Pakistan's Universities - Problems and Solutions

Re: # 116
The Ramayana and Mahabharat wars are what exactly? Fighting over Sita with abductor Ravan is what?
Ans: There are thousands of sources of Ramayana. Read it.
Ramayana is not Sita alone. It is the story of Ram ( ideal son (left the kingdom to fulfill the promose of his father), ideal husband ( to bring back Sita from the clutch of abductors...), Ideal King). His entire life was struggle for others...
If Mo. was so humble, then from a poor financial background, how he had accumulated so much wealth when he had died? What crime is left which is not committed by Mo?

Re: # 112

Are you still grappling with this basic question?

Tut..tut..tut...

The answer my friend, is reading the TEXT itself. Do that NOW!

Re: # 113

Mr. Laddu,
Allow me to thank you for addressing me with kindness, but also allow me to say something more.

You said:
This sunnat nonsense...
this eulogizing of Mohammad and his murderous actions...

I say:
Sunnah means what the prophet did and which did not go against God's commands. Along the way he was guided, corrected, and at times warned severely!

Again the litmus-test of the Sunnah is the Quran's text; interpretations can and indeed have varied but it's not impossible to be shown the light by God if one sincerely tried.

The Ramayana and Mahabharat wars are what exactly? Fighting over Sita with abductor Ravan is what? Please desist from bad-mouthing prophets; I've asked you for this before. Grow up from being a laddu to a 'moti-choor ka laddu', please...

And I have not been made familiar with the '40 plus shababiya age' bit as a Muslim. What is this that you mention anyway?

Peace.

Re: # 111

I believe Mr. Laddu, you directed this at me? Have you ever heard of contentment, that inner peace of not being able to own EVERYTHING? I don't mean asceticism or passive sufism which God abhors!

But then, materialism wipes out whatever little humanity one has by raising one's selfish standards while wiping out the poor and the voiceless. Do you live in America; I hope not!

As for: "When the Prophet’s (pbuh) wife put a cushion in his bed he got upset. He consciously lowered his standard of living."

You've added your own views to some historic report. Please quote the original source and I'll get back to you.

Islam polishes one's spirit, increases self-esteem and dignity, and helps everyone attain that too! If that is not happening around you, the fault does not lie in the system but in those individuals.

Peace.

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Re: # 110
Contrary to popular western beilef, Quran is not the creation of a man

Ans: So, from where it has appeared?

What gems from this 'moderate' guy-
"Improving ones standard of living has become an idol whereas I think Islam lowers your standard of living. You become content with less. When the Prophet’s (pbuh) wife put a cushion in his bed he got upset. He consciously lowered his standard of living."

it is amazing! Tomorrow we are going to see donkeys on the streets as the best viable green and energy efficient source of transportation.

Re: # 107

Dear Laddu,

Such a sweet name, and so much bitterness?

Please don't misuse this forum to make anti-Islam demands. What is revealed must be understood and followed. Contrary to popular western beilef, Quran is not the creation of a man.

First thoroughly read your own scriptures which have strong hints of monotheism, anti-usury laws, plenty of good etc. Before I read the Quran, I read all your sacred texts, even Buddhist ones!

Read Dr. Muhammad Asad's Quran translation. Like most Muslims who beleive the mullah instead of reading, comparing and researching, you will be surprised that many things that you accuse Muslims of are either not in the Quran or exist in dubious Hadith literature.

As you desire, name the place and we can meet one day God willing.

Regards.

"And by our nature we do make things. Islamic technology would be very humane. To serve people as opposed to the opposite."

Imam Hamza Yusuf talks about "Islamic technology" as if it is something out of Quran !!

I am amused!!

Imam Hamza Yusuf talks about shababiya and bad mouths other cultural notions of man's life path.
Does he know that this Islamic notion is because Mohammad was a hen pecked husband of a strong independent pagan woman till she died when he was 40 plus.
That , Mohammad went berserk after that and became a woman subduer and a tyrant - that is when he embarked upon the career of murder, loots, rapes and all horrible things in this world!!
This eulogizing and idolizing Mohammad's actions is the cause of current woes.
Mullahs want modern day muslims to be like Mohammad - living off an elderly woman's business and living as a toy boy till 40 plus - and then turning into terrible demons after 40.

we need an Islam that stops terrorizing idolators with horrible violence .

we need Islam that does not proclaim the 'superiority' by shouting Allahu and brandishing sword all the time.

we need Islam that does not bad mouth idolators and kafirs.

we need an Islam that is shorn of hatred towards jews, christians, mushriqs and munafiqoons.

that is the Islam that is acceptable to the modern world- if 'moderate' muslims can spin such an 'Islam' then it is acceptable to the modern world otherwise we are all on the collision course!!!

Re: # 98

"One can only hope that more of our educated class will get involved in traditional Islamic education and convey to the generations to come the soundness of that understanding."

That is already being done by the 'moderate' muslims- while justifying algebra as a consequence of Quran.

This "Quranic Foundationalism" is the source of currents ills. What we need is a group of Anti-Foundationalist thought amongst 'moderate' muslims which seeks to go beyond re-interpreting wife beatings in Quran as 'mild pecking on the cheek'.
We need something more than a watered down version of mullah Islam that rejects TNT and proclaims 'equity' of idolators and mushriqs and munafiqoons in all matters.

#103 Posted by viqarm on January 30, 2008 7:13:19 pm

I know algebra and that shit ain't algebra...

Re: # 70
Our culture is dying, a culture which was full of beauty,wisdom, mercy, magnanimity, love, and patience

Ans: That was demonstrated during 1947 partition.
Poet and art you can not create with formula or training. It is inspired by nature and the sensibility of a person. The more we ( mankind as a whole) are destroying nature, all these will go. Govt. have very little to do with it.

Re: # 100 Hamidm Sahib,
The wife's share is one-eighth of what the man leaves (since, in your example, there are children). That is what the second verse you cited seems to be saying.

Now, of the remaining seven-eighth, the parent's share is a third (i.e. 7/24 of the original estate). The remaining 2/3 of the seven-eights is divided equally amongst the 3 daughters (each gets 7/36 of the original estate).

(1/8) + (7/24) + 3(7/36)
= (1/8) + (7/24) + (7/12)
=(3 + 7 + 14)/24
= 24/24
= 1

Hope it helps your friend from "Liberty" University.