mahmood Mahmood January 27, 2008
#36 Posted by laddu on January 31, 2008 10:27:04 pm
Re: # 33
"Most Pakistanis have a very low opinion of Saudis in general for many reasons ... including religious ones. They have clout because of the oil subsidies but that does not extend into cultural sphere."
Culture Sphere??
The only culture that Pakistani Islamic state envisages is that stated in the classical Islamic thought - only dhufs in music - no iconography apart from that considered permissible by the local maulavi- no literature that offends Islamic metaphysics- Manto classics are absolutely Kufr- no to TV - no to theatre - no to cinema- just make the women hide in chadars and rear the children. that leaves out poetry- which also cannot breach the Islamic metaphysics and its metaphors.
That is , in short, Islamic pure culture that Pakis do not follow because of the 'bad' hindu influences.(read Basant and Urdu)
. Saudi follow the Islamic culture in its 'purity' , Pakistanis only claim to be pure - I have seen the way these Sheikhs abuse and have a low opinion of Paki muslims!!
"Most Pakistanis have a very low opinion of Saudis in general for many reasons ... including religious ones. They have clout because of the oil subsidies but that does not extend into cultural sphere."
Culture Sphere??
The only culture that Pakistani Islamic state envisages is that stated in the classical Islamic thought - only dhufs in music - no iconography apart from that considered permissible by the local maulavi- no literature that offends Islamic metaphysics- Manto classics are absolutely Kufr- no to TV - no to theatre - no to cinema- just make the women hide in chadars and rear the children. that leaves out poetry- which also cannot breach the Islamic metaphysics and its metaphors.
That is , in short, Islamic pure culture that Pakis do not follow because of the 'bad' hindu influences.(read Basant and Urdu)
. Saudi follow the Islamic culture in its 'purity' , Pakistanis only claim to be pure - I have seen the way these Sheikhs abuse and have a low opinion of Paki muslims!!
#35 Posted by laddu on January 31, 2008 10:18:05 pm
Re: # 33
". how about taking some responsibility for the demolition of a 16th century building in Ayodhya ... "
how about taking some responsibility for the demolition of hundreds of hindu temples and idols in Pakistan since partition??
". how about taking some responsibility for the demolition of a 16th century building in Ayodhya ... "
how about taking some responsibility for the demolition of hundreds of hindu temples and idols in Pakistan since partition??
#34 Posted by laddu on January 31, 2008 10:15:29 pm
Re: # 28
Manto ji,
No gandhara statute on the front page of this mission http://www.pakmission.ca/index.ASP
QED.
Manto ji,
No gandhara statute on the front page of this mission http://www.pakmission.ca/index.ASP
QED.
#33 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2008 10:12:07 pm
And so come the geniuses ... laddu and ananth who just know that Pakistanis follow all things Saudi.
No we don't. Most Pakistanis have a very low opinion of Saudis in general for many reasons ... including religious ones. They have clout because of the oil subsidies but that does not extend into cultural sphere.
Besides... before you start shedding crocodile tears about the Prophet's house which hasn't been demilished yet... how about taking some responsibility for the demolition of a 16th century building in Ayodhya ... where "secular" Hordes ran amok on the basis of some speculation about the birth of some god.
No we don't. Most Pakistanis have a very low opinion of Saudis in general for many reasons ... including religious ones. They have clout because of the oil subsidies but that does not extend into cultural sphere.
Besides... before you start shedding crocodile tears about the Prophet's house which hasn't been demilished yet... how about taking some responsibility for the demolition of a 16th century building in Ayodhya ... where "secular" Hordes ran amok on the basis of some speculation about the birth of some god.
#32 Posted by majumdar on January 31, 2008 9:42:41 pm
Incidentally a lot of sites from the Indus Valley civilisation are cropping up in North Western India, apparently more than a 100 sites have been excavated in Haryana alone plus Punjab, Western UP and Rajasthan as well.
Regards
Regards
#31 Posted by laddu on January 31, 2008 9:42:10 pm
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#30 Posted by Ananth07 on January 31, 2008 9:37:46 pm
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#29 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2008 9:29:58 pm
PS: Also... Gandhara civ receives a lot of government patronage and exposure.
There is absolutely no truth to claims that Pakistanis neglect their past. Infact... the Kitas Raj temples and their renovation shows that we preserve our past... unlike some other countries where historical mosques are razed down by "secular" hordes screaming "Ram Rajya" because some mythical god was "born" in that place.
There is absolutely no truth to claims that Pakistanis neglect their past. Infact... the Kitas Raj temples and their renovation shows that we preserve our past... unlike some other countries where historical mosques are razed down by "secular" hordes screaming "Ram Rajya" because some mythical god was "born" in that place.
#28 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2008 9:24:40 pm
The Gandhara statues as well as Mohenjodaro civilization is boldly displayed at every foreign mission of Pakistan. You may visit to check the same.
My sincere advice to Indians is to kindly stop making everything into their own spin.
My sincere advice to Indians is to kindly stop making everything into their own spin.
#27 Posted by laddu on January 31, 2008 9:24:02 pm
Re: # 23
bhai Saheb,
Quran ki ayaat ko red flag to mat karo!!
upar wale ka khauf to karo??
bhai Saheb,
Quran ki ayaat ko red flag to mat karo!!
upar wale ka khauf to karo??
#26 Posted by Ananth07 on January 31, 2008 9:04:40 pm
I sincerely hop Pkistan takes pride in its past, and not follow the lead of Abrahamic archeologists, who never dated anything before "gensis".
I also hope pakistan does not follow th saudi model and dstroy all that pre- dates advent of Islam in tha country.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/shame-of-the-hou se-of-saud-shadows-over-mecca-474736.html
I also hope pakistan does not follow th saudi model and dstroy all that pre- dates advent of Islam in tha country.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/shame-of-the-hou se-of-saud-shadows-over-mecca-474736.html
#25 Posted by mahfari on January 31, 2008 7:42:24 pm
Re: # 24 You are pointing to the right direction, we have not been able to know its depth! Hope to write on comparative civilizations of world Insha Allah!
#24 Posted by tahmed32 on January 31, 2008 7:21:51 pm
Great article. Mahrgah is proof that Pakistan is as much the cradle of human civilization as the fertile crescent.
#23 Posted by mahfari on January 31, 2008 7:00:24 pm
Re: # 21 May Bhagwan let you face Karma with courage!
#21 Posted by laddu on January 31, 2008 6:39:02 pm
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