Pakistan's Flawed and Feudal Princess

this fuken problem is much much bigger that we realize :

KARACHI: After repeated failures in the 2007 season, some players from the Pakistan cricket team approached Dawat-e-Islami (DI) chief Maulana Ilyas Qadri to pray for them. DI Sports Committee member Sahil Raza Attari confirmed that several members of the team, including Misbahul Haq, Muhammad Hafeez, Faysal Iqbal, Humayun Farhat, and some members of A-team, along with Pakistan Sports Board Deputy Director Pervez Mughal, held a meeting with Qadri at his residence. The meeting lasted for around 45 minutes, during which Qadri prayed for the players and preached them to offer prayers regularly. The players approached Qadri prior to the start of a series against Zimbabwe, which has arrived at Karachi for a 22-day tour.

musharraf zindabad !
sheikh rashid szindabad !

..... and i am not changing my tune until i see somone else emerging to threaten them ........ so far it is all lufangebazi and mein general seems to be firmly in charge ! ....... heil musharraf !

BB was very unpopular with army: Musharraf

* President says militants think they can take over country
* Pak troops in FATA can operate better than Americans
* Calls for exhumation of Benazir’s body
* Rules out UN probe

WASHINGTON: President Pervez Musharraf, in a US magazine interview, has said late PPP chairwoman Benazir Bhutto was very unpopular with the military.

In a wide-ranging interview with Newsweek published online, he said someone who the religious lobby thought was “an unreligious person” and who was seen as a US ally, could not have been the right person to fight terrorists.

‘Militants want to take over Pakistan’: He said Pakistan’s efforts against terrorism were working in case of the Taliban, and the country was now dealing with local extremists, mostly from South Punjab, and foreigners. Baitullah Mehsood was training suicide bombers targeting political leaders. The president said militants were turning against Pakistan because they were against him. “They are against anyone who is supporting me. So therefore, they want to weaken the government, they want to weaken me. [Perhaps] they think they can take over Pakistan.”

The president said tribal agreements did not solve the problem in FATA, but insisted that negotiations must continue.

‘Pakistani troops can do better in FATA’: He said if the US undertook a unilateral operation inside Pakistan, they would “curse the day they came here”.

“I know these areas, and I know American troops. I know our troops. This is not easy.”

He said Pakistani troops were tougher and could go on roti (bread) and water, while the US troops would need chocolate. “We are totally in cooperation on the intelligence side,” he said. “But we are totally against (a military operation). We will ask for assistance from outsiders. They won’t impose their will on us.”

‘Benazir’s body should be exhumed’: The president called for the body of late Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) chairwoman Benazir Bhutto to be exhumed, as he rejected charges that the government was complicit in her assassination.

“Yes, exhume it. A hundred percent. I would like it to be exhumed,” he said. “Because I know for sure there is no bullet wound other than on the right side.” But he ruled out ordering a post-mortem without the agreement of Bhutto’s family. “It would have very big political ramifications.”

He said Bhutto’s supporters had not agreed to a post-mortem “because they know it’s a fact there is nothing wrong.”

“Everybody is trying to gain political advantage; the entire opposition is trying to take political advantage,” he said. He said the superintendent of police who was in charge of her security was “her own handpicked”.

Bhutto was told about intelligence reports of a possible attack, he said.

UN probe: “There cannot be a UN investigation,” Musharraf told Newsweek. “There are not two or three countries involved. Why should there be a UN investigation? This is ridiculous.” The president said he was ready to work with the PPP if they won the February general elections. “I can work with anyone,” he said. agencies

shouldn't the army of allah's chosen people be, I don't know, freeing up kashmir from hindoo occupation or something?

Troops deployed at flour mills

Govt reluctant to shut supplies to Afghanistan
Naqi Akbar
Lahore - The government is planning to rationalise the flour supplies to Afghanistan on government-to-government basis despite domestic supply pressures. Meanwhile, the Rangers are gradually taking over the flour mills clusters in Punjab with 10 out of 34 mills already put under the vigil of the paramilitary forces.
The flour supply lines, throughout the country in general and in Lahore in particular, remained short of demand, promoting brawls among the people lining up for flour bags near trucks that too were few this Sunday.

Re: # 213

I think the the first thing that has fallen flat on its face is this "payroll" theory, right after our fouj's glorious engagement in the WOT. Clearly naPak fouj is on CIAs payroll and tries to prove itself more loyal than the king, even killing school children if it has to. But why those, who according to you are on the napak fouj's payroll or that of CIAs are not just taking what their price is and sit down. If global colonialism is paying billions to the napak fouj for the serveices rendered then why can't it spend just a couple of hundered million to buy off who sell themselves for a payroll?


Having said that, there is no denying that there are moulvis on CIAs payroll as well e.g. whole of jamat-e-islami, moulvi fuzla, and other sirkari moulvis who were playing the part of "ooooh that vicious opposition" in the key club that this m/f dictator has been running for the past 8 years.

I think it is self-deceiting and self-defeating to mix up ordinary pakistani citizen with these charlatans.

I"f you remeber Na Pak fouj and their media was reporting fath-e-mubeen until the mid day December 16, 1971."

I am not supporting the Pak army neither do I support their mullah created by the army as most of them have been on the ISI payroll for years.
It was you who believed the myth of Fateh e mobeen before the 16th dec. No one in my family did and no one in Sindh believed that. You were ignorant then and you are ignorant now. You oppose the army and then turn around and support the people the army created.

You are one of the useful idiots that the army has all over the Pakistani society!

And btw, Don't quote Abbass athar from Express and make it look like your comments!

Re: # 211

I do not think that this scenario is possible anymore. Everybody in the civilized world is now of the opinion that the neo-colonials can be brought down to their knees. I think, in the next couple of years they will try to cut their loses and make the best out of hopeless war. The moral of their population is now drown the drain; this despite their propaganda machinery injecting them with a fear pill 24/7 non stop.

It is human psychology that when they see a weaker party being pummeled mercilessly, even though being wrong, they start siding with it.

Re: # 203

Urstruly,

You seem to be a sincere, decent chap who feels deeply and rightfully so offended but seem to lack the understanding or repercussions of violence.

These bring it on monkeys had no qualms of incinerating more than 50million people of their own (WW I &II), what makes u think they will blink for a second when its our turn? Do not be fooled by small and meaningless victories. Developed nations along with the rest of wannabes will not tolerate a bigger Taliban problem. Before that ever happens they will exterminate the root problem. And tell u what, there will be nobody out their to oppose or condole with the deceased.

Re: # 207 SR

yes thick plotens

Re: # 202

HP Sahib,

You have answered your own question. All the top posts are taken by PPP workers and stalwarts. And like Fatima Bhutto I too pray that PPP has seen the end of its rule by hereditery rights.

Re: # 204

you seem like a sensible person, what has gotten into you, supporting these losers. If you remeber Na Pak fouj and their media was reporting fath-e-mubeen until the mid day December 16, 1971. Do you remeber that desolate area? The politics over there is ailing the "new pakistan" like a cancer to this day.

Whodunit

Okay, I've been following all the theories and leads about who was behind getting rid of BB... So far no one seems to have mentioned the REAL culprits, although masadi has come a bit closer than the others. zeemax and urstruly are also on the right track, but they still have some way to go... then we have the rest of the pack, running like a herd of blind zeebras, each touting his/her favorite suspects ... although the Parsi angle could have some merit to it...

Don't believe any of the kooks and cranks or their theories when the truth is as obvious as the hooters on Dolly Parton.

The killers of Princess Pinky are the same evil gang who murdered Princess Diana.

It was done by the Illuminati ... at the behest of Prince Phillip, the Duke of Windsor.

Plain and simple. Yes, that's right. The Freemasons have their filthy paw-prints all over the crime scene.

What? Don't believe me? Then see the following for yourself:

These first three skits are just a prepration for the masterpiece that follows them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbZ83zF3jLU&feature=related
http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXLZR8pliLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omtkqmaS3o A

Having watched the above three skits you are now ready for the comprehensive "research study" that gives "absolute convincing proof"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsDNoSQBAC8&feature=related

If you followed all that, you will naturally now be convinced that BB was done in by them also.

...SR

Interesting spin on this saga.....

http://www.thestate.com/135/story/282678.html


New reports only deepen controversy surrounding Bhutto’s assassination

By SAEED SHAH AND JONATHAN S. LANDAY - McClatchy Newspapers

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Two new reports on the assassination last month of Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto suggest that the killing may have been an ambitious plot rather than an isolated act of violence and that the government of President Pervez Musharraf knows far more than it has admitted about the murder.

A police officer who witnessed the assassination said that a mysterious crowd stopped Bhutto’s car that day, moving her to emerge through the sunroof. And a document has surfaced in the Pakistani news media that contradicts the government’s version of her death and contains details on the pistol and the suicide bomb used in the murder.

The witness was Ishtiaq Hussain Shah of the Rawalpindi police. As Bhutto’s car headed onto Rawalpindi’s Liaquat Road after an election rally Dec. 27, a crowd appeared from nowhere and stopped the motorcade, shouting slogans of her Pakistan Peoples Party and waving party banners, according to his account.

Bhutto, apparently thinking she was greeting her supporters, emerged through the sunroof of the bulletproof car to wave.

It was Shah’s job to clear the way for the motorcade. But 10 feet from where he was standing, a man in the crowd wearing a jacket and sunglasses raised his arm and shot at the former prime minister.

“I jumped to overpower him,” the deputy police superintendent said later. “A mighty explosion took place soon afterwards.”

Shah suffered multiple injuries and is recuperating in a Rawalpindi military hospital, guarded by agents of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence directorate.

Who organized the crowd is only one of the mysteries two weeks after the assassination.

“I don’t know who they were or from where they came,” the Rawalpindi officer told Dawn newspaper. “They just appeared on the road.”

The second report emerged in the Pakistani media, with detailed information about the pistol and bomb. It rejects the government’s conclusion that Bhutto died when the force of the suicide blast threw her head against the sunroof lever of her car. Such an impact couldn’t have fractured her skull, it said. The government refused to confirm the report’s authenticity, but a security official verified it to McClatchy. He spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

According to the report, a pistol made by Norinco, a Chinese brand, was recovered from the scene, with the lot number 311-90. An MUV-2 triggering mechanism for the bomb also was found, as had been used in 15 previous suicide bombings in Pakistan, with the same lot number and factory code.

“It is a clear indicator that the same terrorist group is involved in almost all these incidents,” concluded the report, which was quoted at length in the Pakistani daily newspaper The News.

Another mystery of the case is why so valuable a report has been buried. Among its other conclusions: Bhutto’s assassin, after shooting her, detonated his own suicide belt. No ambulance was called, and it took 25 minutes to get her to the hospital, only two miles from the scene.

Bhutto, and her security adviser Rehman Malik, had complained repeatedly that she was given inadequate official security, including mobile phone jammers that didn’t work and less than the four-vehicle escort that she thought was needed to protect the four corners of her car.

In an e-mail to her U.S. lobbyist, Mark Siegel, in late October, Bhutto wrote that if anything happened to her “I would hold Musharraf responsible,” in addition to four individuals she named as plotting to kill her in a letter sent to Musharraf on Oct. 16.

There was no security cordon around Bhutto — who had escaped a suicide bombing attack Oct. 18, the day she returned to Pakistan from self-imposed exile abroad — as she left the park in Rawalpindi. The crime scene was cleared immediately and hosed down, destroying vital evidence. Doctors at the hospital where she was taken, who announced the night it happened that she’d died of bullet wounds to the head and neck, changed their story the next day. There was no autopsy.

Musharraf’s government has stuck to its explanation that Bhutto died when she hit her head on the sunroof’s lever after the bomb went off, despite the emergence of several videos that show the gunman firing, then Bhutto disappearing into her vehicle before the blast. Officials also turned up what they said was a transcript of a telephone conversation between the supposed masterminds — militant Islamists allied with the Taliban — congratulating each other, the next day.

Scotland Yard detectives, whom Musharraf called in under pressure from home and abroad, have been told that they’re to investigate only the cause of death, not the killer’s identity. “Providing clarity regarding

‘The precise cause of Ms. Bhutto’s death’ is said to be the principal purpose of the deployment,” said Aidan Liddle, a spokesman for the British High Commission in Islamabad.

To many in Pakistan, it all raises questions about whether the government was complicit in the assassination. To others, it points at the very least to a concerted attempt to hide the massive extent of a security failure.

Bhutto’s own private-security arrangements seemed poor, chaotic and amateurish. Armored cars are not fitted with sunroofs. Hers was modified in Karachi against all safety advice, according to a security company that operates in that city but spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject. After Bhutto’s death, her husband made the startling revelation that she’d been guarded by men he’d met in prison.

“Both the state and the internal security of the Pakistan Peoples Party failed miserably,” said Masood Sharif Khattak, who was the head of the Intelligence Bureau, Pakistan’s top civilian intelligence agency, while Bhutto was prime minister and now is retired. “But state responsibility (for her security) stands first and foremost.”

“The fact that there are so many suicide bombings taking place in the country, and the security and intelligence apparatus is unable to prevent them, only leads to one conclusion: The jihadists have enablers within the system that allow them to do their stuff,” said Kamran Bokhari of Strategic Forecasting, a consultancy based in Austin, Texas.

“We’re not talking high-level officials, just people at midlevel, but mostly junior, who could provide them with logistics to operate.”

Musharraf has denied that government agencies are involved at any level.

One of the most widely suspected forces behind Bhutto’s assassination, al-Qaida, hasn’t claimed responsibility. The Pakistani militant whom the government has blamed, Baitullah Mehsud, has denied it. Mehsud is a 34-year-old tribal leader in the lawless Waziristan region, in the northwest, who’s emerged as the leader of Pakistan’s version of the Taliban.

Dr. Farzana Shaikh, associate fellow at the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, said: “If they (al-Qaida) are intent on weakening Musharraf and his regime, they could do no better than this. For them to simply leave room open for speculation, much of which has centered on government complicity, would be a very clever move.”

“That people are willing to believe this is a very telling reflection of the declining credibility of the Musharraf regime.”

RED ALERT FOR ALL K's - especially those in Lahore.

hamidm - cancel pakistans trip.

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1100331392& ; ;Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20080113

The Swat issue is in the army control. They created it, nurtured it, and when they wish it will close out. Besides that Swat has no influence on Pakistani politics it is a desolate area with little population. The havyoons hopes of turning Swat into some national campaign are nothing more than pipe dreams. Their hallucination would never stop.

Re: # 198

yes, i must admit that, since the day na pak fouj has "reformed" the media, the quality of news have improved exponentially, and so is the performance of fouj in swat etc. Now no day goes by without the news of the glorious victories of our fouj. So the real culprits were not swatis but our media who was hell bent on defeating fouj.

As far as rest of the world bombing the hawayoon is concerned, that "bring it on" monkey had had his day with "shock and awe". Their propaganda machinery may still show that supermen are stopping raging trains but rest of the world knows very well that they have been humbled into being bheegi billi.