US Conspiracy to Destablize Pakistan?

damn - I swear its chowk software ....

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Let him say it to his hearts content - tereko kya pharakh - han

HP has an interesting sense of humour. Move on, is what I would recommend.

Re: # 432arey, Anil Sahib why are you so het up abut these words. HP could be an ignorant little man if he said it - it might be giving him some mometary pleasure in deriding hindus.

Are you any one of these? If not, then whats your problem.

Re: # 427

Hamidm Sahib:

This is beginning of a shift in world's economic balance. As far as the U.S. is concerned, it can be quite like the crisis of Pound Sterling in late sixties. Once that was over, British Pound was no more a currency for International trade. The U.K. was on the retreat from basis in Singapore, in Aden, in Simonstwon South Africa and a few others.

I will not be surprise if we will see similar phenomenon here, especially there are EU, China, Russia Brazil and Indian jumbos ready to be in the air. I read somewhere that India has world's 4th largest reserves, I could not verify it.

Countries economy is much like your own checking account. If the economy is managed badly, is like you writing more checks and your keep putting money from your other savings and investment accounts. In global sense, these are foreign sovereign reserves, or large financial institutions holding the U.S. treasury bonds, and publicly traded stocks. A point comes as with your personal account, that use of these "reserves" will be higher than what is called as debt capacity, and performance. Debt Capacity is something that measure how much one can safely borrow, and is based on leverage and cash flows. In nations case it cash flow. Performance is who well the "paper" performs, be it a bond or be it a stock.

Given changing scenarios, competitive environment will become more dominant. Bombing Iraq may never work in the future to corner resources as the bargain basement prices. Instead the most efficient, productive and with superior technological advantage would win. Old methods of securing raw materials, labor, and energy through colonial model would not work.

For a long time to come I believe, the U.S. system will have advantage on the above three counts. How long the U.S. has it, is not clear. After all Americans have their innings, time is coming for America to share with others. It is through global partnership that the U.S., the largest force on the block, will bring growth and prosperity.

Although I remember a case study Xerox in 60s, when it was common to talk that Xerox has 20 year lead over the nearest competition from Japan. Things changed much shorter time. Now copiers are associated with Japanese branch. Xerox is reduced to a document company. They mismanaged their own technology, and Steve Jobs gave McIntosh to the world, from this swiped technology from XEROX PARC. Therefore, a lot of these advantages disappear.

What must be American value proposition needs to be reinvented?

It just cannot be consuming offshore products, or even bringing those old manufacturing back on shore. It possibly could be creating economy based on alternative fuels, in integrating the world's commerce, and education systems. Taking what is good American values and systems to the world. There are still many natural advantages America has, water and farming land are two major. In next 20 years these too will play every important role.

My suggestion for retirement is to retire in Sausalito and enjoy San Francisco.

We are entering a very interesting phase.

The american dream - or rather fulfilment of potential or whatever zeemax is on about - is encapsulated by the McDonalds history (might be worth your while to visit the sight or go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald's).

It started as a sandwich shop started by two brothers (the Brothers McDonald) in 1940s in CA. Their first franchise was to a guy called ray Kroc (maybe that's where the term "what a load of croc" came into being!) in 1955 (Illinois). Today its turn makes many countries look small...a few figures might help

Revenue $21.5864 billion USD (2006)
Operating income $14.445 billion USD (2006)
Net income $3.544 billion USD (2006)
Employees 465,000 (2005)

And this from being a small sandwich shop selling what else ham burgers.

The whole world eats this stuff and they are a major food-producer - their farms producing beef, ham, lettuce etc.

This the can do attitude of americans at play - they have gone where no else went before (like Coke), like McD or hate McD you have to admire this sandwich shop becoming a global player of such proportions.

Not one desi or arabi will ever reach this heights - hence they will never be able to fulfil their potential!

Re: # 430

exactly !

#429 Posted by hamidm2

Ah! the wise man of the east...You know I never disagree with you...More power to Puerto ricans and J-lo!

Btw, Mexico's economy is a whole lot better than Pakistan's. Maybe Pakistan should be in line for takeover before Mexico. is that right?
Mexico's economy is equal to Illinois in numbers and Pakistan's is equal to Arkansas!

Re: # 427 Posted by hamidm2 on January 23, 2008 9:40:08 am

[bubba,

.. that is a scary thought - who came up with this brilliant idea ? .... the investment bankers ?]

Henry Paulson, of course. Who else could be that devious? The ex-Goldman Sachs guy, duhh!

And this was in context to the financial war suggestion.

[... so you are saying that once the dollar drops to the level of the chinese yuan all the construction workers in the us will be employed at a dollar a day making chopsticks that they can export back to china ? ]

Of course this is just a theoretical suggestion. But, to bring back a lot of manufacturing jobs back the US has to get rid of the healthcare cost from individual cars and onto the society (hence, talk of universal health care costs). To bring back some more USD from abroad, it is better to have all US management finesse sold to aspiring third world countries (without actually sending anybody over their or hiring from the local economy), etc.

All of these are part and parcel of the financial war. O! yes, then we must have cheaper oil or a new hydrocarbon law. We give OPEC cheap paper and get their oil. Can all this be G.W.’s brilliance or some wall street white guy. Under Clinton it was Rubin, and now we have Henry Paulson, of course.

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Re: # 425 Posted by HP on January 23, 2008 9:37:45 am

[This is a strange logic to prove the US take over of the Mexican lands.]

Your knowledge of this particular history is wrong. The US did not take over Mexican lands.

Mexican government invited the white people from the then US to develop the northern frontier and give many huge swathes of land that included all of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and some parts of Colorado to areas touching the Canadian border. Some of the new land owners were Mexicans as well. The Mexican government promised the new owners not to tax these barren lands. Later on, however, the Mexican King changed their agreement with the new settlers and demanded taxes these lands. This new Mexican taxation led to war between the new landowners (both whites and mexicans) and the government. The Mexican General Santa Ana was routed near San Jacinto (close to Galvestan, Texas), and these new owners claimed a new country called Texas.

There was no US on these lands at that time.

Iran or Japan..hamidm.

Re: # 425

hp,

.... like the puerto ricans (the sane ones) i can support the takeover of pakistan by the us ....... and if i was a mexican i would definitely support a takeover by the us ..... would you rather live in san diego or tijuana, laredo or nuevo laredo, el paso or ciudad juarez ? ...... let us not have silly emotions stand in the way of better judgement .....

SOme should tell masadi that there is no US elite and there are actually six very very smart mice (not jews) sitting on the board of Rothchild that control the world.

Re: # 422

bubba,

... so you are saying that once the dollar drops to the level of the chinese yuan all the construction workers in the us will be employed at a dollar a day making chopsticks that they can export back to china ? .... that is a scary thought - who came up with this brilliant idea ? .... the investment bankers ?

Also, you say :

(as in case of 9/11 hijackers)

How come 6 of those 19 hijackers are still alive but FBI has not revised its list?

The Harvard Business School Graduate (with an email address to prove.hehehehe) shows the signs of the graduation in abuse. You don't expect more from sandwich shop operators and I will leave this to Chowk staff to take care of that!

Tahmed,
"Even the mexicans themselves are streaming into California today to escape the miserable conditions in mexico."

This is a strange logic to prove the US take over of the Mexican lands. Should we ask Brits and the American to take over Pakistan and India because both Indians and Pakistani are lining up to get US and other western visas, to escape the conditions in those countries? Or perhaps we should give Pakistan to Dubai because Pakistanis are trying to get in that country illegally almost daily?

#421 Posted by tahmed32,

Yes tahmed saheb, the 'Final Charge' is all about 'Manifest Destiny'. And no, it hasn't been fulfilled yet, nor it will be (but that's another debate).