Pakistan's Flawed and Feudal Princess

#201

Zardari is not a Bhutto and Amin Fahim is not a Bhutto.Raza Rabbani is not a Bhutto and Aitzaz Ahsan is not a Bhutto. They are the new leaders of the Party.

The Bhutto days of the party are over despite some desperate attempts Zardari.

Re: # 199

HP Sahib,

PPP has many important financiers, Ishtiaq Baig is just one of them. As for the hierarchy, is he a Bhutto? If not, then he is nothing.

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"This Ishtiaq Baig is a newbie wannabe, he has no standing in PPP or politics for that matter. "

You need to see how the message is sent out through Jang. The Baigs are important financiers of the PPP. I guess you don't know where they are in the PPP hierarchy!

Re: # 194

Urstruly Sahib,

There is a famous saying in Urdu "Jub geedar ke moth aathee hai tho sheher ke thuraf bhagtha hai" Last I heard most of the bhagora huwayoon brigade was headed towards the cities. And what happened to these valiant soldiers in Swat? Did they not get their ass whipped and handed on a platter? Mind you, posting threats on internet websites is a crime punishable by internment in Gitmo bay. Having said that,take this as a friendly advise, until now it was the Pakistan army responsible for controlling the situation. These were the good guys. Fear the day when rest of the world decides enough is enough and they bomb all huwayoon into oblivion.

"This m/f dictator had the galls to call Chief Justice a terrorsit symapthizer. So now there you have it. Suck it up. Now situation has come to a point where name calling has lost its meaning. The schism in the society has erased all the gray areas."

I can agree with this part. The schism is deep and so is the distrust. All these elements would lead to disastrous confrontation between the people and the army. And at this time I look forward to it.
I have said it all along that without the participation of the people from the smaller provinces, Pakistan will never see democracy. I see that people from the smaller provinces are coming together on issues. Even a majority of Punjabis are gaining awareness that it is the army that is the problem; like the people from Sindh and Balochistan always believed.

Though there are some serious issues of Pakistan integrity still unresolved. The new political leadership, if at all emerges at the national level, would have to make new commitment with the people and show the kind of resistance that Pakistani have never seen in the past form the civilian politicians.
Pakistan needs Aitzaz Ahsan to be in Sindh.

People zeemax (for now) has a point here zihadi's have nothing to gain from whacking bb, a compromise would have been made easily. I don't think its my boy mushy either...

Re: # 192

Yaar Zeemax payaan,

This Ishtiaq Baig is a newbie wannabe, he has no standing in PPP or politics for that matter. He is only good in taking photographs, his real profession.

Re: # 186

"But we have Pakistan which consists of these 2% kanjars, and there are intermarriages, and relationships."

This is the saddest part. When time was on their side these 2% kanjars used to refer to us as "inn haramzadon ko ziada munh nahin lagana chahiyaya....". And now tides have turned.

MOst of the kanjars in their arrogance still think that all that that is happening in Pakistan is reversible and things will go back to "normal" just as they kill each and everyone of the citizens of Pakistan who has ever raised a voice. They are so sadly mistaken.

Re: # 182

{Despite 100% support from West and US people of Pakistan have made "monkeys" out of them.}

Urstruly,

Why bring Andrew Symonds into this discussion? Another racist attack on another minority.

Zeemax post #1 and others.

The idea that the US is somehow involved in the BB assassination is floated by the PPP itself. Please read this article by Ishtiaq Baig, a Karachi Industrialist, Benazir confidant and PPP financier besides being a Senator. He opines that Benazir came to Pakistan under a US sponsored deal to turn the army government in to a civilian government. He implies that she was guaranteed safety by the US government. Read the article it is interesting. He wrote about many other things too.
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jan2008-daily/10-01-2008/col5.htm

It appears that when BB saw the ground situation and realized that she would not be able to work with the Army, she lost her value to the US. Then people close to the army assassinated her and the US turned a blind eye.

My idea is that since the US after BB has no clear choice to team up with Musharaf to make this army regime look like a civilian regime, US has no interest in elections in Pakistan anymore. So the elections are now an exercise in futility and possibly would not happen. Or if they do, Qatal league again would emerge winners. No matter how mysterious those results may appear, the US would accept the election results.

PPP is going through its own crisis now. Asif Zardari, Amin Fahinm and a few leaders from Punjab still want to work with the army but they have serious resistance in the rank and file that is supporting the hardliners such as Raza Rabbani and his Sindhi supporters.

Tahmed,

The US is the main financier and supplier of the arms for Pakistan. So the US has a deep imprint on many things that happen in Pakistan. Ignoring the reality that US has considerable influence in Pakistan is not the right thing.

Any issue in Pakistan that deals with the Army, economy or the WOT would have US hand behind lots of policy moves.

Re: # 189

"How many lawyers are Jihadi, how many PPP workers are jihadi and how many laborers are jihadi?"

Good questions. But one mustr also ask how they are being trated by the najaiz aulaad of East India Company. They are being treated as none other but terrorists as well. This m/f dictator had the galls to call Chief Justice a terrorsit symapthizer. So now there you have it. Suck it up. Now situation has come to a point where name calling has lost its meaning. The schism in the society has erased all the gray areas.

Re: # 187 zeena

It is not just the fouj, but Pakistani quom is also guilty of a horrendous crime i.e. keeping quiet when school children were being mercilessly massacred. The law of nature is very simple, when you do not look after others kids , no one will look after your kids eithter. What really adds to the inhumanity of the crime is that most of those massacred in Islamabad were yateem kids. Our religion even frowns upon as simple a thing as just shoving a yateem; but we crossed all limits and murdered them. No one stood up for those innocent kids, and now no kid in Pakistan is safe.

"crying hoarse at the time of the Jamia Hafsa siege that if there's violence here, Pakistan will blow up."

I find it ridiculous to believe that a suicide bomber a week agenda will blow up Pakistan. That are acts of desperate people if they are people at all. Mostly they are janwar and Havyoon.

It will actually end up blowing the jihadi and suicide bombers supporters in the army.

Pakistan is facing a serious backlash from the moderate Pakistanis. How many lawyers are Jihadi, how many PPP workers are jihadi and how many laborers are jihadi? they are the people now fighting against the army rule and not the Jihadis. Jihadi game of one suicide bomber a week is clearly designed to help the army get more control of the country in the law and order name.

Re: # 158

{I resent this attempt at painting me as some sort of a sectarian.}

Jhoot bolay kuwa katay, kalay kuway (Altaf Hussein) sey daryo...

#184 zeemax
Re: zeemax ji

And if you recall I was the one crying and screaming out loud along with you over Jamia Hifza's issues and their innocent brutal murders and I also predicted the samethings then.....

There were other ways to handle those issues diplomatically ,but, again Pak army only knows innocent brutal killings............and now, the consequences of all those rest of the Pakis got to face.....