Afghanistan - A Strategic Analysis

#519 and 520,
FYI, I am a Telugu from Andhra. I asked those questions just out of curiosity and i am not Brahmin too. I am interested in the history of Telugu people in TN, thats why i asked.

I understand that Brahmins in TN suffer due to the reservations. But so much bitterness towards your fellow citizens is not going to do any good for you.

Ref vengatramanan #498

[Harimau,

No doubt, the rest of the population hates you. Afterall you were the guys who tried to introduce 'Kula Kalvi Thittam'. Don't whine.

For the uninitiated in Tamil 'Kula Kalvi Thittam' is a scheme that necessitated people to learn and practice the business their castes had been doing. In a nutshell they wanted
1. A Scavenger's son to learn scavenging and not Physics
2. A Barber's son to learn hair-dressing and not anything else
3. A famer's son to be a farmer

They wanted the rest of the living things to live for the Brahmins and this idea was mooted by Rajaji. BTW Rajaji's mother tongue was Tamil and Periyar's mother tongue was not Tamil.]

Are you sure Rajaji's mother tongue was Tamil and not Sanskrit? After all, he was an Iyengar brahmin.

As to "Kula Kalvi", don't we have Karunanidhi's son Stalin being groomed for Chief Ministership and his illegitimate daughter Kanimozhi (literally, "Sweet Words") already nominated to the Rajya Sabha as an MP and being touted for a ministry in the Central Cabinet? Is "Kula Kalvi" to be reserved only for politicians' children?

What is wrong with education where somebody actually learns a trade? Do you know that so many carpenters, plumbers and other laborers have left for greener pastures elsewhere (sorry for using idiomatic English; Saudi Arabia is certainly not green and certainly not a pasture) that only very few available in Tamil Nadu? Are you afraid unemployed men and women wouldn't be available to attend political rallies if people actually learnt a trade and started making money?

As to education being made available to all so that people can move up, how about showing me one Chettiar who gave up moneylending and went into farming alongside the Pallans and Parayans (SCs) of Tamil Nadu? If everyone moved up, who is going to farm? Is there anyone other than a Palli actually transplanting rice plants in the flooded fields?

By the way, most Chettiars are Golts who have bled the Pallans and Parayans dry through usurious interest.

[Rajaji became the Chief minister due to a constitutional impropriety in 1952.In the 1952 elections Congress Party was reduced to a minority in the State Assembly and the Communist Party of India led coalition appeared to be in a better position to form the Government.[4] But Governor Sri Prakasa nominated Rajaji to the Legislative Council without the advice of the council of ministers and the selection of a nominated member as Chief Minister and further majority was obtained by luring opposition MLA[5] to join the party and Nehru was furious and wrote to Rajaji that" the one thing we must avoid giving is the impression that we stick to office and we want to keep others out at all costs"[6][7] Rajaji refused to contest a bye election and remained a non elected member."]

Can you tell me from which Lok Sabha constituency your Prime MInister, Manmohan Singh the Neutered, got elected?

Since you don't know the answer, here is the information:

Singh lost the election in the Lok Sabha from South Delhi constituency in the 1999 general elections. He is thus the only Indian Prime Minister never to have been an elected member of the Lower House of Parliament. In fact he has not won a direct election. He has been a member of the Rajya Sabha from Assam since 1995. He was re-elected to the Rajya Sabha in 2001 and 2007.

Ref masanamuthu #507

[{Vengatramanan:

Please don't club me with Harimau. I consider that an insult.}

Apologies. that was not my intention.]

Hey, he will lose out on his quota admission to professional education if doesn't have a caste certificate certifying him to be an MBC/OBC/BC.

He will be truly insulted only if you called him SC.

SCs are the niggers of India.

(For those who have only a functioning brain stem and are quick to flag this post for objectionable content, that is a paraphrase of the statement "Women are the niggers of the world" attributed to Yoko Ono and former Beatle John Lennon.)

Ref SRK #511

[Vengatramanan,
What is the mother tongue of Periyar? Is he Marathi or Telugu? What caste group does he belong to? I am just curious to know more about him.]

Do you expect honest answers from a Golti pretending to be a True-Green Tamil who denounces brahmins -- who have lived longer in Tamil Nadu than his forebear -- as invaders? Surely you have more sense than that!

Periyar (Great Man), or Thanthai Periyar (Father Great Man) as he is reverently called by the Masanamuthus of Tamil Nadu went by the real name of E. V. Ramaswamy Naicker. Naicker is in reality the caste name 'Naik' and he is from a Karnnada family settled in Erode, Tamil Nadu. His mother tongue was Kannada. While he denounced the Ramayana and gave names such as Ravana and Surpanakha to the children of his adoring followers -- these morons actually asked him to name their babies and paid him good money to do so -- he never went to the trouble of getting his own name changed to Ravanaswamy through a court order. This would have caused no confusion to the public because he was known only as EVR to them and as Periyar to his adoring fans of Masanamuthus.

Among his various statements, the only one that seems to be inscribed on pedestals of his statues is "There is no God. He who believes in God is a fool". In every town, at least one statue of Periyar can be seen with this statement.

However, since the Masanamuthus currently are the Guardians of Tamil Nadu, they conveniently ignore the fact that Periyar said, "Tamil is a barbarous language. Tamilians are barbarians". Vengatramanan, being a Golti, is in full agreement with this sentiment but the Masanamuthus of Tamil Nadu cannot handle the massive cognitive dissonance caused by the acceptance of such a statement and their own rabid support of the Tamil language. So they ignore Periyar's statement about the Tamil language.

Periyar was equally dismissive of Tamil literature. About Kannagi, the heroine of the Tamil epic "Silappathikaram", he asked why that woman stayed with her husband who spent years ignoring her and gallivanting around with the call-girl Madhavi.

He was trying to overturn social mores in India. But since his orations were in Tamil, only the Masanamuthus of Tamil Nadu understood what he said and have followed him. He opined that true liberation of women would come about only when women were free to change male partners as frequently and as conveniently as changing their clothes. He also said that men and women should be free to have sex whenever, wherever and with whomever they want, much like beasts in nature do. This of course has been misinterpreted by folks genetically incapable of passing aptitude tests -- and by this I mean the SC/ST/BC/MBC/OBC categories of people -- to mean that they should have sex with beasts. Not that they needed his encouragement. They have been doing that for millennia instead of trying to find answers to fundamental questions like "What is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its radius?" or "What is the distance between the Earth and the Moon?" which were discovered by brahmins.

[Also, as far as i know even Karunanidhi's lineage traces back to Telugu speaking families. Is that correct. Someone told me he belongs to either Devdasi or barber caste.]

You are correct about the mother tongue of Karunanidhi being Telugu. He calls himself an Isai Vellalar, which is a gentrification of the caste of melakkarans, those who play the nagaswaram (a shehnai-like instrument). The male children of devadasis were taught nagaswaram and thavil (a percussion instrument) and the daughters of course went into the family business if you know what I mean. The whole business of Devadasis was imported into Tamil Nadu from Goltland, sorry, Andhra Pradesh. The Devadasis were originally primarily Goltis. After several generations, if Karunanidhi (a purely Sanskrit name meaning the Fund of Compassion) can claim to be the Guardian of the Tamil Language, I cannot understand why someone who ACTUALLY did something to save Tamil literature -- such as U. V. Swaminatha Iyer who rescued and published over 120 obscure Tamil literary works including the Great Epics Silappathikaram and Jeevaka Chinthamani about which Karunanidhi and the Masanamuthus practically have orgasms -- cannot be considered a Guardian of the Tamil Language. But then U. V. Swaminatha Iyer was a brahmin and is thus automatically excluded from any such consideration.

Welcome to the Reality Distortion Field called Tamil Nadu.

masadi #510 there is nothing evasive in challenging you to back your claims regarding my views by telling you to cut and paste what I wrote. What is evasive is your writing lengthy, acrimonious posts in response, but without being able to back your claims.

fakirippi: Those were very clever posts. Are you so clever all day long, or only in the morning?

pavocavalry: Thanks.

masadi: So - you lied again when you wrote "You are also a barbarian who supported the US carnage in Iraq". And when challenged to substantiate your accusations by cutting and pasting anything I had written, you failed as before.


Thus proving yourself to be not just a mere habitual liar, but a shameless, habitual liar. Last post to you on this board.

No doubt you will lie again, and I shall then expose you again, on some other board.

Re: # 508 I THINK THIS t ahmed is a Qadiani from LAHORI group.

THE PUNJABIS ARE HOPELESS , SIMPLY HOPELESS

PAVO CAVALRY I LIKED UR FOLLOWING POST ON KHALID BHATTI THAT PUNJABI CHAUVINITS ARTICLE:--

the pashtuns of tribal areas are not what Mr Jinnah the founder of Pakistan called "hopeless Punjabis" .You Punjabis were 90 % of Punjab and the Sikhs were using your Badshahi Mosque of Lahore as a Horse Stable and ypu Punjabis had invented the shuttle cock burqa so that your fair sex are not abducted by the Sikhs at will.And the knight in shining armour General Sir Hugh Gough of Bengal Army of English East India Company saved u Punjabi Muslims from being deflowered by the Sikhs.

You Punjabi Muslims cannot be compared with the indomitable tribals.

You Punjabi Muslim troops fored even at the Holy Kabaa.

Azeem Hussain son of Sir Fazl i Hussian himself a Punjabi thus quoted Jinnah " THE PUNJAB IS A HOPELESS PLACE , I WILL NEVER VISIT IT AGAIN" . You Punjabi Lotus Eaters.

Vengatramanan,
What is the mother tongue of Periyar? Is he Marathi or Telugu? What caste group does he belong to? I am just curious to know more about him.

Also, as far as i know even Karunanidhi's lineage traces back to Telugu speaking families. Is that correct. Someone told me he belongs to either Devdasi or barber caste.

thanks

And by the way this evasive tactic of tahmed to fool the people here is nothing new he has done it before, his so called "I challenge you to show me where I said it", and in every instance I have pointed to his dimwitted posts and articles and he has put his tail between his legs and run away. He repeats this merely so that we can confirm again that he is a spineless immoral fool...

Re: # 478 my friend Indians lost the most important 2 days from 8th to 10th September without attacking.When 11 Cavalry came 1st armoured division also reinforced chawinda.read military history . 11 Cavalry was mistakenly deployed at phillaurah by sahibzada yaqub or some body else.yes , but you read my article on chawinda again or read gurbachan singhs account or major k.c pravals' account.its not my job to teach u military history.

tahmed writes ""You are also a barbarian who supported the US carnage in Iraq". This is another lie. A lie you have stated before, and when challenged failed to prove it by producing anything I wrote!!"

This person tahmed is a totally spineless, immoral liar. He does not even have the balls to own up to what he wrote. What I have written about his support of the US carnage in Iraq is to be found in i) his famous "Open letter to those opposing the Iraq war" in which he is cheerleading for the Iraq war of 2003 , the article he wrote can be found here http://www.chowk.com/articles/6036

and ii) his total lack of condemnation for US actions in Iraq that have caused the death of over a million since that time.

Regarding his pusing the Israeli line, even HP was shocked at his inhumanity back in 2006 and condemned this. You can ask him or do your post search yourself.

Regarding me lying, the best, and only so called "lie" this fool could produce was that I said "I know Zinn well", when earlier I had said "he knows me well" and both by the way are factual true statements.

Vengatramanan:

Please don't club me with Harimau. I consider that an insult.

Apologies. that was not my intention.