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Pakistan's Universities - Problems and Solutions

Pervez Hoodbhoy January 27, 2008

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#190 Posted by nkg on February 3, 2008 7:46:15 pm
Re: # 178

NASA Photos Prove Splitting of Moon

Tehran


Ans: Please post this in any jokes website.
A revolving body like moon can not be kept in its shape by joining two hemispheres... Is this moon theory, collected from Quoran? Then that must be a ultimate joke book ( better than santa-banta comedy).
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#189 Posted by nkg on February 3, 2008 7:37:44 pm
Re: # 182
Hindus seem to have evolved from a really smelly species of apes.

:-) ha ha ha!!!!
Like Hindus are violent intolerent and islam is peaceful religion and they stay harmonious with others in countries like Britain, India, Gernmany, France, Thailand, Burma. Mo was very virtuous person (battle of Badr, raping 6 year old girl at the age of 53).
Keep it up....
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#188 Posted by arjun_5 on February 3, 2008 3:07:30 pm
#187 Posted by mohar11 on February 3, 2008 11:20:02 am


Zeemax - that looks like a "club class" super luxury flight


yup...club gitmo...water sports free...(mostly waterboarding)
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#187 Posted by mohar11 on February 3, 2008 11:20:02 am
Zeemax - that looks like a "club class" super luxury flight, doesn't it? a lot of leg space, ha ha ... and completely free, too...

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#186 Posted by arjun_5 on February 3, 2008 6:29:33 am
HAHA...reality..

Ethnic minority employment gap remains significant in UK
London, Feb 2, IRNA

UK Minorities-Employment
The gap between the employment rate for the ethnic minorities and the general population in the UK remains significant and could take another 30 years to close, a government watchdog warned Friday.

The National Audit Office (NAO) found that the employment rate was only 60 per cent among the country's 10 per cent ethnic minority population, compared with 74 per cent for the general population, just 1.3 percentage points lower than the gap in 1987.

"The reality is that over recent years, while there has been a slow but steady improvement, the overall reduction in the employment gap has been modest," the auditor general said.

He warned that unless the Department for Work and Pension (DWP), which is responsible for helping people into employment, is prepared to do more to reach out to the ethnic minority communities, "prospects for increasing their employment rate remain bleak."
The DWP's strategy was found to be fragmented and lacking continuity, adversely affecting efforts to reduce ethnic minority unemployment.

The gap was said to be costing Britain's economy Pnds 8.6 billion (Dlrs 17 bn) each year and reasons included ethnic minorities facing discrimination and unequal treatment.

The country's ethnic minority population is diverse and widely spread with the biggest concentration in London, but the highest unemployment rate is among Muslims, with only 44 per cent of Bangladeshis and 47 per cent of Pakistanis having jobs.

This compared with 69 per cent of Indians
,66 per cent of Black Caribbeans and 62 per cent Black Africans who performed better in the labour market.

For most ethnic groups, the employment rate for women was also well below that of the employment rate for men. Currently, 69 per cent of ethnic minority men are employed compared with 51 per cent of ethnic minority women.

Again Bangladeshi and Pakistani women were confirmed as having the lowest employment rates overall, and the largest employment rate differences between males and females, with differences of 36 per cent and 38 per cent respectively.

Despite the high achievements of some, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis were also shown to be most likely to be unqualified, with 30 per cent and 37 per cent having no qualification compared to 14 per cent for the overall population.
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#185 Posted by arjun_5 on February 3, 2008 6:28:22 am
this is how brit-pakis like zeemax and ally can close the income gap with brit-indians...and the 47% to 69% employment gap...

no...not education...more welfare...

Multiple wives will mean multiple benefits

By Jonathan Wynne-Jones
Last Updated: 2:36am GMT 03/02/2008

Have your say Read comments

Husbands with multiple wives have been given the go-ahead to claim extra welfare benefits following a year-long Government review, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
# Have your say: Should multiple wives get recognition from the state?

Even though bigamy is a crime in Britain, the decision by ministers means that polygamous marriages can now be recognised formally by the state, so long as the weddings took place in countries where the arrangement is legal.
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The outcome will chiefly benefit Muslim men with more than one wife, as is permitted under Islamic law. Ministers estimate that up to a thousand polygamous partnerships exist in Britain, although they admit there is no exact record.

The decision has been condemned by the Tories, who accused the Government of offering preferential treatment to a particular group, and of setting a precedent that would lead to demands for further changes in British law.

New guidelines on income support from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) state: "Where there is a valid polygamous marriage the claimant and one spouse will be paid the couple rate ... The amount payable for each additional spouse is presently £33.65."

Income support for all of the wives may be paid directly into the husband's bank account, if the family so choose. Under the deal agreed by ministers, a husband with multiple wives may also be eligible for additional housing benefit and council tax benefit to reflect the larger property needed for his family.

The ruling could cost taxpayers millions of pounds. Ministers launched a review of the benefit rules for polygamous marriages in November 2006, after it emerged that some families had benefited financially.
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#184 Posted by zeemax on February 3, 2008 6:24:39 am
Haha ... mirchi!
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#183 Posted by arjun_5 on February 3, 2008 6:12:49 am
long haul? you mean this one...
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#182 Posted by zeemax on February 3, 2008 5:55:29 am
I was flying back yesterday on a long-haul and there was a hindu sitting next to me. He smelt so bad that I had to fight with the crew to change my seat. Surely we must have not evolved from the same species of monkeys. Hindus seem to have evolved from a really smelly species of apes.
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#181 Posted by arjun_5 on February 3, 2008 4:53:17 am

any more than I believe man was evolved from fish who grew feet then came ashore then eventually took the shape of monkeys who started to walk upright through necessity of nature and also learnt to fly as birds.


Is this what they teach in paki schools in the chapter/course for evolution?

no wonder education in the land of the pure is so messed up..

i think madrassahs are a step up...
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#180 Posted by zeemax on February 3, 2008 4:19:35 am
... of-course, nowhere I'm implying one can get power from Jinns, any more than I believe man was evolved from fish who grew feet then came ashore then eventually took the shape of monkeys who started to walk upright through necessity of nature and also learnt to fly as birds.

But this is not an argument. Just a clarification towards the intent of my question below.
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#179 Posted by zeemax on February 3, 2008 4:13:08 am
#178 Posted by SR,

SR, I have never understood one thing. Perhaps you could shed light. I have asked hamidm too before but with no satisfactory response. Gill Saheb is probably an exception which proves the rule. Yourself and hamidm etc are the rule.

Atheism means no God or religion. Right? Which is fine and I guess that would imply leading a life moment to moment without any burdens or responsibility of Faith , which is fine too and religions do not insult that approach - they just propagate their own ...

My question is why do atheists insult religion with such venom? Why do they insult something which doesn't exist? Why do they not just argue their own approach? What's their beef? Religion (all religions) do not attack atheists, nor insult them since they consider them to be a fact of life ... and let them carry on with their beliefs.

How many religious people, even on this anon site let alone real life, have you seen who habitually and consistently insult atheists at every opportunity as if obsessed?

Your italicization of Muhammad in the interactor's name did not go unnoticed. Wonder why you had to do that.

Answer? I'm really curious and would like to know. How has religion harmed you personally? Why would you like to defame it? I recall your even posting something once re 9/11 implying it could only be some great diabolical power which carried it out. Surely that great diabolical power would not have been, in your well considered and educated opinion, some bearded men sitting in caves. Was I wrong? If I was, was it that event alone or there's something else here which I'm missing?

Thanks for the clarification. Just wanted to remove cobwebs.

Regards.
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#178 Posted by SR on February 3, 2008 1:27:59 am
Re: # 145 Muhammad Hamid wrote: ["... focus on providing primary education ... instead of creating another bureaucracy ... wasting good money on producing 'scholars' ... to harness the power of jinns to solve the energy cirsis ..."]

Shame on you Muhammad Hamid... The idea of getting energy from the jinnat is a damn good one. All we need to do is focus on the scientific research and apply the principles of the Quran, and before you know it, shezaam...!!! we'll have regained our glorious past inshallah

Just see what our Muslim brothers next door have found out by taking the approach I suggest above:

NASA Photos Prove Splitting of Moon

Tehran


The opening verses of the Sura Al-Qamar in the Qur’an talk about the miracle of Shaq-ul-Qamar (the splitting of the moon into two), and new photographs of the moon taken by NASA prove the miracle, said a prominent Islamic scholar. Addressing a conference titled “Splitting of the Moon, Miracle of Prophet Mohammad, Based of NASA’s Studies” at Tehran’s Imam Khomeini Mosalla, Ayatollah Abdulkareem Biazar Shirazi read out the first verse’s of Sura Al-Qamar: “The hour drew nigh and the moon did rend asunder” (54:1) and said “This verse is about a miracle performed by the Prophet (Pbuh) upon the request of the people of Makkah. The conference was organised by the cultural deputy of the Islamic Azad University on the sidelines of the 15th International Qur’an Exhibition, Scientists at NASA have determined that along with spiral and circular splits, there is a straight split going through the middle of the moon. They believe the split is the result of a meteor impact on the moon, whereas the shape of the split clearly shows that the moon has once been divided in two parts and then the two parts have come together again.

IINA


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#177 Posted by arjun_5 on February 2, 2008 5:35:19 pm
#176 Posted by gupangam on February 2, 2008 4:10:28 pm


Is there a Lower Education Commission (LEC)


No..but there is a JEC...jihadi education commission..otherwise known as the pakistani army...
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#176 Posted by gupangam on February 2, 2008 4:10:28 pm
I have a question prompted by some of the comments here. Is there a Lower Education Commission (LEC) in Pakistan that is spending at least as much as HEC (if not more) on achieving the same kind of (claimed) revolution in education at all levels from kindergarten to year 12 (Intermediate/Secondary?
Here is anther example of the scrambled priorities of the Pakistani government.
In the late 90's I remember passing the Lower Mall Road in Lahore near the Government Central Model High School at its opening hours. There were hundreds of young students dangerously trying to cross the road to get to the school. There was not a single traffic crossing anywhere in Lahore for children, the future of Pakistan. However, only a few hundred metres further up the road the Punjab government was expanding the shrine of Hazrat Data Gunj Bukhsh at a cost of Rs 200 million. Isn't there something seriously wrong here?
Can't the World Bank see that it is not the universities and the higher education in Pakistan but the early education centres neglected by the Pakistan government that are the main hot beds of terrorism funded by the Saudi money?
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#175 Posted by philosopher on February 2, 2008 8:16:19 am
Re: # 170 sattar2

''but I am not sure what disagreement you are referring to. I did see your post #816 where you rambled incoherently''

i was referring to the interact #807 not 816.Anyway.
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