mahmood Mahmood January 27, 2008
#17 Posted by mahfari on January 31, 2008 1:55:01 pm
Re: # 11 thank you very much for sharing information , please let us know more.and as to other points, here may be older human dwellings than Mehrgarh , and there are but the stress point is the level of evolutionary devel;opemnt attained.
#18 Posted by mahfari on January 31, 2008 2:07:34 pm
Re: # 7 Dear this reference to Holy Prophet peace be upon him was in the context of atttributing extremism to Muslims , and every one has right to differ, but my point was that extremism is a menace and has no relationship with any sepcific religion.
As to population these are estimates available extrapolated with the avaialble number of mounds , remains and possible further archeological sites, and yes these are estimates , if they can be corrected upon nice idea , but this is not basic crux of the issue.If you have different sharing please share it .
And the point that Mehergarh being differnet , then raising point of continuity is not contradictory in itself, it is like saying that Anglo Saxons civilization of twentieth century is different from eleventh,12th century Anglo Saxon civilization , but it has continuity of certain features.
It is in the context of extrapolating the physical doamisn of Indua to the place which is geographical in surmountable and as to ideas, aritfacst they do travel.
Unfortunately picturs have not been added yet in article , but if we take the pictures of birds which are 8000 years old then comapre them to pictures in World Art Museum Pictures in Beijing about anicent China of 4 thousand years old then they are similar! But Mehergarh preccceded them by whooping 4000 years!!!! Now what will you say about this similarity and other differnces?
the point of differnce is in its originality, scope, physical terrain and the point raised after accepting these facts is that these ideas did not die , they travelled further to Indus... the evolution of humanity works like this. So where is contradiction?
As to ideological and interpolations CORRUPTION please make it explicit and clear, then we can discuss furhter. By the way , there is a nice saying facts are sacred , opinions are free!If the ideas are irratioanl and not supported by reason and logic , let su chaneg and reform them , but outright rejection ... does not appeal to rational standards!
thanks for taking interest in article!
As to population these are estimates available extrapolated with the avaialble number of mounds , remains and possible further archeological sites, and yes these are estimates , if they can be corrected upon nice idea , but this is not basic crux of the issue.If you have different sharing please share it .
And the point that Mehergarh being differnet , then raising point of continuity is not contradictory in itself, it is like saying that Anglo Saxons civilization of twentieth century is different from eleventh,12th century Anglo Saxon civilization , but it has continuity of certain features.
It is in the context of extrapolating the physical doamisn of Indua to the place which is geographical in surmountable and as to ideas, aritfacst they do travel.
Unfortunately picturs have not been added yet in article , but if we take the pictures of birds which are 8000 years old then comapre them to pictures in World Art Museum Pictures in Beijing about anicent China of 4 thousand years old then they are similar! But Mehergarh preccceded them by whooping 4000 years!!!! Now what will you say about this similarity and other differnces?
the point of differnce is in its originality, scope, physical terrain and the point raised after accepting these facts is that these ideas did not die , they travelled further to Indus... the evolution of humanity works like this. So where is contradiction?
As to ideological and interpolations CORRUPTION please make it explicit and clear, then we can discuss furhter. By the way , there is a nice saying facts are sacred , opinions are free!If the ideas are irratioanl and not supported by reason and logic , let su chaneg and reform them , but outright rejection ... does not appeal to rational standards!
thanks for taking interest in article!
#19 Posted by Eklavya on January 31, 2008 4:15:44 pm
Yes, ijaz_gul, you wrote about some intriguing discoveries you made in your travels. Clearly, the land right up to Afghanistan has seen some fascinating history a long time ago.
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mahfari, at least this is a very interesting subject for many of us. As and if more knowledge develops, it will be very helpful to those who are interested. So best of luck and Godspeed to researcher, and thanks for bringing this information to us.
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mahfari, at least this is a very interesting subject for many of us. As and if more knowledge develops, it will be very helpful to those who are interested. So best of luck and Godspeed to researcher, and thanks for bringing this information to us.
#20 Posted by laddu on January 31, 2008 6:36:36 pm
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#23 Posted by mahfari on January 31, 2008 7:00:24 pm
Re: # 21 May Bhagwan let you face Karma with courage!
#24 Posted by tahmed32 on January 31, 2008 7:21:51 pm
Great article. Mahrgah is proof that Pakistan is as much the cradle of human civilization as the fertile crescent.
#25 Posted by mahfari on January 31, 2008 7:42:24 pm
Re: # 24 You are pointing to the right direction, we have not been able to know its depth! Hope to write on comparative civilizations of world Insha Allah!
#26 Posted by Ananth07 on January 31, 2008 9:04:40 pm
I sincerely hop Pkistan takes pride in its past, and not follow the lead of Abrahamic archeologists, who never dated anything before "gensis".
I also hope pakistan does not follow th saudi model and dstroy all that pre- dates advent of Islam in tha country.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/shame-of-the-hou se-of-saud-shadows-over-mecca-474736.html
I also hope pakistan does not follow th saudi model and dstroy all that pre- dates advent of Islam in tha country.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/shame-of-the-hou se-of-saud-shadows-over-mecca-474736.html
#27 Posted by laddu on January 31, 2008 9:24:02 pm
Re: # 23
bhai Saheb,
Quran ki ayaat ko red flag to mat karo!!
upar wale ka khauf to karo??
bhai Saheb,
Quran ki ayaat ko red flag to mat karo!!
upar wale ka khauf to karo??
#28 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2008 9:24:40 pm
The Gandhara statues as well as Mohenjodaro civilization is boldly displayed at every foreign mission of Pakistan. You may visit to check the same.
My sincere advice to Indians is to kindly stop making everything into their own spin.
My sincere advice to Indians is to kindly stop making everything into their own spin.
#29 Posted by MantoLives on January 31, 2008 9:29:58 pm
PS: Also... Gandhara civ receives a lot of government patronage and exposure.
There is absolutely no truth to claims that Pakistanis neglect their past. Infact... the Kitas Raj temples and their renovation shows that we preserve our past... unlike some other countries where historical mosques are razed down by "secular" hordes screaming "Ram Rajya" because some mythical god was "born" in that place.
There is absolutely no truth to claims that Pakistanis neglect their past. Infact... the Kitas Raj temples and their renovation shows that we preserve our past... unlike some other countries where historical mosques are razed down by "secular" hordes screaming "Ram Rajya" because some mythical god was "born" in that place.
#30 Posted by Ananth07 on January 31, 2008 9:37:46 pm
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#31 Posted by laddu on January 31, 2008 9:42:10 pm
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#32 Posted by majumdar on January 31, 2008 9:42:41 pm
Incidentally a lot of sites from the Indus Valley civilisation are cropping up in North Western India, apparently more than a 100 sites have been excavated in Haryana alone plus Punjab, Western UP and Rajasthan as well.
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