William Dalrymple January 11, 2008
#154 Posted by mohar1l on January 13, 2008 7:49:45 am
On top of that - Your president goes on international TV and announces that it's her own fault she was killed... just like he blamed women being raped as their own plan to get canadian visa....
And now you want 'dignity'?... ha ha...
And now you want 'dignity'?... ha ha...
#153 Posted by tahmed32 on January 13, 2008 7:49:00 am
zeemax: Far be it from me to ruin beautiful friendships on chowk (and ijazgul is a fine fellow, and although i have reservations about PM on certain issues as he well knows). but excuse me - you dragged in the christians into the arena. As a member of the majority community in Pakistan, I think i did the right thing in bringing this to your attention.
and an assassin is an assassin. Dont lose focus - the real demons facing Pakistan are the forces of lawlessness (whether hiding in caves in south waziristan or in green zones in Rawalpindi/Pakistan. When you point to innocent Pakistanis, these terrorists win.
and an assassin is an assassin. Dont lose focus - the real demons facing Pakistan are the forces of lawlessness (whether hiding in caves in south waziristan or in green zones in Rawalpindi/Pakistan. When you point to innocent Pakistanis, these terrorists win.
#152 Posted by mohar1l on January 13, 2008 7:46:45 am
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#151 Posted by zeemax on January 13, 2008 7:43:29 am
#142 Posted by ana,
Blasphemy laws apply not only to Muhammad but to Yassuh Masih as well.
But guess you didn't know that.
So stop your effing moralizing. You know nothing about Islam and are just a bimbo from St Joseph's Convent.
Blasphemy laws apply not only to Muhammad but to Yassuh Masih as well.
But guess you didn't know that.
So stop your effing moralizing. You know nothing about Islam and are just a bimbo from St Joseph's Convent.
#150 Posted by zeemax on January 13, 2008 7:37:35 am
#137 Posted by tahmed32,
There are Punjabi assassins, and Pashtuns, and Urdu-speaking, But the best are the Christians ... totally professional, and deliver. That's all I said.
Please don't distort nor threaten my relationship with people like PM and Ijaz_Gul on Chowk.
ana may think what she likes. I don't know her and have never interacted with her, and I don't care. But the former two are my great friends and I wish you would not jeopardize my relationship with them over a simple fact.
There are Punjabi assassins, and Pashtuns, and Urdu-speaking, But the best are the Christians ... totally professional, and deliver. That's all I said.
Please don't distort nor threaten my relationship with people like PM and Ijaz_Gul on Chowk.
ana may think what she likes. I don't know her and have never interacted with her, and I don't care. But the former two are my great friends and I wish you would not jeopardize my relationship with them over a simple fact.
#149 Posted by hamidm2 on January 13, 2008 7:37:11 am
zeemax,
... calm down ! .......... you are letting your new found love with your faith get in the way of decency and plain old common sense ........ all these 'baazari' consipiracy theories are beneath a man of your upbringing and education ......... don't follow in the path of osama and ayman - you are dangerously close to crossing over to the dark side .......
#148 Posted by tahmed32 on January 13, 2008 7:31:28 am
ana #142 I was just trying to be funny (no match for hamidm though I admit, and certainly no match for the unintentionaly funny ones on chowk). Welcome back to chowk after a long absence which I am sure was spent doing good works. :-)
#146 Posted by tahmed32 on January 13, 2008 7:29:41 am
#138 kamath: Given the disgusting attitude towards minorities in India - including things that Pakistanis dont do, like forming mobs to attack minorities in their homes - by your kind of hindu chauvinists, your post is hypocritical.
Reflect on that, and once you have realized your problem, then come back and talk about Pakistan.
Reflect on that, and once you have realized your problem, then come back and talk about Pakistan.
#145 Posted by zeemax on January 13, 2008 7:29:30 am
#129 Posted by hamidm2,
This post does not deserve a response.
This post does not deserve a response.
#144 Posted by zeemax on January 13, 2008 7:26:23 am
#128 Posted by ana,
ana, if you don't believe me, I suggest you go to the Defense Thana in Lahore and try to file a fictitious FIR against any person, for cheating you out of money or something like that. Then watch out when some ASI appoaches you. He will ask you what do you want by filing an FIR? You will say you want your money back. Then he will tell you filing an FIR will just take you through courts and magistrates, and if you really want your money back, talk to him.
The rest will come later. They will actually get anyone killed for you if you pay them enough. And they don't do it themselves. They have sub-contractors, and the top is a Christian gang. They're really good.
This is the truth. Cross my heart and hope to die.
ana, if you don't believe me, I suggest you go to the Defense Thana in Lahore and try to file a fictitious FIR against any person, for cheating you out of money or something like that. Then watch out when some ASI appoaches you. He will ask you what do you want by filing an FIR? You will say you want your money back. Then he will tell you filing an FIR will just take you through courts and magistrates, and if you really want your money back, talk to him.
The rest will come later. They will actually get anyone killed for you if you pay them enough. And they don't do it themselves. They have sub-contractors, and the top is a Christian gang. They're really good.
This is the truth. Cross my heart and hope to die.
#143 Posted by rf786 on January 13, 2008 7:25:42 am
Re: # 126
ahmedmadani sahib,
When God was allocating brain cells u seem to have skipped the line for a few minutes and I mean this with all due respect. The Z man dangles the MQM bone and u have to lunge for it? Come on bhai, have some respect for that name of yours, dont fall for these lame slants, now u have completely derailed the argument and played directly into Z plan to slant, subvert and slander. Classic Altaf Hussein style, always jumping the gun.
ahmedmadani sahib,
When God was allocating brain cells u seem to have skipped the line for a few minutes and I mean this with all due respect. The Z man dangles the MQM bone and u have to lunge for it? Come on bhai, have some respect for that name of yours, dont fall for these lame slants, now u have completely derailed the argument and played directly into Z plan to slant, subvert and slander. Classic Altaf Hussein style, always jumping the gun.
#142 Posted by ana on January 13, 2008 7:21:53 am
tahmed32:
Have you been possessed by the spirits of Geraldo Rivera, Jerry Springer, or the Grand Inquisitor in asking me that question in #133?!?
zeemax:
Your personal experience aside, and personal and professional aside, for your fellow Muslims, insinuating that a Christian could have been an assassin is dragging the community into it. I mean look what happened to a Christian village when one Christian man was wrongly accused of destroying a page from the Quran. Now that did not happen when a Muslim man desecrated it, did it? They went after just that one man. So please forgive me if I am not convinced about you NOT dragging the Christian community into this sordid mess, even if you had Christians as best friends. Details ki baat aur hai, aur fact ki baat aur hai. And for goodness sakes, Zeemax, do you still not recognize the irony or sarcasm in hamid's posts???
hamidm2:
I find that lengthy absences from Chowk are good for the soul, and one's mental health. Which would explain a lot of things here. :)
Have you been possessed by the spirits of Geraldo Rivera, Jerry Springer, or the Grand Inquisitor in asking me that question in #133?!?
zeemax:
Your personal experience aside, and personal and professional aside, for your fellow Muslims, insinuating that a Christian could have been an assassin is dragging the community into it. I mean look what happened to a Christian village when one Christian man was wrongly accused of destroying a page from the Quran. Now that did not happen when a Muslim man desecrated it, did it? They went after just that one man. So please forgive me if I am not convinced about you NOT dragging the Christian community into this sordid mess, even if you had Christians as best friends. Details ki baat aur hai, aur fact ki baat aur hai. And for goodness sakes, Zeemax, do you still not recognize the irony or sarcasm in hamid's posts???
hamidm2:
I find that lengthy absences from Chowk are good for the soul, and one's mental health. Which would explain a lot of things here. :)
#141 Posted by zeemax on January 13, 2008 7:19:43 am
I mean trying to instigate my friend PM whom I greatly admire, over this remark of mine, is shameful at best and downright insidious at worst.
#140 Posted by zeemax on January 13, 2008 7:17:47 am
I know my mistake. I am a details man. And most people here do not like minute details or minute observations. They would rather just read the headlines or watch TV and form opinions. I mustn't talk about details, and I will not in the future.
#139 Posted by zeemax on January 13, 2008 7:14:50 am
#126 Posted by ahmedmadani,
Ahmedmadani Saheb I'm greatly pained by first your accusation on me for painting MQM with a wide brush, and now the Christian Community.
Madani Saheb, I grew up in Karachi around Pereira Bakery in Saddar, and my best friends in Karachi are ALL Christian. I went to Christian schools with Nuns and Fathers. WTF are you talking about?
All I said and maintain is that it was a professional assassin, probably hired through MQM ranks, who was a Christian, because a certain professional assassin network consisting of Christians is the best in the country.
Now why do you want to lynch me over this?
Ahmedmadani Saheb I'm greatly pained by first your accusation on me for painting MQM with a wide brush, and now the Christian Community.
Madani Saheb, I grew up in Karachi around Pereira Bakery in Saddar, and my best friends in Karachi are ALL Christian. I went to Christian schools with Nuns and Fathers. WTF are you talking about?
All I said and maintain is that it was a professional assassin, probably hired through MQM ranks, who was a Christian, because a certain professional assassin network consisting of Christians is the best in the country.
Now why do you want to lynch me over this?
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