Pakistan's Universities - Problems and Solutions

Re: # 157 GT

Its really quite simple. The fixed portion come out of only the 2/3rd of the estate; 1/3 of it can be bequethed through a will to anyone among those with fixed portions or outside like a friend or a charity. Among the fixed portion the residual is disbursed to the nearest living male of the family.

Re: # 157 GT

Its really quite simple. The fixed portion come out of only the 2/3rd of the estate; 1/3 of it can be bequethed through a will to anyone among those with fixed portions or outside like a friend or a charity. Among the fixed portion the residual is disbursed to the nearest living male of the family.

Re: # 160
"....... if we spend half as much time studying algebra as we spend on discussing who invented algebra we would be much better off ...... any muslim child can rattle off a dozen names of muslim scholars but can't tell his elbow from a hole in the ground ....... what a waste !".

There I agree with you. I can't understand the obsession of some Muslims with proving that Islam/muslims were somehow the first to demonstrate/prove this , that, or the other.

Unfortunately (or otherwise) I am not one of them. Actually (between me and you) I am ashamed to admit that I often spend sometime doing algebra; I have to teach it.

Pak identity

This is an article about the state of universities in pakistan and how to improve them.

All of the educated pakistanis have posted about teh islams contribution to science, the koranic science and you name it.

No one cared to mention any pakistani scientist let alone abdus salam.

All of the educated pakistanis have identified islam with pakistan.

Anything good done by any muslim any where and any time in history is claimed by these educated pakistanis.

There in lies the tragedy of pakistan and the victory of TNT.

TNT has sublimated any kind of cultural identity that the pakistanis could have had

Re: # 136

"I look towards my own sense of right and wrong and dont seek guidance from anyone."

Now find the answer to this huge problem in the Qur'an.

Happy hunting!

Re: # 148

And over which mountain do you sit proudly upon Mr. Beggar Ippi?

Horrible outburst of Sir (whoever)...

Even Babar disliked India but he stayed to rule.

The word PUNJAB is not an ancient word by the way!

All Sirs were stooges of the British; you don't get knighthoods for nothing!

Now give me a japhi (hug) and a kichi (brotherly kiss).

Peace.

Re: # 159

Please immediately seek professional help...

Re: # 160

"every community has its idiots but the mohammedans have more than their fair share ... as a matter of fact it is hard to find many sane people among the believers - even the best among us suffer from paranoia, schizophrenia and low self-esteem ........"

No, no! please don't do that to yourself. Don't inflict such wounds upon your tender soul.

Peace.

#162 Posted by Urstruly:

Urstruly,

Now you are taking me to be a fool. Sir, I understand all that. The article is very well written and I know what the article says. If you read the article carefully you will note that at times the state/lawmaker etc. has to regulate how the residual (if any) has to be divided (the article clearly and rightly states this, of course it is beyond Mr. Katz's comprehension). Now I am sure that lawmakers must have seiously thought over it and even argued about it and must have come up with different solutions at different times. I am interested in this DEBATE.

Regards.

tahmed,

Viewing the issue from a slightly different angle shows another major weakness in your position.

If Quran wanted to split the inheritance between son and daughter in 1:1 ratio, why did it not say so? Why did it set the ratio at 2:1 instead? What stopped Allah from making a simple statement of 1:1?

Note that Quran took radical stand on several issues: It emphatically prescribed belief in One, Absolute God, as opposed to numerous gods represented by 360-odd idols. This alone upset the social, political, and economic structure of the society. Quran also struck down racial discrimination, which was deeply rooted in the society. Furthermore, on the issue of righteousness, it put women squarely on equal footing with men. These are but a few examples … I hope you get the point.

But on the issue of inheritance, Quran chose to pussy-foot around the issue? Your view remains speculative and unsubstantiated.

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philo (#154);

I viewed the page and the following posts, but I am not sure what disagreement you are referring to. I did see your post #816 where you rambled incoherently. Try to be more specific and coherent this time …

Mr. Hoodbhoy is a miserable pessimist. Always a prophet of doom and gloom. I have been listening to him for last 15 years or so and never heard anything positive. I can see his presence in Pakistan and Quaid-i-Azam University has not made any difference to the University Education in Pakistan? I think Prof. Hoodbhoy should once move from his seat and take up the responsibilty of doing something positive to contribute. We shall all be very grateful. Have he ever written any article outlining any positive facts however few they may be???

Re: # 171
Mr. Hoodbhoy is a miserable pessimist...

Ans: Here goes the story of a broken man in West Bengal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhash_Mukhopadhyay_%28physician%29

Wh en the existing system is so wrotten, sometimes you loose patience...

#170 Posted by sattar2 on February 1, 2008 9:09:39 am


It emphatically prescribed belief in One, Absolute God, as opposed to numerous gods represented by 360-odd idols.


didn't the jews beat you to the punch?

arjun, in sattar sahib, you will find a lot of faith, but no logic.

Re: # 170 sattar2

''but I am not sure what disagreement you are referring to. I did see your post #816 where you rambled incoherently''

i was referring to the interact #807 not 816.Anyway.

I have a question prompted by some of the comments here. Is there a Lower Education Commission (LEC) in Pakistan that is spending at least as much as HEC (if not more) on achieving the same kind of (claimed) revolution in education at all levels from kindergarten to year 12 (Intermediate/Secondary?
Here is anther example of the scrambled priorities of the Pakistani government.
In the late 90's I remember passing the Lower Mall Road in Lahore near the Government Central Model High School at its opening hours. There were hundreds of young students dangerously trying to cross the road to get to the school. There was not a single traffic crossing anywhere in Lahore for children, the future of Pakistan. However, only a few hundred metres further up the road the Punjab government was expanding the shrine of Hazrat Data Gunj Bukhsh at a cost of Rs 200 million. Isn't there something seriously wrong here?
Can't the World Bank see that it is not the universities and the higher education in Pakistan but the early education centres neglected by the Pakistan government that are the main hot beds of terrorism funded by the Saudi money?