Monday Morning Blast in Rawalpindi ... An eyewitness account

Dada,
It is more like they can't do it...Is there a bigger power than the Army in Pakistan? think along those lines! more later... got to run!

Ms. Vahidy, I hope you had used your better judgment before posting this article on an anti-Pakistan website. I ask you again: Who authorized you to release Lt Col Bashir's name? ISPR and the Pakistani media chose not to make his name public. Did you seek his family's permission? Did you get any clearance from Army?

HP sain,

(Is there a bigger power than the Army in Pakistan?)

There are actually two:

1. America- But why wud it want Pak Army not to whack the jihadis?
2. Allah- This hypotheses of course makes more sense.

Regards

Ali,

(Who authorized you to release Lt Col Bashir's name? ISPR and the Pakistani media chose not to make his name public. )

Why would the GOP want to keep the name of a soldier who died on duty a secret?

Regards

Re: # 82

Do you have the locus standi to merit an answer from Mrs.Sabahat Vahidy?

#82 Posted by slyder,

ISPR didn't even mention any Lt Colonel. Besides they said 5 killed when it is 10. So forget about ISPR.

But I find it amusing how the author says "One Colonel is confirmed dead (martyred)"

How does a Doc get martyred while not even fighting anything but dysenteries - the most common disease in military hospitals?

Another wifey wrote sometime back about her deceased air force husband who was 'martyred' in a plane crash. Martyred while fighting whom? The damn plane? Sheesh ... he wasn't even flying the plane but a passenger.

Of all the self-deceivers, these take the prize.

Zee sahib,

#86

To be fair, they were killed while on duty weren't they. You can't expect non-combat members of the armed forces to be killed in actual fighting.

Regards

When a soldier dies with the boots on, he/she die on duty. When a terrorist targets them for indiscriminate killing as a chosen target, they die on the beck and call of duty. Its as simple as that.
Lets not make fun of those who are no more with us.
Soldieriung remains a noble profession nothwithstanding every thing else.

But I find it amusing how the author says "One Colonel is confirmed dead (martyred)"

Ans: May be died for the sake of nation, not for personal cause. The actual event may be an accident.

majumdar/ijaz_gul,

I'm not making fun of the deceased. I'm criticizing the terminology used to refer to the deceased. When a brick layer in dungarees and a hard hat is hit on the head by a falling girder, is he 'martyred'?

Or perhaps you mean that every soldier who dies an untimely death on duty while in uniform is 'martyred', but if the same was off-duty in civvies, he would have been just plainly 'killed' like other mere mortals?

C'mon gimme a break.

i am hard pressed to understand why we focus on suicide bombing and not on human death. after all, death is a death regardless of whether it comes through a bomber exploding himself in a crowded market or through a pilot dropping a bomb on cluster of houses.

i think we focus on suicide bomber, and not on the pilot, because suicide bomber typically represents a marginalized segment of population that none of us elitist computer junkies can relate to. He kills people who are "one of us"

A telling evidence of my above claim is the simple fact that despite the thousands of bombing raids that have been carried out by the pakistani miliatry in tribal areas, i have yet to come across an "eye witness" account of any of those bombings.

Re: # 12 skeptical,

You asked why did the suicide bombings and the jihadis start in the 1970s in pakistan. The reason is simple, that is when the children of TNT became mature to carry out those acts. The entire US and afghan connection for the jihad is simple non-sense. That is probably the only immediate cause. The fact that now it is supported by the pakistanis is the proof of it. The pak society was ripe for the jihad, the transition for TNT to RDX is linear.

Take the case of mukti bahini, Indian supported them, now it is no where in India. Take the tigers of sri-lanks, india supported it, now they are no where. When some activity is inimical to the values of society, it cannot take deep roots.

Jihad took deep roots because it is in tune with the founding values of TNT. The afghan war was the sunshine that germinated the dorment jihadic values of pakistan. Take the bhumian budhas, they survived all the so called islamic invaders, could not survive the pak madrassa products, and that is TNT for you. Pakistan has created a new strain of islam, TNT-islam now morphed into RDX- islam. Pakistan has to take the credit for it.

majumdar/ijaz_gul/zee ,
zee bhai were you not told that when you were out of home for school: if you had died you would had been martyred as you were out for a noble cause (education).

Epitaph( in lawn of faisal mosque isb): Gen. M. Zia-ul-Haq Shaheed.

and most of the religious party leaders recall him so.
Was he fighting with US Amb. in plane?

#93 Posted by goonga,

No he was fighting with the crate of mangoes!

hamidm,

Killing doctors is a favourite past time of pak jihadis. More than a hundred shia doctors were killed in Karachi.

Zeemax,

Why did the paki suicide bombers blow up underground in the UK. Why is the pak releaed hijacker from India a great religious leader in pakistan today. Why did anotehr pakistani released from india kill Danial pearl.

Tamil tigers have a political agenda, they are negotiating for peace with some identified entity. Jihadis want to kill any and all kafirs. Give some explanation for the involvement of pakistan in london bombings. Now in the spanish plot. Why they all come to pakistan for training.

#94 khekhekhezeezeezee