBER our lawyers and judges are following antiquated systems and processes that the BRITISH used to RULE OVER SLAVES (Contract Act of 1872 and Companies Ordinance of 1935 renamed o 1984). Our intellectual think tanks can study models of excellence in Dubai and elsewhere and change laws to deliver SPEEDY JUSTICE
viii. Free the innocent inmates in jail cells, picked up for personal animosity or plainly a woman raped and held for Hudood! Raped further by policemen, poor serfs of landlords and mafia rotting away for no crime, even CHILDREN!
ix. DIVIDE ARMY INTO TWO PARTS, EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL, both report to COAS as of now.
x. General Musharaf: YOU CANNOT SHOW YOUR FACE IN THE OTHER WORLD IF YOU DENY YOUR PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED YOU FOR 9 YEARS NOT EVEN THE BASIC RIGHT OF LAW AND JUSTICE AS OUTLINED ABOVE

Put “Extremism” back on track

I do NOT blame the “WEST” Uncle “Bush” and Uncle “Brown/Blair” for their mistaken policies to handle terrorism, they DON’T UNDERSTAND ISLAM or how this WAR is working internally, YOU DO AT LEAST, why don’t you educate them that:
1. This is an IDEOLOGICAL war waged on the free world by Al Qaeda etc you CANNOT defeat it with cannons, for every 1 person you shoot, 10 more will be born, and INCREASINGLY from the educated class, not just the “Taliban”. CASE IN POINT, London bombing was done by INDIAN DOCTORS that UK cannot reconcile with until now (how come people born and bred and working in UK became “terrorists”?).
2. TO FIGHT THIS WAR, download and read my action plan on www.ahappyworld.info
3. Simply stated:
a. WE MUST IMMEDIATELY STOP THE FIGHT BY FORCE
b. We must get IMAM E KAABA and relevant religious icons to VISIT these areas and go live on air spreading REAL message of Islam of love and peace, General Musharaf doing it is not credible or enough we need role models these people believe in
c. Tell America and Europe straight “WAR ON TERROR IS A WAR ON IDEOLOGY OF MISUNDERSTOOD ISLAM, IT CANNOT BE FOUGHT OR WON BY FORCE AS OF RIGHT NOW” at they same time tell the Western media to START HIGHLIGHTING GOOD THINGS AND PRACTICES IN ISLAM that will soothe the pain on BOTH sides.
4. General Musharaf: You need to get HANDS ON to solve these problems, saying “GOVT IS DOING THIS AND THAT FOR A REASON” WITHOUT GOING INTO DEPTH AND SOLVING IT (like you told foreign journalists when they asked why they cant go to rural areas AFTER you INSTRUCTED them to “GO TO RURAL AREAS TO FIND WHAT PAKISTANIS THINK”, Sir! YOU MUST INVOLVE YOURSELF IN INTERNAL AFFAIRS BEYOND THE OBVIOUS.
5. Islam’s message is of peace and love, OPEN PAKISTAN’S BORDERS to EVERYONE, just charge a HEFTY VISA FEE
a. USD 1000 to visit Pakistan
b. USD 50000 to become a permanent resident of Pakistan
6. ACCEPT ISRAEL, all the Muslim TALK Pakistanis talk about is CRAP. Give visas to Jews and Christians. THAT IS THE WAY TO FIGHT INTERNAL TERRORISM tell your people loud and clear that Islam propagates the message of love, we are LUCKY to be born Muslims hence our SYMPATHIES with NON MUSLIMS who DON’T KNOW THE REAL MESSAGE and through our CONDUCT, LOVE and GOOD BEHAVIOUR alone can we influence them.

I hope to have an audience with the President on phone or in person to apprise him of the situation and the actions he must take immediately.

Pakistan Zindabad!

Regards


Imran Owais Kazmi
Chief Thinking Officer, Strategy2Action

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Ras #11 I am not sure where you find Dr. Hoodbhoy out of his element. Care to explain?