William Dalrymple January 11, 2008
#106 Posted by arjun_4 on January 13, 2008 3:55:54 am
#105 Posted by zeemax on January 13, 2008 2:30:13 am
A pistol round hardly makes a hole larger than pencil width.
umm...a .45 round at the distance the clean shaven man was will make one big ass hole in a human head. maybe you're thinking .22.
a high velocity sniper rifle round that hits the mark will make a big ass hole
maybe you should try your BS in unformed circles.
A pistol round hardly makes a hole larger than pencil width.
umm...a .45 round at the distance the clean shaven man was will make one big ass hole in a human head. maybe you're thinking .22.
a high velocity sniper rifle round that hits the mark will make a big ass hole
maybe you should try your BS in unformed circles.
#105 Posted by zeemax on January 13, 2008 2:30:13 am
#87 Posted by arjun_4
a glock sniper rifle with an amazing round that didn't blow her head off as a normal rifle round would...
A pistol round hardly makes a hole larger than pencil width. The hole in Benazir's head was 5x3 cm wide in an oval shape, and her brain was spilling out, as well as she lost half of the entire blood in her body right after she fell in the car. Pistol bullets don't cause that much loss of blood. Just a trickle from the wound.
If you recall the JFK assassination, he was hit with a high-velocity sniper rifle, and it didn't blow apart his head, though it did damage one side badly. Things have moved on since then.
I suggest you watch Sherry Rahman's testimony.
a glock sniper rifle with an amazing round that didn't blow her head off as a normal rifle round would...
A pistol round hardly makes a hole larger than pencil width. The hole in Benazir's head was 5x3 cm wide in an oval shape, and her brain was spilling out, as well as she lost half of the entire blood in her body right after she fell in the car. Pistol bullets don't cause that much loss of blood. Just a trickle from the wound.
If you recall the JFK assassination, he was hit with a high-velocity sniper rifle, and it didn't blow apart his head, though it did damage one side badly. Things have moved on since then.
I suggest you watch Sherry Rahman's testimony.
#104 Posted by zeemax on January 12, 2008 11:34:24 pm
#103 Posted by ahmedmadani,
Madani Saheb please read my post again. I had pointed to a professional assassin (the decoy shooter in the sunglasses) recruited from MQM and not at MQM as a political party with political motives.
You do agree MQM does have professional assassins on its rolls. Don't you? You saw many on May 12 in the video footage.
Please don't misunderstand my contention.
Madani Saheb please read my post again. I had pointed to a professional assassin (the decoy shooter in the sunglasses) recruited from MQM and not at MQM as a political party with political motives.
You do agree MQM does have professional assassins on its rolls. Don't you? You saw many on May 12 in the video footage.
Please don't misunderstand my contention.
#103 Posted by ahmedmadani on January 12, 2008 8:52:01 pm
Re: # 78 Z man are you addicted to drugs along with alcohol to have such hullucination and hopeful dreams. As I have said before no smoking gun was found and many felt disappointed that MQM was not involved.
If MQM wanted they could have put total on BB and PPP after coming from abroad. Let little little leaders do not mess up with MQM . They can make more destruction 100 times what PPP rioter made. Note Z man MQM is very good friends and very dangerous to enemies. Altaf Hussain asked his troops and local satraps to just watch and do not react to cool down situation. If he had given green flag MQM could have hunted all rumpage makers specially in KHI with military precison. But Altaff Hussain well know for strtegic intelligence in Urban warfare kept his horse way. Please do not go on accusing MQM , what it did not do ,and Altaf shown great tolerance to allow rumpage but do not mistake as sign of weakness, it was startegic holding his troops. Hope others follow example of self restraint.
If MQM wanted they could have put total on BB and PPP after coming from abroad. Let little little leaders do not mess up with MQM . They can make more destruction 100 times what PPP rioter made. Note Z man MQM is very good friends and very dangerous to enemies. Altaf Hussain asked his troops and local satraps to just watch and do not react to cool down situation. If he had given green flag MQM could have hunted all rumpage makers specially in KHI with military precison. But Altaff Hussain well know for strtegic intelligence in Urban warfare kept his horse way. Please do not go on accusing MQM , what it did not do ,and Altaf shown great tolerance to allow rumpage but do not mistake as sign of weakness, it was startegic holding his troops. Hope others follow example of self restraint.
#102 Posted by rf786 on January 12, 2008 8:18:47 pm
Re: # 99
tahmed32,
This obssessive infatuation with Musharraf shows your inability to appreciate and differentiate friend and foe. Its the MILITARY dummy, not Musharraf. You remove a name plate and it will be replaced by another, then again its the likes of you who believe in worshipping idols rather than institutions. Same goes for that idiot Ch Iftikhar, if supremacy of the Law and the institution was paramount then that idiot should have resigned the day he was reinstated. Then again, he too is an ignoramus driven by his rapaciouness and myopic view of life.
tahmed32,
This obssessive infatuation with Musharraf shows your inability to appreciate and differentiate friend and foe. Its the MILITARY dummy, not Musharraf. You remove a name plate and it will be replaced by another, then again its the likes of you who believe in worshipping idols rather than institutions. Same goes for that idiot Ch Iftikhar, if supremacy of the Law and the institution was paramount then that idiot should have resigned the day he was reinstated. Then again, he too is an ignoramus driven by his rapaciouness and myopic view of life.
#101 Posted by rf786 on January 12, 2008 8:12:45 pm
Re: # 87
Our dear conspiracy theory expert is referring to the esteemed Retd. General Naseer Ullah Babar aka Lal Bundar, ex-ISI Chief, ex-Interior Minister. Like his contemporary Hameed Gul, The Lal Bandar tries to compensate for the lack of brain cells with fantastic tales weaved out of some fiction book (Imran Series).
Our dear conspiracy theory expert is referring to the esteemed Retd. General Naseer Ullah Babar aka Lal Bundar, ex-ISI Chief, ex-Interior Minister. Like his contemporary Hameed Gul, The Lal Bandar tries to compensate for the lack of brain cells with fantastic tales weaved out of some fiction book (Imran Series).
#100 Posted by nasah on January 12, 2008 7:47:25 pm
"Musharraf says:“Believe me, on the day when I arrive at the conviction that the majority of the people don’t want me any more,...I will go"
You better go sooner because the day for your conviction has already arrived" -- 77% people "don't want you anymore" -- don't wait for the other 26% -- if you want to avoid conviction.
You better go sooner because the day for your conviction has already arrived" -- 77% people "don't want you anymore" -- don't wait for the other 26% -- if you want to avoid conviction.
#99 Posted by tahmed32 on January 12, 2008 6:52:41 pm
nasah #92 this man was pulled crying and weeping out of his wardi. he was willing to wreck the supreme court and the pakistan constitution and to get people killed (on may 12, and perhaps on other occassions to) and beaten and imprisoned as he struggled to stay in his precious wardi. he will not leave his the president's job without a similar struggle in the days ahead. it wont be pretty.
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#94 Posted by Zeena on January 12, 2008 5:04:13 pm
Dear writer
I wish to show you the real picture of unfortunate state, called Pakistan.
I strongly dismiss your article, you're completely wrong in your povs about Pakistan, it looks like you didn't do your homework prior to writting this twisted article with no sense , no sense at all.
I don't blame BB, NS, ZAB or any other politician for the collapse of Pakistan... Yes, I firmly believe and strongly blame Army for all the problems....Pakistanis never tasted democracy....always became hostage of cruel army....for 47 years....and yet, people have the nerves to blame BB or any other politician? Just read this....
The Pakistani nation is starving, Musharaf and his cruel army is thriving. flour crisis in Pakistan is worsening. People have to be in long lines to get one small bag of flour just for their basic needs. And the saddest thing is that 100% of Pakistan people use flour daily for their meals. It is the most essential commodity for rich and poor both. People can't survive without flour. Poor Pakistanis have been facing first sugar shortage, then gas shortage, electricity shortage and now extreme flour shortage.
So who are we blaming for all these crises of basic necessities?
Musharaf and his gang offcourse.................they have made it clear that they are the only humans in Pakistan who should their verocious needs met.......they are trying their best to discredit the basic right of poor Pakistani citizens by depriving them of food and then shelters.........they are trying their best to make sure that mushdog and his allies should govern starved nation boundlessly...when a governance fails to provide the basic needs to poor citizens then they have NO right, absolutely NO right to for the governance.........what sort of good governance is this? for God's sake, wake up.....wake up Pakistanis.
Musharaf and his allies wish every Poor Pakistani citizen to die of starvation now. First he murdered thousands of poor Pakistani citizens on streets like vegetables last year with no regrets, no regrets at all and now they have acquired a new tactics to kill more and more poors via starvation...............that is the most painful scene to see, fourteen crores of Pakistanis are suffering due to these power hungry monsters who are eradicating Pakis days in and days out.....and then filling up their big corrupt bellies by looting poor people's money to fill their unlimited needs...........
Musharaf and his bast**d allies are undermining , suppressing and oppressing the basic right of Pakistani citizens to put an end to democratic waves in Pakistan and they're not letting go of any golden opportunity to make hostage all those poor and innocent Pakistani citizens to meet their own vicious needs.........to make sure that their families are superior and they are not in those lines to beg for ,"FLOUR".....................
These monsters are living lavishly and for their lavish needs poor Pakistanis got to pay over the things that they don't even know what they did? Isn't it tragic? Isn't it sad enough to make us cry?
If NOT then we're not humans, we're worst than these blood sucker leaches and vultchers who call themselves Paki leaders.................rulers....
These harami rulers are sucking poor Pakis blood for their own extremely high expenditures and cause these inflations and recessions...........and then these harrammis borrow more and more money from central bank , much more than their budget..........now their banks are just empty cans with some echos of poverty, some poverty stricken screams and they're not listening b/c they don't want to listen to those tortured voices who are the reason that they are calling themselves ,"RULERS"....RULERS of those who are starving from hunger..........sigh*
This Pakistani turmoil is in it's height, and the greatest tragedy is that there seems no end to the sufferings of Poor Pakistani citizens................resulting in mental anguish and physical disorders....currently, Pakistan has become a lawless, foodless and needless state where 80% population has become hostage of these army rulers, who are ruling them on gun points. Their poverty stricken lives have become miserable than prisoners of wars.........
Now, this crisis of flour is an open proof of the kind of agony Poor Pakistanis are passing through.
When I see millions of poor Pakistanis standing in lines, fighting and arguing just for ,"ATTA(FLOUR)"...It hurts my heart and soul deep inside, when I see old worn-out ladies with broken legs(fractured) crying and begging for flour and being stepped over by other poverty stricken countrymen.....I feel agony, helplessness and then I start crying and my endless tears don't stop , they won't stop b/c I am devastated and so do my fellow countrymen, they're so badly devastated by these tragedies that my nation"s sufferings have reached unprecedented heights. It's so painful for me to be still alive and see all this with my own eyes................sigh*
I know a small progress could show us highly positive effects, but our rulers don't care for 80% of poor Pakistanis, they see them as blisters in their own land...............poverty, food insecurity and agricultural disparity have made Pakistan critically collapsed state..........I just feel bad, sad, hurt, agonized and helpless............sigh*
For the last couple of weeks, I can't eat....how can I eat ? when my own poor countrymen are living in dismal poverty....how can I sleep, when majority of my countrymen couldn't sleep b/c of basic food shortage and are unable to sleep with hungry and empty stomachs?
I wish to show you the real picture of unfortunate state, called Pakistan.
I strongly dismiss your article, you're completely wrong in your povs about Pakistan, it looks like you didn't do your homework prior to writting this twisted article with no sense , no sense at all.
I don't blame BB, NS, ZAB or any other politician for the collapse of Pakistan... Yes, I firmly believe and strongly blame Army for all the problems....Pakistanis never tasted democracy....always became hostage of cruel army....for 47 years....and yet, people have the nerves to blame BB or any other politician? Just read this....
The Pakistani nation is starving, Musharaf and his cruel army is thriving. flour crisis in Pakistan is worsening. People have to be in long lines to get one small bag of flour just for their basic needs. And the saddest thing is that 100% of Pakistan people use flour daily for their meals. It is the most essential commodity for rich and poor both. People can't survive without flour. Poor Pakistanis have been facing first sugar shortage, then gas shortage, electricity shortage and now extreme flour shortage.
So who are we blaming for all these crises of basic necessities?
Musharaf and his gang offcourse.................they have made it clear that they are the only humans in Pakistan who should their verocious needs met.......they are trying their best to discredit the basic right of poor Pakistani citizens by depriving them of food and then shelters.........they are trying their best to make sure that mushdog and his allies should govern starved nation boundlessly...when a governance fails to provide the basic needs to poor citizens then they have NO right, absolutely NO right to for the governance.........what sort of good governance is this? for God's sake, wake up.....wake up Pakistanis.
Musharaf and his allies wish every Poor Pakistani citizen to die of starvation now. First he murdered thousands of poor Pakistani citizens on streets like vegetables last year with no regrets, no regrets at all and now they have acquired a new tactics to kill more and more poors via starvation...............that is the most painful scene to see, fourteen crores of Pakistanis are suffering due to these power hungry monsters who are eradicating Pakis days in and days out.....and then filling up their big corrupt bellies by looting poor people's money to fill their unlimited needs...........
Musharaf and his bast**d allies are undermining , suppressing and oppressing the basic right of Pakistani citizens to put an end to democratic waves in Pakistan and they're not letting go of any golden opportunity to make hostage all those poor and innocent Pakistani citizens to meet their own vicious needs.........to make sure that their families are superior and they are not in those lines to beg for ,"FLOUR".....................
These monsters are living lavishly and for their lavish needs poor Pakistanis got to pay over the things that they don't even know what they did? Isn't it tragic? Isn't it sad enough to make us cry?
If NOT then we're not humans, we're worst than these blood sucker leaches and vultchers who call themselves Paki leaders.................rulers....
These harami rulers are sucking poor Pakis blood for their own extremely high expenditures and cause these inflations and recessions...........and then these harrammis borrow more and more money from central bank , much more than their budget..........now their banks are just empty cans with some echos of poverty, some poverty stricken screams and they're not listening b/c they don't want to listen to those tortured voices who are the reason that they are calling themselves ,"RULERS"....RULERS of those who are starving from hunger..........sigh*
This Pakistani turmoil is in it's height, and the greatest tragedy is that there seems no end to the sufferings of Poor Pakistani citizens................resulting in mental anguish and physical disorders....currently, Pakistan has become a lawless, foodless and needless state where 80% population has become hostage of these army rulers, who are ruling them on gun points. Their poverty stricken lives have become miserable than prisoners of wars.........
Now, this crisis of flour is an open proof of the kind of agony Poor Pakistanis are passing through.
When I see millions of poor Pakistanis standing in lines, fighting and arguing just for ,"ATTA(FLOUR)"...It hurts my heart and soul deep inside, when I see old worn-out ladies with broken legs(fractured) crying and begging for flour and being stepped over by other poverty stricken countrymen.....I feel agony, helplessness and then I start crying and my endless tears don't stop , they won't stop b/c I am devastated and so do my fellow countrymen, they're so badly devastated by these tragedies that my nation"s sufferings have reached unprecedented heights. It's so painful for me to be still alive and see all this with my own eyes................sigh*
I know a small progress could show us highly positive effects, but our rulers don't care for 80% of poor Pakistanis, they see them as blisters in their own land...............poverty, food insecurity and agricultural disparity have made Pakistan critically collapsed state..........I just feel bad, sad, hurt, agonized and helpless............sigh*
For the last couple of weeks, I can't eat....how can I eat ? when my own poor countrymen are living in dismal poverty....how can I sleep, when majority of my countrymen couldn't sleep b/c of basic food shortage and are unable to sleep with hungry and empty stomachs?
#93 Posted by Zeena on January 12, 2008 5:00:16 pm
Dear writer
I wish to show you the real picture of unfortunate state, called Pakistan.
I strongly dismiss your article, you're completely wrong in your povs about Pakistan, it looks like you didn't do your homework prior to writting this twisted article with no sense , no sense at all.
I don't blame BB, NS, ZAB or any other politician for the collapse of Pakistan... Yes, I firmly believe and strongly blame Army for all the problems....Pakistanis never tasted democracy....always became hostage of cruel army....for 47 years....and yet, people have the nerves to blame BB or any other politician? Just read this....
The Pakistani nation is starving, Musharaf and his cruel army is thriving. flour crisis in Pakistan is worsening. People have to be in long lines to get one small bag of flour just for their basic needs. And the saddest thing is that 100% of Pakistani people use flour daily for their meals. It is the most essential commodity for rich and poor both. People can't survive without flour. Poor Pakistanis have been facing first sugar shortage, then gas shortage, electricity shortage and now extreme flour shortage.
So who are we blaming for all these crises of basic necessities?
Musharaf and his gang offcourse.................they have made it clear that they are the only humans in Pakistan who should their verocious needs met.......they are trying their best to discredit the basic right of poor Pakistani citizens by depriving them of food and then shelters.........they are trying their best to make sure that mushdog and his allies should govern starved nation boundlessly...when a governance fails to provide the basic needs to poor citizens then they have NO right, absolutely NO right to for the governance.........what sort of good governance is this? for God's sake, wake up.....wake up Pakistanis.
Musharaf and his allies wish every Poor Pakistani citizen to die of starvation now. First he murdered thousands of poor Pakistani citizens on streets like vegetables last year with no regrets, no regrets at all and now they have acquired a new tactics to kill more and more poors via starvation...............that is the most painful scene to see, fourteen crores of Pakistanis are suffering due to these power hungry monsters who are eradicating Pakis days in and days out.....and then filling up their big corrupt bellies by looting poor people's money to fill their unlimited needs...........
Musharaf and his bast**d allies are undermining , suppressing and oppressing the basic right of Pakistani citizens to put an end to democratic waves in Pakistan and they're not letting go of any golden opportunity to make hostage all those poor and innocent Pakistani citizens to meet their own vicious needs.........to make sure that their families are superior and they are not in those lines to beg for ,"FLOUR".....................
These monsters are living lavishly and for their lavish needs poor Pakistanis got to pay over the things that they don't even know what they did? Isn't it tragic? Isn't it sad enough to make us cry?
If NOT then we're not humans, we're worst than these blood sucker leaches and vultchers who call themselves Paki leaders.................rulers....
These harami rulers are sucking poor Pakis blood for their own extremely high expenditures and cause these inflations and recessions...........and then these harrammis borrow more and more money from central bank , much more than their budget..........now their banks are just empty cans with some echos of poverty, some poverty stricken screams and they're not listening b/c they don't want to listen to those tortured voices who are the reason that they are calling themselves ,"RULERS"....RULERS of those who are starving from hunger..........sigh*
This Pakistani turmoil is in it's height, and the greatest tragedy is that there seems to be no end to the sufferings of Poor Pakistani citizens................resulting in mental anguish and physical disorders....currently, Pakistan has become a lawless, foodless and needless state where 80% population has become hostage of these army rulers, who are ruling them on gun points. Their poverty stricken lives have become miserable than prisoners of wars.........
I wish to show you the real picture of unfortunate state, called Pakistan.
I strongly dismiss your article, you're completely wrong in your povs about Pakistan, it looks like you didn't do your homework prior to writting this twisted article with no sense , no sense at all.
I don't blame BB, NS, ZAB or any other politician for the collapse of Pakistan... Yes, I firmly believe and strongly blame Army for all the problems....Pakistanis never tasted democracy....always became hostage of cruel army....for 47 years....and yet, people have the nerves to blame BB or any other politician? Just read this....
The Pakistani nation is starving, Musharaf and his cruel army is thriving. flour crisis in Pakistan is worsening. People have to be in long lines to get one small bag of flour just for their basic needs. And the saddest thing is that 100% of Pakistani people use flour daily for their meals. It is the most essential commodity for rich and poor both. People can't survive without flour. Poor Pakistanis have been facing first sugar shortage, then gas shortage, electricity shortage and now extreme flour shortage.
So who are we blaming for all these crises of basic necessities?
Musharaf and his gang offcourse.................they have made it clear that they are the only humans in Pakistan who should their verocious needs met.......they are trying their best to discredit the basic right of poor Pakistani citizens by depriving them of food and then shelters.........they are trying their best to make sure that mushdog and his allies should govern starved nation boundlessly...when a governance fails to provide the basic needs to poor citizens then they have NO right, absolutely NO right to for the governance.........what sort of good governance is this? for God's sake, wake up.....wake up Pakistanis.
Musharaf and his allies wish every Poor Pakistani citizen to die of starvation now. First he murdered thousands of poor Pakistani citizens on streets like vegetables last year with no regrets, no regrets at all and now they have acquired a new tactics to kill more and more poors via starvation...............that is the most painful scene to see, fourteen crores of Pakistanis are suffering due to these power hungry monsters who are eradicating Pakis days in and days out.....and then filling up their big corrupt bellies by looting poor people's money to fill their unlimited needs...........
Musharaf and his bast**d allies are undermining , suppressing and oppressing the basic right of Pakistani citizens to put an end to democratic waves in Pakistan and they're not letting go of any golden opportunity to make hostage all those poor and innocent Pakistani citizens to meet their own vicious needs.........to make sure that their families are superior and they are not in those lines to beg for ,"FLOUR".....................
These monsters are living lavishly and for their lavish needs poor Pakistanis got to pay over the things that they don't even know what they did? Isn't it tragic? Isn't it sad enough to make us cry?
If NOT then we're not humans, we're worst than these blood sucker leaches and vultchers who call themselves Paki leaders.................rulers....
These harami rulers are sucking poor Pakis blood for their own extremely high expenditures and cause these inflations and recessions...........and then these harrammis borrow more and more money from central bank , much more than their budget..........now their banks are just empty cans with some echos of poverty, some poverty stricken screams and they're not listening b/c they don't want to listen to those tortured voices who are the reason that they are calling themselves ,"RULERS"....RULERS of those who are starving from hunger..........sigh*
This Pakistani turmoil is in it's height, and the greatest tragedy is that there seems to be no end to the sufferings of Poor Pakistani citizens................resulting in mental anguish and physical disorders....currently, Pakistan has become a lawless, foodless and needless state where 80% population has become hostage of these army rulers, who are ruling them on gun points. Their poverty stricken lives have become miserable than prisoners of wars.........
#92 Posted by nasah on January 12, 2008 4:46:23 pm
"HAMBURG: President Pervez Musharraf has said that he will resign if a majority of the Pakistani people no longer want him.
“Believe me, on the day when I arrive at the conviction that the majority of the people don’t want me any more, when I believe I can no longer make a contribution to my country, I will not hesitate a second. I will go,”(AP)
Pakistan Fraud and Flatulant Prince says -- that he will resign "when I arrive at the conviction" -- for a person who got selected in a referundum with the 99% majority vote -- current 23% approval rate is still not a minority eough.
“Believe me, on the day when I arrive at the conviction that the majority of the people don’t want me any more, when I believe I can no longer make a contribution to my country, I will not hesitate a second. I will go,”(AP)
Pakistan Fraud and Flatulant Prince says -- that he will resign "when I arrive at the conviction" -- for a person who got selected in a referundum with the 99% majority vote -- current 23% approval rate is still not a minority eough.
#91 Posted by masadi on January 12, 2008 3:35:47 pm
In #84 read "At the heels of a contrived peace deal in which the Palestinians will be the losers will come the bombing of Iraq by the US under Israeli flags.
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At the heels of a contrived peace deal in which the Palestinians will be the losers will come the bombing of Iran by the US under Israeli flags.
as
At the heels of a contrived peace deal in which the Palestinians will be the losers will come the bombing of Iran by the US under Israeli flags.
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