Pakistan's Universities - Problems and Solutions

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Re: # 111

I believe Mr. Laddu, you directed this at me? Have you ever heard of contentment, that inner peace of not being able to own EVERYTHING? I don't mean asceticism or passive sufism which God abhors!

But then, materialism wipes out whatever little humanity one has by raising one's selfish standards while wiping out the poor and the voiceless. Do you live in America; I hope not!

As for: "When the Prophet’s (pbuh) wife put a cushion in his bed he got upset. He consciously lowered his standard of living."

You've added your own views to some historic report. Please quote the original source and I'll get back to you.

Islam polishes one's spirit, increases self-esteem and dignity, and helps everyone attain that too! If that is not happening around you, the fault does not lie in the system but in those individuals.

Peace.

Re: # 113

Mr. Laddu,
Allow me to thank you for addressing me with kindness, but also allow me to say something more.

You said:
This sunnat nonsense...
this eulogizing of Mohammad and his murderous actions...

I say:
Sunnah means what the prophet did and which did not go against God's commands. Along the way he was guided, corrected, and at times warned severely!

Again the litmus-test of the Sunnah is the Quran's text; interpretations can and indeed have varied but it's not impossible to be shown the light by God if one sincerely tried.

The Ramayana and Mahabharat wars are what exactly? Fighting over Sita with abductor Ravan is what? Please desist from bad-mouthing prophets; I've asked you for this before. Grow up from being a laddu to a 'moti-choor ka laddu', please...

And I have not been made familiar with the '40 plus shababiya age' bit as a Muslim. What is this that you mention anyway?

Peace.

Re: # 112

Are you still grappling with this basic question?

Tut..tut..tut...

The answer my friend, is reading the TEXT itself. Do that NOW!

Re: # 116
The Ramayana and Mahabharat wars are what exactly? Fighting over Sita with abductor Ravan is what?
Ans: There are thousands of sources of Ramayana. Read it.
Ramayana is not Sita alone. It is the story of Ram ( ideal son (left the kingdom to fulfill the promose of his father), ideal husband ( to bring back Sita from the clutch of abductors...), Ideal King). His entire life was struggle for others...
If Mo. was so humble, then from a poor financial background, how he had accumulated so much wealth when he had died? What crime is left which is not committed by Mo?

Re: # 117
Answer is, the biggest and most successful liar on earth committed the earliest work of plagrarism.

Re: # 119
and forgot to mention...add some lethal hatred, violent stuff like this....

Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. (Koran 22:19-22:23)

Re: # 120
sorry...
some sex as well...
Koran 37:40-48
...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered
eggs of ostriches.

Koran 44:51-55
...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)

Koran 52:17-20
...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris
(virgins) we shall wed them...

Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched
before. Then which of the favors of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favors of your Lord
will you deny ?"

Koran 56:7-40
...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving
companions for those on the right hand.. "

Koran 55:70-77
"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins
sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before...

Re: # 121
A+++ version of Mumbai movies...Large number of stupid follwers....

Pervez,

The clear beginning of an education system that has a future is when you can deliver an Abdus Salaam memorial lecture in pakistan. That is when the pak society comprising of the YLH and zeemaz of pakistan have accepted that scientific achievements cannot be derrogated by the religion of the scientist, that is when the pakistanis have accepted that the fountain sprigs of scietific enquiry is not poisoned by the religiosity of the islamic republic of pakistan.

Till then, and that day is unlikely to come in your life time, Pervez please keep trying.

Pervez,

What is below is from an opinion piece in dawn of yesterday. Before we talk about the university research, let us fix up the school books.

It is a tragedy that truthful articles that come in dawn etc. ever find their place in chowk. Chowk, increasingly is a pak govt mouth piece as any criticism of pakistan results in being banned from chowk.

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"I can’t take the liberty of advising my Hindu brothers and sisters across the border, but I can certainly expect sane elements in Pakistani society to think seriously about revising school and college textbooks so that they should reflect history somewhat rationally, and without describing Hindus as double-faced crooks and hypocrites who are out to shed Muslim blood.

Let us not forget that it were always the Muslims who invaded India, and that too not for the glory of Islam. Only Mohammad bin Qasim came for a valid reason but he too couldn’t resist conquering territories north of Sindh, perhaps, because in those times conquest was considered a legitimate activity.

There is this thing about calling names. I read a letter in a newspaper the other day about an Indian diplomat in Islamabad paying a social visit to a friendly Muslim family. It said that a small boy of five or six, coming to know that the guests were from India, began to shout “Hindu kutta! Hindu kutta!” Who had taught him that? His elders or a biased book on social studies digested by his senior brothers and sisters? In any case it can hardly be his fault for he was too young to know what he was doing. But his family should have been ashamed of his uncivil behaviour.

Re: # 124
There is this thing about calling names. I read a letter in a newspaper the other day about an Indian diplomat in Islamabad paying a social visit to a friendly Muslim family. It said that a small boy of five or six, coming to know that the guests were from India, began to shout “Hindu kutta! Hindu kutta!” Who had taught him that? His elders or a biased book on social studies digested by his senior brothers and sisters? In any case it can hardly be his fault for he was too young to know what he was doing. But his family should have been ashamed of his uncivil behaviour.

Ans: I think, this is expected. Those who have surendered their identity to barbaric arab invaders ( the very person, who had raped their ancestors, destroyed their architecture, literature), what else you expect from them?
Any respect for the land that feeds?
Any respect for the 5000 years of great culture which he is part of?
The situation in Bangladesh is more ridiculous....
These people will always be slave to somebody, due to lack of self respect (whether USA, Saudi Arab etc...).

Mr. Laddu as if you were not enough; now we have NKG to join the ranks! Amazing bigotry and ignorance, all learnt from newspapers and so-called Islamic websites!

The funny part is, despite your hatred for invaders (there were others apart from Arabs, by the way) you're still able to practise your faith, keep mother India, project the nudist Bollywood culture, and whatever else.

Today, the world is what it is because you provoke perfectly normal humans into becoming irrational fools.

Well, you've tried that with me. The ideal of my behaviour remains Muhammad, not Taliban.

As for the sin of venomous comments on this forum, the CHOWK editors must bear it.

Try the Raam way, if not the rakhshas Rawan way please...

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nkg,

Not so much an issue of self respect, but is that of an identity.

Pakistanis chose to take on the muslim identity, and they cannot go very far, because the leading light is in saudi arabia. They cannot take anything pre islamic, because that will destroy the TNT foundation.

Hence the poor pakistanis are doomed to be no-bodies. Many pakistanis in the west have tried to call themselves Desis, but no one else will take that identity.

It is a real tragedy, closest one can compare pakistan is to a congenital retarded child, blasted out by TNT.