Afghanistan - A Strategic Analysis

masadi #499: you say "point to me one factual lie". I have done this several times in the past when you have lied, and challenged you to substantiate your accusations by cutting and pasting anything I have ever written on chowk the past several years I have been here. Each time you have failed, and instead try to cover up your failure to back your accusations by writing more lies and/or meaningless gibberish.

Let me nevertheless prove you to be a liar again. Your lie is in this very post!! Here it is: "You are also a barbarian who supported the US carnage in Iraq". This is another lie. A lie you have stated before, and when challenged failed to prove it by producing anything I wrote!!

So once again, I challenge you to back your accusation by cutting and pasting anything I ever wrote, including that article on Iraq. If you fail to meet this challenge to produce anything I have written to back this accusation, then you would have proved yourself yet again to be a liar. If, as before, you try to cover-up your inability to back up your lies with anything I have written, then as before you would have proved yourself to be not just a liar, but a shameless liar and hypocrite.

masadi #499: you say "point to me one factual lie". I have done this several times in the past and challenged you to substantiate your accusations by cutting and pasting anything I have ever written on chowk the past several years I have been here. Each time you have failed, and instead try to cover up your failure to back your accusations with more lies.

Let me nevertheless prove you to be a liar again. Your lie is in this very post!! Here it is: "You are also a barbarian who supported the US carnage in Iraq". This is another lie. A lie you have stated before, and when challenged failed to prove it by producing anything I wrote!!

So once again, I challenge you to back your accusation by cutting and pasting anything I ever wrote, including that article on Iraq. If you fail to meet this challenge to produce anything I have written to back this accusation, then you would have proved yourself yet again to be a liar. If, as before, you try to cover-up your inability to back up your lies with anything I have written, then as before you would have proved yourself to be not just a liar, but a shameless liar and hypocrite.

masadi #497: Your post is not even understandable. Which raises the question: Is a masadi post that is gibberish better than a masadi post that is at least written in something resembling a known human language, even if what is being written is hot air and lies? hmmmmm.......

Rape and carnage of the west the officially designated people of your book.

Rape and carnage of your own people all over the world well documented by Islamic historians.

So it all boils to these sick Semitic traditions which are scum political and megalomaniac philosophies masquerading as religion.

And yet the christies have tried to at least say sorry but what about you fkrs.

So there should be no tears for the rest of you. And of course in Iraq Saddam was in love with the Shiites thats why they he was making them beloved of the moon god. If the Muslai's are killing each other due to America more power to the Americans.

Sanatani

Re: # 501

Masadi,

This could be the reason for the slowness:

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/undersea-cable-fault-cripples-internet- in-india-mideast/57773-11.html

In #497 read "why my posts aren't coing " as "why my posts aren't coming

Santani to you complexion might be a joke even though your countrypeople are busy using "fair and lovely" but in the Western dominated world, and their history of rape and carnage of the majority world it has mattered a lot. Regarding the lighter complexion of AAs in the US power structure, that has been forced to incorporate them, this is well documented by William Domhoff in his power structure analysis- he is a well respected academic who has done a lot of empirical work regarding minorities in the US power structure that has been forced to incorporate the few there are post civil rights movement as part of the cooptation process. Get an education fool.

tahmed writes "As I said, while you are a mere joke on chowk, I know quite well individuals like you in Pakistan who love to spread lies about the US in order to pose as "intellectuals".

As usual the fluff man responds with fluff and nothing else. Point to me one factual lie, there are many US peons who hate me here and not one has been able to refute what I write because I try to keep as close to the known facts as possible. Regarding Musharraf, the Pakistan Army is not independant of US influence and the US wanted to strip his uniform for reasons I have clearly stated in earlier posts that is the only reason that you tahmed "converted" from being pro Musharraf to anti Musharraf, while others who are more honest stayed against the dictator and the Pakistan Army's destruction of political and civil institutions from day one. You not only are a hypocrite, you're a third rate mind who is spineless and often puts his tail between his legs to run off from any real discussion when lies cannot rescue you. You are also a barbarian who supported the US carnage in Iraq, pushed the Israeli lie that the Hizb was deliberately going into civilian areas so Israel could be blamed for its unprovoked carnage of civilians in 2006 and were writing nostalgically about the British colonization of India. You are an enemy of the people, and I can guarantee you people here know whose posts are a joke and whose posts are original, independant and not mainstream BS. I have much respect on chowk and your saying that I'm a joke here just added to that respect because everyone here knows what a spineless sellout you are...

Harimau,

No doubt, the rest of the population hates you. Afterall you were the guys who tried to introduce 'Kula Kalvi Thittam'. Don't whine.

For the uninitiated in Tamil 'Kula Kalvi Thittam' is a scheme that necessitated people to learn and practice the business their castes had been doing. In a nutshell they wanted
1. A Scavenger's son to learn scavenging and not Physics
2. A Barber's son to learn hair-dressing and not anything else
3. A famer's son to be a farmer

They wanted the rest of the living things to live for the Brahmins and this idea was mooted by Rajaji. BTW Rajaji's mother tongue was Tamil and Periyar's mother tongue was not Tamil.

"C.Rajagopalachari who had become the Chief Minister of Madras State for the second time between 1952 and 1954, had introduced the scheme of conducting classes in the schools in the forenoon and asking the students to learn the traditional jobs of their parents in the afternoon. At the first stage it was implement in the rural areas of the state. The Dravidian leaders assessed that the scheme was a clever device to keep the Shudra and Panchama castes as illiterates or semi-literates. Their children had just begun to attend school after centuries of denial of educational opportunities. They dubbed C. Rajagopalachari's scheme as Castiest Education Plan (Kula Kalvi Thittam) and began to agitate under Periyar's leadership demanding its withdrawal. As a consequence, the Chief Minister had to resign in March 1954, and Kamaraj assumed office on 14th April. Kamaraj abolished the half-day-teaching scheme, and assured Periyar that his Government would extent educational facilities to people in every nook and corner of the state.

Rajaji became the Chief minister due to a constitutional impropriety in 1952.In the 1952 elections Congress Party was reduced to a minority in the State Assembly and the Communist Party of India led coalition appeared to be in a better position to form the Government.[4] But Governor Sri Prakasa nominated Rajaji to the Legislative Council without the advice of the council of ministers and the selection of a nominated member as Chief Minister and further majority was obtained by luring opposition MLA[5] to join the party and Nehru was furious and wrote to Rajaji that" the one thing we must avoid giving is the impression that we stick to office and we want to keep others out at all costs"[6][7] Rajaji refused to contest a bye election and remained a non elected member."

First let me apologize to those of you who might be wondering why my posts aren't coing (maybe one or two of you), the internet connection I have these days is rather bad. In any case let me respond to tahmed's BS:

Tahmed writes :"....not aware that US forces are there to turn them into the 51st, 52nd, 53rd...58th states!! And no doubt the US cant wait to have Iraq and Afghanistan join the union as the 59th and 60th states!!"

Regardless of the fact that you haven't been able to respond to what I wrote regarding US territorial expansion through military bases which are not "hanging in the air", and about which your dimwitted white man worshipping brain had not even thought about, let me tell you that neo-colonial territorial expansion does not mean that you hand over the same rights that you have been forced to hand to the home country to other territories that you dominate. They get all the benefits and more of territorial expansion through force of arms with none of the cost of making those territories part of their formal state....get it fool?

"Why the hell do you guys demand entry into Shiva temples?"

Harimau,

It is we who built the temples, not your fore fathers. I do not consider you the representative of the collective Brahmin thoughts. You are just a low life like your grand fathers who required permission to sit before us.

I know you would call me a Golti and I don't feel bad to hide what my mother tongue is. There was no concept of Telugu/Tamil/Kannada speaking lands before the demarcation of states. I am as good/bad a Tamilian as anybody else in Tamilnadu. I do not have to desperately identify myself as a Tamilian because I have no intention or belief in using the tag for my advantage. PM me if you would want to come down to my place (a village near Theni/Cumbum) and verify for yourself. Kindly bring Mami with you :). Be assured, I have no intention of naming my kids the way you have predicted, neither we have anyone in the family by those names.

I know you would be angrier at the Telugus because they were vociferous against the Brahmins. FYI my Tamil is far better than your Subramanya Swamy who masquerades as a Tamil.

Just give a thought, for how many years do you think you can successfully turn people on each other using language/territory/ethnicity etc...You seem not to understand that the very same qualities had been identified and turned people's ire against you.

My Dad, in his engineering days, was closer to Kamaraj. Did you ever took time to understand why MGRs, KKSSRs, Arcot Veeraswamys are more loved than your people.

Masanamuthu,

Please don't club me with Harimau. I consider that an insult.

Re: # 475
Thanks for your points about demise of general Zia.
I always wonder if India has mole in some telephone exchange in country.
While Kargil fighting was going on Gen. Musharraf telephoned his deputy and they talked about situation. After some time Indians produced the conservation.
What is your feeling and speculation was it technical spying or human mole ?
Why indians published it ? ( This makes otherside to understand that they have some security beach in communication.
Or it was just handing this voice transmission to Indians by Chineses or Americans ?
Any idea of numbers of death on both sides.
This things never said by any body.

Mr.Tahmed.. You may not respond to Masadi if you want but no point in criticizing him and calling names. If you can not say good do not say any thing. You can study his book when after siome time , you can learn lot and different point of view.
Good morning everybody and great day.

harimau:

[I don't think the Brahmins are "oppressed" by other castes. Brahmins are "ridiculed" but it is vice versa. We can see that from the attitude of folks like Harimau and his equivalents in the other castes.]

Are brahmins the oppressors when Dalits and Thevars fight it out? Explain how. I very much would like to undertand how your brain stem reasons out these things.


stay calm and read what I have written.

Re: # 490

Guru Maharaj,
If you don't know where you can park your promises, or what use I have for them, no one can help you.

So why don't you take your "do-aatisha" dementia (hindutva + punjabi) and f**k off?

Ref masanamuthu #491

[Harimau:
I think you are mistaken. Vengatramanan is probably a Brahmin (and belongs to "you guys" :-) ) and not the "masanamuthus". You should know that. "Vengatramanan" is a 100% Brahmin name, assuming he chose the handle to reflect his name.]

Nope. On top of that, this Vengatramanan is a Golti. But when he manages to produce offspring, either thru his first cousin or a farm animal, you can be sure he will name it Tamil Selvan so that you Masanamuthus will be fooled into thinking that he is a True Son of Tamil Nadu.

Just like all of you guys fell for Doctor Artist Leader the Fund of Compassion's comment that Jayalalitha is a Kannadiga and MGR is a Malayalee but conveniently ignore the fact Arcot Veeraswamy and KKSSR Ramachandran (both of them ministers in the Tamil Nadu cabinet) speak in Telugu between themseleves, you will assume that this future Tamil Selvan is a True-Green Tamilian (Pacchai Thamizhan, in your parlance).

Also, the mad rush to adopt Tamil names like Tamil Selvan, Tamil Arasan, Tamil Mani, etc., has left out only Tamil @rsehole as the sole available name so that one's child could stand out among the 15 Tamil Selvans in a class. But the True-Green Tamilians have decided to adopt Sanskrit names in their bid to out-brahmin the brahmins. For instance, Tamil Nadu's election commissioner is named Chandrasekaran... when his malfeasance in conducting local elections was discussed, Karunanidhi said that he was being unfairly maligned because he is an MBC. However, the comments about his malfeasance in office came from a bench of the Madras High Court which ordered re-poll for 99 out of 156 councilor's positions. That is right, not in 99 polling booths but for 99 representatives! Karunanidhi couldn't blame the comment on the brahmins because the judge who made that comment was a Muslim.

[I don't think the Brahmins are "oppressed" by other castes. Brahmins are "ridiculed" but it is vice versa. We can see that from the attitude of folks like Harimau and his equivalents in the other castes.]

Are brahmins the oppressors when Dalits and Thevars fight it out? Explain how. I very much would like to undertand how your brain stem reasons out these things.

Consider that 98% of the villages in Tamil Nadu do not have a brahmin presence. Tell us how we are the oppressors in those 98% villages.

This board is comical.

There are multiple strands of discussion (or rather abuses) going on.

Why the hell do you guys demand entry into Shiva temples? Why can't you be happy worshipping Small-Pox and that fat film actress Khushbhoo (a Muslima at that)?

Harimau:
I think you are mistaken. Vengatramanan is probably a Brahmin (and belongs to "you guys" :-) ) and not the "masanamuthus". You should know that. "Vengatramanan" is a 100% Brahmin name, assuming he chose the handle to reflect his name.

Sanatani:
I don't think the Brahmins are "oppressed" by other castes. Brahmins are "ridiculed" but it is vice versa. We can see that from the attitude of folks like Harimau and his equivalents in the other castes.