Musharraf’s Days are Numbered

JUst in about20 days new election and will have start of democracy. Now gone is gone and is never coming back. General has forgive NS and forgiven Mrs Bhutto for 1.5 billion accounting problems. For god sake please give little kind tratment to Mr. President. Everybody has problems and and needs to forgive and forget and be ottimistic of coming new era due to general. Let it be new morning and new beginning a new PM and opposition leader working for new govt with general as head of state. Time to think positively and forget anf forgive, To understand all is t forgive all.

#63 Posted by Urstruly,

You got it Bro.

Re: # 62

makes sense. i think that is how fouj justify their participation in wot while at the same time making americans shit their pants

#59 Posted by Urstruly,

Why do you think there's a split? I believe Jhangvi are still carrying out attacks at the agencies' behest while pretending to have joined the Taliban movement of FATA..

Re: # 59 Urstruly I would recommned you read this http://merln.ndu.edu/archive/icg/sectarianisminpakistan.pdf
THE STATE OF SECTARIANISM IN PAKISTAN Asia Report N°95 – 18 April 2005,International Crisis Group

It is highly entertaining and enlightening!

Zeemax #58 #57 thanks for the information. Now can you please paint the bigger picture and tell us who is winning in this war and who is losing? Also what this loss of Toori means to LeJ and his recruitment to ("they") (sic) means.

Man, you are one for the loony bin if you carry on like this.....

Re: # 57 zeemax

As much I understand it, the Lashkare Jhangvi was a US funded terrorist group whose main objective was to assassinate all Shias of TNFJ who were trying to import Iranian revolutionary ideology into pakistan. What caused the split between this terrorsit org and their pattron fouj and US.

First they said Qasim Toori was captured, now they're saying he was killed in the encounter. So now they have another recruit expert at bombings after Riaz Basra and Akram Lahori.

Police encounter with Lashkar-e-Jhangvi in Landhi, Karachi. One DSP and a constable dead several injured. The person captured Qasim Toori of Jhangvi, is supposed to be wanted for the Corps Commander attack in Karachi. A sack full of 25 kg of ball bearings used in suicide bombings found from the premises.

Connect the dots.

A key member of dictator's legal dream team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvrF1T7rH64

HP and Zeemax,

What is common between Jinnah, ZAB, Bibi - all shias
Was Zia ul haq a shia?

here are three bits of information

(a) In March 1987, a Saudi-backed Ahle Hadith leader,
Allama Ehsan Illahi Zaheer, and four other clerics were
killed in a bomb blast in Lahore. The Shias were the
prime suspects.
(b)The following year, TNFJ leader Ariful
Hussaini was murdered in Peshawar.
(c)When the Shia town of Gilgit in the Northern Areas was attacked thatsame year by a Sunni lashkar, the Zia governmentappeared complicit since the civil and military law enforcement agencies made no attempt to intervene.


Would you relate these three with the following event

(d)Zia's death in a midair explosion in 1988

source : http://merln.ndu.edu/archive/icg/sectarianisminpakistan.pdf
THE STATE OF SECTARIANISM IN PAKISTAN Asia Report N°95 – 18 April 2005,International Crisis Group

Re: # 45

Dr Gill,
Spoken like a true democrat with the state of The State of Pakistan in heart. I wonder how many people here on chowk would even countenance "If the majority of people want Talbanization, let it be. I think esprit de corps is the essence of democracy".

Here is the thing - given that the taliba might come to power through the ballot box - what is there thatwould stop them from changing the rules to keep the power in their hands at all times?

... re "Wasn't his the clinching vote that got Mir Zafarullah Jamali elected as the PML-Q candidate for PM?"

I don't know anything about that, but Azam Tariq's influence was mostly limited to the Jhang area. It is though true that he had succeeded to create a large contingent of bombers and organizational network in most of Punjab who were blowing up Shia mosques. Maybe ISI felt that could come in handy. Therefore the mystery surrounding the disappearance of his two top deputies - Riaz Basra and Akram Lahori.

#50 Posted by viqarm,

The Sipah-e-Muhammad was disbanded through efforts of Allama Sajid Naqvi when he joined MMA. It was not a shia/sunni affair.

Another mystery to be solved:

US embassy official found dead in Islamabad

By Munawer Azeem

ISLAMABAD, Jan 28: A security officer of the US embassy was found dead in his residence on Monday.

The embassy said no “foul play” was involved, but senior police officers thought otherwise.

They said it was too early to determine from the bullet wound in the skull of Mr Keith Ryan whether it was a case of suicide or homicide.

Keith Ryan, 37, was due to return to the US on Monday.

According to hospital and police sources, the embassy stopped the authorities from conducting post-mortem after the body was shifted to the Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences.

Doctors there were allowed to carry out an external examination only. The embassy officials said an autopsy would be carried out in Germany.

The incident came to light when the embassy staff arrived at the house of Keith Ryan, on Street 63, Sector F-7/3, to take him to Islamabad airport for a US-bound flight.

As no response came from inside the house, the staff called police at around 9am. When they entered the house with the policemen, they found Mr Ryan lying in a pool of blood in the bathroom, a loaded pistol lying nearby.

The police and the embassy officials collected fingerprints and other evidence before shifting the body to Pims.

Sources at the hospital said Mr Ryan had a bullet wound in the back of his head. The bullet was still lodged in his skull, according to doctors.

Had he committed suicide by shooting himself through the mouth, the bullet would have exited, according to the doctors.

The medico-legal department of the hospital has asked the management to conduct an autopsy.

Mr Ryan, a senior official of the US Department of Homeland Security, was born in 1970. He was posted to Pakistan in Nov 2006. The department was set up after the Sept 11, 2001, attacks to keep an eye on immigrants.

Mr Ryan’s designation was senior special agent.

He leaves behind his wife and three young children.

The Islamabad police, in a report to the federal government, ascribed the death to suicide, but said a final opinion would be given only after an investigation.

Re: # 49 Zee Sahib,
This is the first time I have heard of ISI doing the job on Azam Tariq. The word was he was done in by Sipah-e-Mohammad in the continuing proxy war between SA and Iran.

What would have the ISI/govt gained by eliminating Azam Tariq. Wasn't his the clinching vote that got Mir Zafarullah Jamali elected as the PML-Q candidate for PM?