Pakistan's Flawed and Feudal Princess

#233 is further to my post #231 to masadi.

and moreover, if Hamidm was in fact fat and ugly (as you claim in your usual baseless manner) - what does that have to do with what he writes? earlier you were calling Dr. Sohail the Jabba the Hut, and now it is Hamidm.

only a dimwit is concerned about a posters appearance on a discussion forum like chowk. so try to be the intellectual you aspire to be - and focus on what people write. rather than trying to find fault in their physical appearance or making personal attacks like a madman hurling abuse on passersby on the street.

Re: # 227

Hamidm Sahib:

"...if i lost twenty, i would start looking for a replacement for mrs hamidm ! ..."

And if you loose what I hinted, Mrs. Hamidm will start worrshiping you. It is better to let Mrs. Hamidm worship you than, you start looking elsewhere.

I am truly disappointed by Musharraff. He has shattered my heart. I was counting on another Old Delhiwala. Joker Cheema to his comments on popularity of BB with Army make me very suspecious. I do not think Army is playing clean.

I read Fareed Zakaria's report, what do you think of what Fareed Zakaria says about Musharraff?

masadi: writing baseless abuse and making false accusations (as you do below) is not "giving someone hell" - any twit can write abuse on chowk (and get banned nowadays - as you routinely do).

twisting what i wrote (e.g. when i point to your treating US as if it was all-powerful God and claiming I am thereby equating the US with God) and making baseless accusations (as your post is littered with about me) is not "giving hell" either.

There is nothing I wrote in #222 that is factually untrue or unreasonable and you know that and so you studiously avoid a substantive response and provide instead abuse and accusations and lies. No amount of abuse and accusations and rambling assertions are a substitute for a reasoned, fact-based argument.

...And your claim that Hamidm looks like Jabba the Hut because he is 198 pounds is merely another example of your stupidity in automatically assumeing he is fat and ugly.

in #229 read "Once needs to ask, is his perception of God so very low that he equates dominating a country's military (as the US does the Pakistani military) as being akin to being God?"

as

One needs to ask, is his perception of God so very low that he equates dominating a country's military (as the US does the Pakistani military) as being akin to being God? [No, mortals are very well capable of doing what he is saying God only can do]

Tahmed writes "HP #192 Agreed that the US has a lot of influence in Pakistan. But that still does not make it the All-Powerful, All-Knowing God without whose written permission a bird may not fly or die as some of chowks world class intellectuals assume."

Once again tahmed deliberately repeats his falsehood in order to mask the crimes of the objects of his worship the US elite. Once needs to ask, is his perception of God so very low that he equates dominating a country's military (as the US does the Pakistani military) as being akin to being God? In fact he knows perfectly well that not only does the US dominate the dominant institution i.e. the military in our country, he knows that dominating this institution and then controlling affairs of consequence in our nation, which includes putting up and then pulling the rug from under dictators when they so desire for their own selfish motives and not for our nation, is something that mortals are very well capable of and it does not require the power of God to do. The reason why he throws in this God talk is because i) He worships the US elite and wants to associate them with God whatever opportunity he gets ii) he wants to invent a straw man to discredit the arguments of his opponents for the prime reason of hiding the crimes and intereferene in the affairs of other countries deliberately and by jumping the ocean as is done by the Americans and Americans alone on a global level, no other country does this on a global level whatsoever...

Regarding Hamid, did I not say he looks like Jabba the Hut, today he confirms it....Ras mian that was my advice to tahmed when he comes up with his contrived fake concern for the people of Pakistan whom he is stabbing in the back by supporting the US on every and all occassions, it was that he should leave our people the hell alone and talk about Brittany and Paris to pass his time.

HP sahib, don't be so kind and diplomatic towards this snake tahmed. You know 100% where he's coming from and where his loyalties are. Give him the hell he deserves.....

#226 Posted by Ras on January 13, 2008 6:03:14 pm

Ras,

Will it give boost to Islam or the cause(s) of Islam?

Even Micheal jackson got converted & so was his elder brother (who married a Pakistani woman). Grandson of Henry Ford became a Hindu. Religion is personal choice of all adults. What's a big deal abt it?

I know u r capable to deflecting my jab but it's obvious that u all feel that the 'sinner-sinning' gaal wud be kosher now (smiles).

Prolly she's a step away from declaring that al-Lah is the ONLY God and Prophet is the Last Messenger of al-Lah & all momins on Chowk start pirouetting......

Oh, let's say that religion is a personal matter.

Re: # 224

anil mian,

....... now you are making me real mad ! ........ all i need to do is loose fifteen pounds and i would be perfectly happy ..... if i lost twenty, i would start looking for a replacement for mrs hamidm !

...... anyway, all this speculation about who killed bb is for nought! ......... with a musharraf, zardari, shahbaz sharif government in the offing everyone will shut the f up in a few weeks and get down to business as usual ..... even the thieves of gujarat will be thrown a few bones and the droopy eyed cj will be left free to roam the streets and eat ganderis and chat from the rehris ...... imran khan will continue to chase cars and try to bite their tires - he wouldn't know what to do with it if he ever caught one ........

.........the muslims will continue to blow themselves up, and life will go on as usual until mo comes back to earth (or tahmed claims prophethood) .....

...... trust me, we pakis are like froth on a puddle of piss .........

I believe that William should use his considerale south-asian "expertise" and focus on what he knows a great deal
more about like this report below in The Nation today...

"Britney wants to embrace Islam

LONDON (Agencies) - Britney Spears is planning to marry her paparazzo lover Adnan Ghalib, and convert to his faith, Islam, it has been revealed.
According to sources, the ‘Toxic’ singer has been telling pals how much she loves Ghalib, and that she’s intent on tying the knot with him.
Britney has even been threatening to fake her own death to start a new life with him in Pakistan, reports British newspaper Daily Star. A close pal revealed that the troubled singer wants the ceremony to be conducted by a minister from the Church of Scientology, adding that her ‘whole clan is in a state of shock’.
Britney is said to have announced her ‘exciting news’ last week on a beach in Mexico, where she fled by private jet with Ghalib.
Spears, who has been married twice before, is believed to be adamant on getting hitched with Ghalib, despite several warnings from her close friends and aides.
“She’s been told it would be an act of insanity to marry this man. She says she’s doing it and she doesn’t care what anyone thinks,” the newspaper quoted a source, as saying.
“Britney has been in this position before but she can’t seem to stop herself. It’s amazing that after two failed marriages she’s about to go through it again,” the source added.
Spears has been previously married to childhood sweetheart Jason Alexander and rapper Kevin Federline."

anil: i think you are making assumptions about hamidm's height. that is exactly the kind of baseless assumptions that i bring to attention in #222.

Re: # 219

Hamidm Sahib:

"...i promise to throw my considerbale weight (198 lbs)..."

You need to loose some weight, or throw at least 40 lbs of it.

hamidm: at 198 pounds, I hope you are well over 6 feet tall - in which case you have even less of an excuse for encouraging mush (who no doubt reads chowk diligently and uses Urstruly as his nick to make himself look good compared to the opposition).

HP #192 Agreed that the US has a lot of influence in Pakistan. But that still does not make it the All-Powerful, All-Knowing God without whose written permission a bird may not fly or die as some of chowks world class intellectuals assume.

And what these intellectuals dont burden themselves with asking is:
1. Is the US influence due to some evil intent on the part of the US, or is it necessitated by conditions created in Pakistan by ambitious, lawless dictators? Why is US influence not an issue in neighboring India or Turkey or indeed any other democratic country in the world?
2. What is the nature of this US influence? The lawyers movement in Pakistan found resonance with US lawyers. Not Chinese or Russian. The US government - even the Bush government with all its faults - echoed the CJ's call for free and fair elections. Not a squeak from our Chinese friends (who pulled Musharraf's ears only when their own citizens were kidnapped by lal masjid maulvis under Mush's nose)!! Not a squeak from Russia (where Putin could probably serve as Mush's role model in terms of rigging elections and muzzling the press). And I wont even mention our "muslim brothers" who wouldnt understand issues that brave Pakistanis inspired by the example of the CJ have been fighting for the past years - issues of the rule of law, habeas corpus, freedom of the press, free and fair elections. These are issues that are understood in the US even by Bush (who is the sole head of state i know who has echoed the CJ's call for free and fair elections) because these are issues that the US revolutionaries themselves fought for two centuries ago.

.... in case, he didn't hear it :

musharraf zindabad !

oye! ai ki ho rey ay, or as they would say in the civilized world, "what the fcuk is this !"

ISLAMABAD, Jan 12: Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) head Shahbaz Sharif dashed to Islamabad on Saturday and returned to Lahore in the evening after holding separate meetings with an aide of President Pervez Musharraf, the Saudi ambassador and a former bureaucrat, sources told Dawn.

The sources said the PML-N president had met Brig (retd) Niaz Ahmad, who passed a message from President Musharraf on to Mr Sharif about the formation of a national government before the general election.

Sources in the PML-N said the president had suggested Shahbaz Sharif to become a part of the proposed government. The sources said the president had also proposed a “future role” for Shahbaz Sharif after the elections.




......... now, do you know whay i support musharraf ?

musharraf zindabad !

Re: # 217

... and before prophet tahmed (pbuh) gets all upset with me for supporting the dictator, i promise to throw my considerbale weight (198 lbs) behind the droopy eyed chief justice and aitizaz ahsan if they ever manages to get out of the house .....