Pakistan's Flawed and Feudal Princess

#129 Posted by hamidm2,

This post does not deserve a response.

#138 kamath: Given the disgusting attitude towards minorities in India - including things that Pakistanis dont do, like forming mobs to attack minorities in their homes - by your kind of hindu chauvinists, your post is hypocritical.

Reflect on that, and once you have realized your problem, then come back and talk about Pakistan.

#132 Posted by hamidm2,

Neither does this one.

ana #142 I was just trying to be funny (no match for hamidm though I admit, and certainly no match for the unintentionaly funny ones on chowk). Welcome back to chowk after a long absence which I am sure was spent doing good works. :-)

zeemax,

... calm down ! .......... you are letting your new found love with your faith get in the way of decency and plain old common sense ........ all these 'baazari' consipiracy theories are beneath a man of your upbringing and education ......... don't follow in the path of osama and ayman - you are dangerously close to crossing over to the dark side .......

#137 Posted by tahmed32,

There are Punjabi assassins, and Pashtuns, and Urdu-speaking, But the best are the Christians ... totally professional, and deliver. That's all I said.

Please don't distort nor threaten my relationship with people like PM and Ijaz_Gul on Chowk.

ana may think what she likes. I don't know her and have never interacted with her, and I don't care. But the former two are my great friends and I wish you would not jeopardize my relationship with them over a simple fact.

#142 Posted by ana,

Blasphemy laws apply not only to Muhammad but to Yassuh Masih as well.

But guess you didn't know that.

So stop your effing moralizing. You know nothing about Islam and are just a bimbo from St Joseph's Convent.

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zeemax: Far be it from me to ruin beautiful friendships on chowk (and ijazgul is a fine fellow, and although i have reservations about PM on certain issues as he well knows). but excuse me - you dragged in the christians into the arena. As a member of the majority community in Pakistan, I think i did the right thing in bringing this to your attention.

and an assassin is an assassin. Dont lose focus - the real demons facing Pakistan are the forces of lawlessness (whether hiding in caves in south waziristan or in green zones in Rawalpindi/Pakistan. When you point to innocent Pakistanis, these terrorists win.

On top of that - Your president goes on international TV and announces that it's her own fault she was killed... just like he blamed women being raped as their own plan to get canadian visa....

And now you want 'dignity'?... ha ha...

#149 Posted by hamidm2,

Thanks for the advice my friend hamidm2, which is certainly sincere as I can see.

I am not heading into any darkness. In fact I'm thinking of vacationing in Aacapulco while Pakistan is burning, because I can't prevent that happening.

I'm smarter than you think.

zeemax:

I am not in Lahore right now. Are you?

What you have described about the Defense Thana is not beyond the realm of disbelief, afterall, corruption is rampant, but I still would not have taken this to the so-called logical conclusion that you did. Nor do I buy the "detail" or "fact" that the "Christian assasins" are the best.

Anyway, I have to go to work now. . .


And no, Zeemax, I did not go to a convent school called St. Joseph's. I went to a school in Lahore where the majority of the students were Muslim. And I knew Muslim girls I could call my best friends. Where was the moralizing in what I said earlier? You can spin your conspiracies but when I tell you that I know Christians who have been beaten up in Lahore for saying amongst a group of Muslims that Jesus is the son of God, you accuse me of moralizing and call me a bimbo? Wah ji wah. My facts make me an effin' bimbo, and yours make you the king of the hill. That is truly frightening. . . .

Good luck in your world.

Re: # 154


The way Mush tried to paint the assasination with lever theory is a give away . Also, his blaming BB for her assasination is also a give away that he was sure happy with it!!


I feel that Mush had some deal with the ex-ISI Generals who are actually the middle men for Talibani jirgas, Al-Qaeda leaders and the existing Pak Army!!! Mush also benefitted from the assasination by avenging the humilaition of being forced to announce elections and stepping down as Army chief due to unrelenting pressure by BB.
I am dead sure that this is a Hamid Gul conceived operation conducted by Al Qaeda with a go ahead by Mush.

#153 Posted by tahmed32,

Why do you want to exclude the Christians? Are they not Pakistanis? When I mentioned Christians, it was in the same breath as anyone else. It is YOU Sir, who is painting Christians as a minority while I don't. They are my best friends and just like Punjabi or Pashtuns or any other. I don't regard them as a minority - period. Never thought of them as one till you guys point it out. There never was a bigger Hero of Pakistan than Cecil Chaudhry in war, or the Benjamin Sisters in culture/music scene. Do you think I don't know how valuable the Christians are to Pakistan?

I resent this attempt at painting me as some sort of a sectarian.

OK Back to theorising.
The pistol used was a 7.62 mm or .303" chinese automatic weapon. Unlike the Colt or Walther it has a high velocity bullet and longer range. It is smaller in size and hence easy to conceal. Having seen the original camera video and run it from frame to frame and worked on layers in photoshop, as well as used the sound wave frequency on the digital player, there were three pistol shots and then a bang. I posted the three best pics on chowk. The second Pic has her hair fluttering.In two of the cases, BBs Hair and Duppatta fluttered and then she fell. Marks of one of the bullet can still be seen across the road between two windows of a double story building. Police say, they found a used bullet near the traffic signal on Murree Road.

As I opined earlier, the big wound on the right is probably because the bullet hit at a tangent and entry/exit points were close by.

These bullets can be made more lethal by sawing off their tip or putting a cross. They become what is called DUM DUM. As they enter and spin, their wake tears tissues, rotates them and make a big exit hole. They are banned under Geneva Convention.
If there was another shooter, the sound does not appear. If he used a silencer, then he could not use a sniper rifle, because its bullet breaks the sound barrier and there is a loud sound. Hence probability of another shooter lies only with a high velocity pistol like a mauser plus a Silencer. Even in this case. the range cannot be more than 50 yards.

As for me, I rule out a second shooter. I have no doubt that the clean shaven man got his target and the suicide bomber his.

Re: # 155

zeemax,

..... i know better people who have crossed over to the dark side ........ i know of convent educated sons and daughters who have left their parents, their siblings, their wives and their children to join the forces of darkness like the tableeghi jamaat ..... i know a ivy league graduate who said goodbye to his cousins telling them that he would not be seeing them any more since they were non-mehrams ...... i know a guy who drives a mercedes 500S but threw out all the furnitiure in his house and now his guests sit on the floor, eating with their fingers and burping like the followers of some bedouin prophet ........

........ it can happen, so be careful ...... you are on a slippery slope .......