Agha Amin January 23, 2008
#145 Posted by zeemax on January 26, 2008 9:06:09 am
#144 Posted by HP,
Actually it's not 1/3rd .... perhaps 1/2. It takes 6 hours from kohat to Dera Ismail Khan by bus. A further 1 1/2 hour from Peshawar to Kohat. That's 7 1/2 hours of terrain Taliban have captured, and you're busy with abusing your perceived enemies.
Actually it's not 1/3rd .... perhaps 1/2. It takes 6 hours from kohat to Dera Ismail Khan by bus. A further 1 1/2 hour from Peshawar to Kohat. That's 7 1/2 hours of terrain Taliban have captured, and you're busy with abusing your perceived enemies.
#146 Posted by zeemax on January 26, 2008 9:07:35 am
HP,
I have lived in Dera Ismail Khan 3 years.
I don't know that area. Sure.
I have lived in Dera Ismail Khan 3 years.
I don't know that area. Sure.
#147 Posted by zeemax on January 26, 2008 9:11:02 am
The other two bridges are already destroyed.
Kohat and beyond is now cut off from Peshawar.
Kohat and beyond is now cut off from Peshawar.
#148 Posted by HP on January 26, 2008 9:16:19 am
I spent time in Kohat, Hungu, Parachinar and Dara itself, besides Peshawar and Mardan! So don't exaggerate! I have never taken Bus for dera Isamil Khan to Kohat but From pindi to Kohat was not that much by car.
Peshawar and dara are almost next to each other nowadays. Traveling by car it was never 1 1/2 from Peshawar to Kohat. unless you stop for buying Charas in Dera!
#149 Posted by HP on January 26, 2008 9:18:06 am
"Kohat and beyond is now cut off from Peshawar."
I said that already. You can't go to Kohat w/o passing thru Dara. So if the fighting is going on there that areas is closed!
I said that already. You can't go to Kohat w/o passing thru Dara. So if the fighting is going on there that areas is closed!
#150 Posted by masadi on January 26, 2008 9:18:59 am
Pavo writes "Re: # 68 i was in the tribal areas just yesterday and the situation is that the paki general officer commanding the division with its headquarter for fear of tribals cannot travel on the road from miram shah to bannu in his jeep flying the command flag.
you are a naieve spinster who has no clue about military affairs."
This comment, regardless of its absurdity, one general does not an Army make, has no connection to my well thought out and historically sound post about the Pakistan army. Regarding America's investment in Afghanistan, the troops on the ground are a pittling compared to what they have sent to Iraq, and as far as dollar amounts go, you have no clue about the true figure because that is not published except as speculation but I can guarantee you it is nothing at all compared to the hundreds of billions the US has spent in Iraq. You have an infantile mind that cannot reason worth shit, the laterine is in your brain, your education is the prime product of the PMA, can't think worth a rat's ass and have no clue about how Pakistani society is set up, you need a lot more reading and education to figure that one out, and learn the meaning of "analysis" your article is simple third grade tabulation with zero analysis.
you are a naieve spinster who has no clue about military affairs."
This comment, regardless of its absurdity, one general does not an Army make, has no connection to my well thought out and historically sound post about the Pakistan army. Regarding America's investment in Afghanistan, the troops on the ground are a pittling compared to what they have sent to Iraq, and as far as dollar amounts go, you have no clue about the true figure because that is not published except as speculation but I can guarantee you it is nothing at all compared to the hundreds of billions the US has spent in Iraq. You have an infantile mind that cannot reason worth shit, the laterine is in your brain, your education is the prime product of the PMA, can't think worth a rat's ass and have no clue about how Pakistani society is set up, you need a lot more reading and education to figure that one out, and learn the meaning of "analysis" your article is simple third grade tabulation with zero analysis.
#151 Posted by ijaz_gul on January 26, 2008 9:22:27 am
Zee and HP,
The Kohat Tunnel at both ends is already occupied by Taliban. Indus Highway is closed. On the Kohat side of the tunnel there used to be a microwave station and Military communication tower on top of the hill. The military contigent there of about ten men was slaughterd and the towers destroyed.
Around Razmak, There are pitched battles going on with attacks and counter attacks. Taliban are now engaging the army in set piece conventional operations and not Hit n Run.
This is the gravity of the situation.
Cheerios
The Kohat Tunnel at both ends is already occupied by Taliban. Indus Highway is closed. On the Kohat side of the tunnel there used to be a microwave station and Military communication tower on top of the hill. The military contigent there of about ten men was slaughterd and the towers destroyed.
Around Razmak, There are pitched battles going on with attacks and counter attacks. Taliban are now engaging the army in set piece conventional operations and not Hit n Run.
This is the gravity of the situation.
Cheerios
#152 Posted by masadi on January 26, 2008 9:26:09 am
Every idiot come along on this site and thinks he is God's gift to humanity. Show us ONE original point well reasoned by this fake and then we can start listening to his shit. Till them all the "I was at the ground here n there and this general said this..." is worth crap as far as "analysis" goes.
#153 Posted by HP on January 26, 2008 9:30:32 am
"You have an infantile mind that cannot reason worth shit, the laterine is in your brain, your education is the prime product of the PMA, can't think worth a rat's ass and have no clue about how Pakistani society is set up,"
This is so funny! Asadi, I just can't stop laughing. This the real description of any Pak army officer's mind.
This is so funny! Asadi, I just can't stop laughing. This the real description of any Pak army officer's mind.
#154 Posted by zeemax on January 26, 2008 9:36:36 am
Major General Athar Abbas has confirmed Kohat Tunnel is under Taliban control and FC is trying to free it.
Sheesh HP, have a heart.
Sheesh HP, have a heart.
#155 Posted by HP on January 26, 2008 9:44:08 am
ملکیوں جنگجؤوں کے خلاف جنوبی وزیرستان تک محدود جنگ اب بالعموم
پورے پاکستان میں اور بالخصوص شمالی وزیرستان، مہمند، باجوڑ، کرم ایجنسیوں، سوات، درہ آدم خیل، ٹانک، بنوں اور لکی مروت کے مضافاتی علاقوں تک پہنچ گئی ہے۔ ان علاقوں میں مقامی افراد پر مشتمل طالبان مضبوط اور منظم قوت کے طور پرمنظر عام پر آئے ہیں۔ بلکہ انہوں نے وہاں پر تربیتی مراکز بھی قائم کیے ہیں۔انہوں نے اپنی آزادانہ نقل و حرکت کے لیے بعض علاقوں پر مکمل قبضہ کیا ہے جو سکیورٹی فورسز کے لیے ’نوگو ایریاز‘ میں تبدل ہوچکے ہیں۔
درہ آدم خیل میں گزشتہ دو سال میں طالبان سرگرم عمل ہوئے ہیں جنہوں نے لڑکیوں کے سکولوں، حجام، منشیات، سی ڈیز کی دکانوں کو بارہا بم حملے کا نشانہ بنایا ہے مگر مقامی انتظامیہ ان دھماکوں کی آوازیں سننے کے باوجود عملاً خاموش رہی۔
درہ آدم خیل میں طالبان کا ابھرنا نہ صرف اس لحاظ سے قابل تشویش ہے کہ یہ جنگ نہ صرف پشاور تک پہنچ سکتی ہے بلکہ طالبان کو ایک ایسی اہم شاہراہ بھی مِل گئی ہے جو کوہاٹ کی سرنگ کے ذریعےصوبہ سرحد کو اپنے جنوبی اضلاع، صوبہ سندھ اوربلوچستان سے ملاتی ہے۔
عینی شاہدین کے مطابق طالبان نے سرنگ کے اندر بارود سے بھری پک اپ کو اڑا کر صوبہ سرحد کا رابطہ ان علاقوں کے ساتھ اب مکمل طور پر منقطع کردیا ہے۔
The above is from the BBC site!
پورے پاکستان میں اور بالخصوص شمالی وزیرستان، مہمند، باجوڑ، کرم ایجنسیوں، سوات، درہ آدم خیل، ٹانک، بنوں اور لکی مروت کے مضافاتی علاقوں تک پہنچ گئی ہے۔ ان علاقوں میں مقامی افراد پر مشتمل طالبان مضبوط اور منظم قوت کے طور پرمنظر عام پر آئے ہیں۔ بلکہ انہوں نے وہاں پر تربیتی مراکز بھی قائم کیے ہیں۔انہوں نے اپنی آزادانہ نقل و حرکت کے لیے بعض علاقوں پر مکمل قبضہ کیا ہے جو سکیورٹی فورسز کے لیے ’نوگو ایریاز‘ میں تبدل ہوچکے ہیں۔
درہ آدم خیل میں گزشتہ دو سال میں طالبان سرگرم عمل ہوئے ہیں جنہوں نے لڑکیوں کے سکولوں، حجام، منشیات، سی ڈیز کی دکانوں کو بارہا بم حملے کا نشانہ بنایا ہے مگر مقامی انتظامیہ ان دھماکوں کی آوازیں سننے کے باوجود عملاً خاموش رہی۔
درہ آدم خیل میں طالبان کا ابھرنا نہ صرف اس لحاظ سے قابل تشویش ہے کہ یہ جنگ نہ صرف پشاور تک پہنچ سکتی ہے بلکہ طالبان کو ایک ایسی اہم شاہراہ بھی مِل گئی ہے جو کوہاٹ کی سرنگ کے ذریعےصوبہ سرحد کو اپنے جنوبی اضلاع، صوبہ سندھ اوربلوچستان سے ملاتی ہے۔
عینی شاہدین کے مطابق طالبان نے سرنگ کے اندر بارود سے بھری پک اپ کو اڑا کر صوبہ سرحد کا رابطہ ان علاقوں کے ساتھ اب مکمل طور پر منقطع کردیا ہے۔
The above is from the BBC site!
#156 Posted by ijaz_gul on January 26, 2008 9:50:21 am
HP and Agha,
Rather than win brownies, lets concentrate on the gravity of the situation. Agha is trying his best to tell us whats happening and I have no reason to doubt what he says is incorrect. Taliban tactic is changing fron unconventional to conventional and this is alarming.
Rather than win brownies, lets concentrate on the gravity of the situation. Agha is trying his best to tell us whats happening and I have no reason to doubt what he says is incorrect. Taliban tactic is changing fron unconventional to conventional and this is alarming.
#157 Posted by zeemax on January 26, 2008 9:51:14 am
... and to remember it all started with the bombing of the madrassa in Bajaur where 80 innocent kids were killed during ablutions for Ramzaan morning prayers.
#158 Posted by zeemax on January 26, 2008 9:52:25 am
... Tribals have a code of revenge. They don't forget their own.
#159 Posted by mohar11 on January 26, 2008 9:58:56 am
Barbarians at the door- pakis as usual are running around like headless chickens... pecking each other with their non-existent beaks...
What the heck is wrong with this fool HP?...
Pavo dude, ignore the fool... let us know that heck is going on in pakiland...
What the heck is wrong with this fool HP?...
Pavo dude, ignore the fool... let us know that heck is going on in pakiland...
#160 Posted by HP on January 26, 2008 10:00:17 am
#156 Posted by ijaz_gul
agha is basically BSing! Or pulling for the criminals. I think you are just trying to make him credible for some reason and putting yourself on line for nothing.
There is nothing alarming in the situation in Dara. That place had gone to nuts a long time ago. We are witnessing a game that is being played to benefit some folks in Pakistan especially the army. Creates a good scenarios for another take over. Get over this alarming stuff!
agha is basically BSing! Or pulling for the criminals. I think you are just trying to make him credible for some reason and putting yourself on line for nothing.
There is nothing alarming in the situation in Dara. That place had gone to nuts a long time ago. We are witnessing a game that is being played to benefit some folks in Pakistan especially the army. Creates a good scenarios for another take over. Get over this alarming stuff!
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