Chowk January 6, 2008
#97 Posted by anil on January 10, 2008 11:42:13 am
Re: # 95
Massaddi Mian:
"..I can see that Anil like a vulture descended to attack me as well without even checking the site URL..."
First of all let me apologize for my wrong indiscretion.
My frustration with you is that you have a wonderful mind that I truly admire. Although I absolutely disagree with the absues you hurl.
You and I will always disagree, but that is not a reason for me to misuse my discretion.
Nothwithstanding, more disagreements that shall follow, I apologize and thank you also for writing this decently.
Hope you will accept my apology.
Massaddi Mian:
"..I can see that Anil like a vulture descended to attack me as well without even checking the site URL..."
First of all let me apologize for my wrong indiscretion.
My frustration with you is that you have a wonderful mind that I truly admire. Although I absolutely disagree with the absues you hurl.
You and I will always disagree, but that is not a reason for me to misuse my discretion.
Nothwithstanding, more disagreements that shall follow, I apologize and thank you also for writing this decently.
Hope you will accept my apology.
#96 Posted by mohar11 on January 10, 2008 11:10:41 am
Re: # 93
Uh-oh... that should hurt nasah big time... somebody pointed out atrocities muslims committed on other people...
How can you do that? Are you a hate monger ?...
Uh-oh... that should hurt nasah big time... somebody pointed out atrocities muslims committed on other people...
How can you do that? Are you a hate monger ?...
#95 Posted by masadi on January 10, 2008 11:09:34 am
Maj sahib thanks for posting that from me. People here think that just because they can throw a URL out that means something. Like little children that play with crayons they go for the pie charts and then make big claims. The graphs on that site clearly reveal in the figure totals that the US accounts for over 60% of world military spending, which means that the US spends more than the rest of the world combined. I can see that Anil like a vulture descended to attack me as well without even checking the site URL. In the end these people prove themselves to be what I cannot write here or will get banned again... On the other end my request to HP to post the correction was ignored by him which was quite disappointing. So now, we can no longer say "long live the HP,masadi friendship for social justice" when even this small request was twice unfulfilled by him...
#93 Posted by arjun_4 on January 10, 2008 10:01:49 am
#80 Posted by nasah on January 9, 2008 8:10:40 pm
How do you know khalid hassan's muslim ancestors didn't kill the sikh guru and his sons?
p.s. I see you're ducking from benazir's "Jag-Jag Mo-Mo Han Han" speech...
typical...
How do you know khalid hassan's muslim ancestors didn't kill the sikh guru and his sons?
p.s. I see you're ducking from benazir's "Jag-Jag Mo-Mo Han Han" speech...
typical...
#92 Posted by rf786 on January 10, 2008 9:26:33 am
Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy is a loner in a sea of religious self-righteousness.
State of Pakistan has successfully indoctrinated its nation, secularism is now regarded as anti-religion, anti-state leaving no room for argument or debate.
State of Pakistan has successfully indoctrinated its nation, secularism is now regarded as anti-religion, anti-state leaving no room for argument or debate.
#91 Posted by jang on January 10, 2008 9:01:19 am
the entire pakistani nation supported the kashmir (and afgan) jihad, when it comes to pay-up, the dishonest are doing the blame-game. shame on you.
#90 Posted by mohar11 on January 10, 2008 5:46:35 am
In fact - it so happened that - instead of "jag-jag mo-mo han-han", it became "Ben-Ben Zir-Zir Bhut-Bhut"...
The lady fell into the ditch she dug for the others...
The lady fell into the ditch she dug for the others...
#89 Posted by mohar11 on January 10, 2008 5:33:33 am
To quote the Uber-Idiot, goes by name HP: "It was her misfortune that Taliban thing happened when she was the PM"...
Ha ha... it was her "misfortune", she was just an innocent by-stander... So why didn't she resign in protest and go back to the people, expose the army - if she felt what army was doing was wrong?... she was supposed to be the brave courageous person...
And what about public threat to kill others?.... oh that's just talk, ISI just wanted her to talk that way... it was yet another "misfortune"....
Pakis and their stupidity, never ends... :)
Ha ha... it was her "misfortune", she was just an innocent by-stander... So why didn't she resign in protest and go back to the people, expose the army - if she felt what army was doing was wrong?... she was supposed to be the brave courageous person...
And what about public threat to kill others?.... oh that's just talk, ISI just wanted her to talk that way... it was yet another "misfortune"....
Pakis and their stupidity, never ends... :)
#88 Posted by mohar11 on January 10, 2008 5:11:15 am
Ha ha - paki's latest excuse, BB didn't sponsor jihad because she had no control... she was the Prime Minsiter, but no sir, she had no control... it was all Army and ISI...
Actually, come to think of it, it's not even ISI, it was the mujahideen, allah's soldiers who dropped from the sky to fight for him and his chosen children... no paki has ever had anything to do with it...
Even though - BB openly threatened to kill the leader of another country if that person everu visits pakistani territory... no sir, that has nothing to do with her passion of jihad and islamic violence...
:)
Actually, come to think of it, it's not even ISI, it was the mujahideen, allah's soldiers who dropped from the sky to fight for him and his chosen children... no paki has ever had anything to do with it...
Even though - BB openly threatened to kill the leader of another country if that person everu visits pakistani territory... no sir, that has nothing to do with her passion of jihad and islamic violence...
:)
#87 Posted by mohar11 on January 10, 2008 5:01:33 am
Re: # 74 kamath
It sounds insensitive, but it's the truth...
Besides, some people deserve sympathy, some don't... I have no sympathy for crop of paki "leaders" who have, over the years taken their country down the wrong path to further their own agenda - in the process have created havoc for everybody in the region...
BB is no martyr... as far as I can see - she was the jihadi princess who had a change of heart only because US wanted it so... forget about her,alright...
It sounds insensitive, but it's the truth...
Besides, some people deserve sympathy, some don't... I have no sympathy for crop of paki "leaders" who have, over the years taken their country down the wrong path to further their own agenda - in the process have created havoc for everybody in the region...
BB is no martyr... as far as I can see - she was the jihadi princess who had a change of heart only because US wanted it so... forget about her,alright...
#86 Posted by HP on January 9, 2008 10:53:39 pm
Here is for you anil maybe now you will feel better. You are an idiot!
Your indianness and hindu chauvinism just shows up in every single post. You are very quick to pick on Pakistani posters but Indian poster are all pristine in your eyes. I have never seen you abusing Indian posters, but you see a Pakistani poster and your hindutva and all that pent up hatred comes out right away. You are full of hate and there is nothing more hateful than a person who just thrives on hate such as yourself.
Get lost.
When I put the heat on you, you will be running around like a crazy bum that you are.
Apni izzat apnay hath. Wanna pursue me? Idiot!
Remeber this post?
"#69 Posted by MantoLives on September 16, 2007 2:54:33 pm
#68
"Leave Muslim-Indian alone"
Why why aren't we being all fiesty because something contradicted your lack of knowledge. A similar suggestion can be made to you anil: Leave this to us and concern yourself with Indians only. You may exit this board at any time. "
You may exit this board ahole!
Your indianness and hindu chauvinism just shows up in every single post. You are very quick to pick on Pakistani posters but Indian poster are all pristine in your eyes. I have never seen you abusing Indian posters, but you see a Pakistani poster and your hindutva and all that pent up hatred comes out right away. You are full of hate and there is nothing more hateful than a person who just thrives on hate such as yourself.
Get lost.
When I put the heat on you, you will be running around like a crazy bum that you are.
Apni izzat apnay hath. Wanna pursue me? Idiot!
Remeber this post?
"#69 Posted by MantoLives on September 16, 2007 2:54:33 pm
#68
"Leave Muslim-Indian alone"
Why why aren't we being all fiesty because something contradicted your lack of knowledge. A similar suggestion can be made to you anil: Leave this to us and concern yourself with Indians only. You may exit this board at any time. "
You may exit this board ahole!
#85 Posted by anil on January 9, 2008 10:05:34 pm
Re: # 83
HP Mian:
"..That schootia Dalrmple wrote that Benazir supported Taliban. It was her misfortune that Taliban thing happened when she was the PM but really can some one ask that idiot how much control she had on that event? ..."
Just as much as any other Pakistani leader had.
Only if you can get this and its consequences in your thinking, you would not relying on distorted words like "Schootia", and abusive words like "idiots".
Then may be when you use these project your are looking at yourself in the mirror, and analyze upon analyze.
Ya phir, laanat ki maar, mazboori bhi ho sakti hai.
HP Mian:
"..That schootia Dalrmple wrote that Benazir supported Taliban. It was her misfortune that Taliban thing happened when she was the PM but really can some one ask that idiot how much control she had on that event? ..."
Just as much as any other Pakistani leader had.
Only if you can get this and its consequences in your thinking, you would not relying on distorted words like "Schootia", and abusive words like "idiots".
Then may be when you use these project your are looking at yourself in the mirror, and analyze upon analyze.
Ya phir, laanat ki maar, mazboori bhi ho sakti hai.
#84 Posted by HP on January 9, 2008 10:00:50 pm
Money makes people talk and a shallow historian like Dalrymple just talk more and get some space in some major papers because they are connected with the right people.
Should read as:
Money makes people talk and shallow historians like Dalrymple just talk more and get some space in some major papers because they are connected with the right people.
Should read as:
Money makes people talk and shallow historians like Dalrymple just talk more and get some space in some major papers because they are connected with the right people.
#83 Posted by HP on January 9, 2008 9:57:21 pm
nasah Sahib,
You are writing some gems these days. Hoo zoore qalam aur ziyada!
That schootia Dalrmple wrote that Benazir supported Taliban. It was her misfortune that Taliban thing happened when she was the PM but really can some one ask that idiot how much control she had on that event? Pakistan army controlled the afghan issue from the very beginning and Gen.Narsrulah Babar was involved with that issue since 1977 when he was still in the army.
As you mentioned, she was not even allowed to visit nuke facilities which lots of minions are allowed to visit including the FM of Saudi Arabia. But the army would not allow both civilian PMs of Pakistan to visit those facilities. That foul mouth, money grabber AQ Khan had better security clearance than both civilian PMs.
So this army lover Dalrymple instead of jumping on the Pak army for creating and supporting the Taliban, drops all common sense and dumps the whole taliban and their beards on her dead body.
As you said we have some slave Indians that are happy to paste his article as if he is the last word on the Pakistan affairs.
Just a few months ago some of Dalrymple's articles were published on Chowk and these same idiots were writing multiple posts about his impressions of Pakistan.
Money makes people talk and a shallow historian like Dalrymple just talk more and get some space in some major papers because they are connected with the right people.
There are better writers in both Pakistan and India with tons of experienced and knowledge about the world affairs but have you ever seen any Indian posting an article from an Indian writer? These sons and grandsons of the slaves just can't shake off the slavery from their lives.
You are writing some gems these days. Hoo zoore qalam aur ziyada!
That schootia Dalrmple wrote that Benazir supported Taliban. It was her misfortune that Taliban thing happened when she was the PM but really can some one ask that idiot how much control she had on that event? Pakistan army controlled the afghan issue from the very beginning and Gen.Narsrulah Babar was involved with that issue since 1977 when he was still in the army.
As you mentioned, she was not even allowed to visit nuke facilities which lots of minions are allowed to visit including the FM of Saudi Arabia. But the army would not allow both civilian PMs of Pakistan to visit those facilities. That foul mouth, money grabber AQ Khan had better security clearance than both civilian PMs.
So this army lover Dalrymple instead of jumping on the Pak army for creating and supporting the Taliban, drops all common sense and dumps the whole taliban and their beards on her dead body.
As you said we have some slave Indians that are happy to paste his article as if he is the last word on the Pakistan affairs.
Just a few months ago some of Dalrymple's articles were published on Chowk and these same idiots were writing multiple posts about his impressions of Pakistan.
Money makes people talk and a shallow historian like Dalrymple just talk more and get some space in some major papers because they are connected with the right people.
There are better writers in both Pakistan and India with tons of experienced and knowledge about the world affairs but have you ever seen any Indian posting an article from an Indian writer? These sons and grandsons of the slaves just can't shake off the slavery from their lives.
#82 Posted by tahmed32 on January 9, 2008 8:33:30 pm
Ras: Thanks for posting that excellent piece from Khalid Hasan. Having once attended a meeting with Benazir in the late 1990's, I can vouch that she did demonstrate the grace under pressure that is the very definition of courage to which the article refers. She walked into the meeting by herself (apologizing like a teenager for being late), and faced basically a sceptical and hostile group and responded to even the harshest of criticisms ("what will you do differently in the third term that you did not do in the first two terms?", "We all looked to you and you failed us", "If you care about poor people why do you own that expensive diamond necklace?") in a remarkably calm and congenial manner (losing her cool just a bit when someone questioned her sincerity towards the poor).
Benazir has proved her detractors wrong - she could have lived like the rich Pakistani expats in the west. Instead, she risked - and gave up - her life for Pakistan. She will forever be the Daughter of Pakistan. Beloved by all true Pakistanis.
Benazir has proved her detractors wrong - she could have lived like the rich Pakistani expats in the west. Instead, she risked - and gave up - her life for Pakistan. She will forever be the Daughter of Pakistan. Beloved by all true Pakistanis.
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