Ras Siddiqui January 13, 2008
#17 Posted by zeemax on January 15, 2008 5:49:04 am
#16 Posted by MeraPakistan,
I guess the movie was not intended to go into detail. It is not a documentary. It is the usual mix of sex, violence and dramatic events.
It is true that without the Pakistani military advisers assigned with each Mujahideen group, the Soviets would not have been defeated.
I guess the movie was not intended to go into detail. It is not a documentary. It is the usual mix of sex, violence and dramatic events.
It is true that without the Pakistani military advisers assigned with each Mujahideen group, the Soviets would not have been defeated.
#18 Posted by tahmed32 on January 15, 2008 6:32:35 am
I am glad they picked the ugliest actor in the world (this Indian actor who seems to love portraying himself as Pakistani as in his previous film East Meets West or something as well) as Zia. Hope General Jabra the Hut is hopping mad in hell (where he no doubt is) upon learning about this.
#19 Posted by Faisal.K on January 15, 2008 10:35:24 am
The movie turned a little hollow when they started showing Charlie willing to help the afghans only because of his humane side. The whole world knows that American policy in this specific was as it is in others is purely motivated by their own self interest. Nothing humane about strategic planning.
Good acting by Clancy and the others...but a bit frivolous
Good acting by Clancy and the others...but a bit frivolous
#20 Posted by Faisal.K on January 15, 2008 10:36:42 am
The movie turned a little hollow when they started showing Charlie willing to help the afghans only because of his humane side. The whole world knows that American policy in this specific was as it is in others is purely motivated by their own self interest. Nothing humane about strategic planning.
Good acting by Tom Hanks and the others...but a bit frivolous
Good acting by Tom Hanks and the others...but a bit frivolous
#21 Posted by ana on January 15, 2008 11:45:40 am
Tahmed ji:
Om Puri in your opinion may be the ugliest actor, but he's a bloody good one and Punjabi to boot, so Old Surma-eyes might not be so hopping mad in hell afterall. :D
Om Puri in your opinion may be the ugliest actor, but he's a bloody good one and Punjabi to boot, so Old Surma-eyes might not be so hopping mad in hell afterall. :D
#22 Posted by HP on January 15, 2008 12:01:39 pm
We used to have a culture where these alqab like Mian and Ji were non existent. I think this Ji and Mian and bhai are alien alqabs and people should stay away from them.
Whats wrong with Bhoav, murse, or simple Tahmed sahib?
Btw, Tahemd ji aiya noon was commenting on the ugliness and not on the acting talent. The guy is butt ugly and there is no doubt that he fit the part (zia) well. Btw, I have not seen the movie. I dont know why they had to pay Om puri, they could have hired Hamid...I heard he is plenty ugly and that even for a Pindiwal Pathan is strange!
Whats wrong with Bhoav, murse, or simple Tahmed sahib?
Btw, Tahemd ji aiya noon was commenting on the ugliness and not on the acting talent. The guy is butt ugly and there is no doubt that he fit the part (zia) well. Btw, I have not seen the movie. I dont know why they had to pay Om puri, they could have hired Hamid...I heard he is plenty ugly and that even for a Pindiwal Pathan is strange!
#23 Posted by masadi on January 15, 2008 12:21:48 pm
HP writes "Whats wrong with Bhoav, murse, or simple Tahmed sahib?"
Mian ji you need to give this fool the HELL that he deserves, you know 100% where he is coming from, from the spot where the sun dont shine
Mian ji you need to give this fool the HELL that he deserves, you know 100% where he is coming from, from the spot where the sun dont shine
#24 Posted by masadi on January 15, 2008 12:21:56 pm
HP writes "Whats wrong with Bhoav, murse, or simple Tahmed sahib?"
Mian ji you need to give this fool the HELL that he deserves, you know 100% where he is coming from, from the spot where the sun dont shine
Mian ji you need to give this fool the HELL that he deserves, you know 100% where he is coming from, from the spot where the sun dont shine
#25 Posted by ana on January 15, 2008 12:28:01 pm
HP sahib: I had no idea "ji" was an alien alqab! I grew up using this in Lahore mostly with elders like grandparents, uncles, aunts. . . I should definitely try to kick the habit. . .
Vaisay, I know he was commenting on the acting talent, I just thought I'd be contrary for the fun of it. :)
Masadi: I do not think I have ever interacted with you, but I know of your distate for Tauheed sahib. Having said that HP was being critical of me for how I addressed Tahmed, and not Tauheed. If you did not get that, I think you need to reread your post. Unless you feel you must express your disgust even when he is remotely involved.
Vaisay, I know he was commenting on the acting talent, I just thought I'd be contrary for the fun of it. :)
Masadi: I do not think I have ever interacted with you, but I know of your distate for Tauheed sahib. Having said that HP was being critical of me for how I addressed Tahmed, and not Tauheed. If you did not get that, I think you need to reread your post. Unless you feel you must express your disgust even when he is remotely involved.
#27 Posted by HP on January 15, 2008 12:55:35 pm
ana,
We used to make fun of people "mian ji" you remember that!
Growing up, I used to hear this "mian" stuff in certain circles but "ji" is new. I guess indian movies have contributed to that, Haan Ji!
Asadi, Calm down now don't be a pest! Tahmed is a fine gentleman you need to stop bothering him. That is really not right and you are sometimes just harrasing him for nothing!
Gustakhi ki Mazrat!
We used to make fun of people "mian ji" you remember that!
Growing up, I used to hear this "mian" stuff in certain circles but "ji" is new. I guess indian movies have contributed to that, Haan Ji!
Asadi, Calm down now don't be a pest! Tahmed is a fine gentleman you need to stop bothering him. That is really not right and you are sometimes just harrasing him for nothing!
Gustakhi ki Mazrat!
#28 Posted by ana on January 15, 2008 1:10:50 pm
HP: I always thought that ji was very much a part of Punjab culture because I heard it used so much, even in Punjabi, like "aaho ji!" The point where I begin to make fun of it is when it sounds sycophantic like "mian ji" Anyway. . .
#29 Posted by HP on January 15, 2008 1:44:33 pm
ana,
You don't get it. That Haan ji, wah ji, aao ji, maal banao ji, khao ji, peo ji are different than mian ji.They are not alqabs...
You don't get it. That Haan ji, wah ji, aao ji, maal banao ji, khao ji, peo ji are different than mian ji.They are not alqabs...
#30 Posted by masadi on January 15, 2008 1:49:03 pm
ana "Unless you feel you must express your disgust even when he is remotely involved. "
True, I must do that because that "fine Gentleman" (extremely disappointing HP mian), does not spare any remote opportunity to sing the praises of the white man and stab our folk in the behind. Such disgusting people truly disgust me and to let the people know my feelings about them is a service....
True, I must do that because that "fine Gentleman" (extremely disappointing HP mian), does not spare any remote opportunity to sing the praises of the white man and stab our folk in the behind. Such disgusting people truly disgust me and to let the people know my feelings about them is a service....
#31 Posted by masadi on January 15, 2008 1:50:29 pm
to let the people know my feelings about them is a service....provided free of charge
#32 Posted by chaltahai on January 15, 2008 2:01:38 pm
Ana, you see, Masadi is what you call a reject of the pakistani and american educational system. Poor guy got kicked out of every place he ever tried to attach himself to. A little community college in kansas, a lil university in Pakistan. the experience has rendered him bitter and confused about who he is. He currently thinks he is the love child of Krushchev and Mohammed. (but always in a bad safari suit).
From what I remember about you, you could offer to teach him a few things about economics and politics but I am not sure he is capable of learning. Something to do with the "love child" thing, I mentioned above. :-)
From what I remember about you, you could offer to teach him a few things about economics and politics but I am not sure he is capable of learning. Something to do with the "love child" thing, I mentioned above. :-)
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