Talking to Jamil Dehlavi about Infinite Justice and More

Ras Saheb:

How is Jamil Indo- ? If he is Indo, so is every Pakistani above a certain age whose parents were born before the partition.

Re: # 84 I strongly second what RAS said , get back to article. Please no unrelated things.
There great demand may be dormant to for movies. Some govt help along with grants/donations from big business build some good state of art movie theatres and be run by good successful managers.
It is sad to see paksiani directors art works can not be shown due to lack of good movie theatres.
Mr.Arjun, Manto and all politically over oriented people go to political type articles and write there not here.

Re: # 81 thank you RAS. Your gravitas could stop this exchange - which I termed boring, and tedious and made a similar request in #17 is it that way back......

Red rag bull all come to mind....

Could we please stick to the article and its topic?

Ras

Ras,

Ok.

Who is Brig (Retd) Niaz who is being given much prominence in the
media. He is reputed to be an instructor of General (Retd) Musharaf
and currently is being viewed as the Grand Deal maker of Musraraf's
dying dispensation.


Brig. Niaz who hails from village Dharnial Tehsil Pind Dadan (where
majority profess to be followers of Ahmadi sect) was a sepoy clerk in
the Army. Due to shortage of officers after partition the Army started
a scheme whereby sepoy clerks were inducted into the officer ranks.
Brig Niaz was amongst those who benefited from this scheme. Brig Niaz
was amongst the three Brigadiers who played General Zia's game very
cleverly in 1977 in Lahore during the PNA movement in the sense that
they refused to come to the aid of an elected civil Government when it
wanted to quell violence unleashed by the Mullah dominated alliance.
The lawlessness in the country was later used as a pretext to impose
Martial Law. Contrast this to the officer's corps willingness to go on
killing a spree in Baluchistan, FATA, and Swat etc in order to save
the unelected Government of an Army dictator. In retrospect the
refusal to obey a civilian Governments order during a mullah lead
campaign also confirms existence of Mullah – Military Alliance.


After retirement from the Army Brig. Niaz started a food outlet in
Lalkurti area of Rawalpindi Cantonment. His luck changed when General
Zia Ul Haq summoned him and Brig (Retd) Ashraf Gondal (the other Brig
at Lahore in 1977) and introduced them to the executives of Swedish
(Ericsson) and Swiss (Orlikon) firms who were in the process of
receiving huge Defense supply orders from the Army. Both these
Brigadiers acted as front men for Zia Ul Haq. Multimillion dollars
orders were placed for Law Altitude Defense Radars (LADS) with
Ericsson of Sweden and for anti aircraft guns Orlikons with the Swiss
Company. It is reported that these two deals netted a commission of
nearly 100 million US Dollars which these Brigadiers shared with
Zia Ul Haq.


After becoming a millionaire in Dollar terms Brig. Niaz started living
lavishly and entertaining lavishly. Parvaiz Musharaf was amongst the
group of officers who were regularly supplied with all sorts of booze
and other things in life courtesy the Brigadier who also employed Col.
(Retd) Aslam Cheema a course mate and best friend (closer then Tariq
Aziz) of Musharraf and after Musharraf's uncle retired he too was
appointed as an office Manager in Niaz's Business.


After Musharaf became the President Cheema became the main Defense
supplier and a partner of Niaz. Both have managed to snatch the
agencies of old established defense agents by forcing the suppliers to
change agents if they wanted business in Pakistan. Over the last four
years Cheema and Niaz (both Ahmedi's) have managed to secure following
businesses:-


1) Supply of tank engines for Al - Khalid & Al- Zarar tanks
from Ukraine – worth nearly 500 millions US Dollars.


2) Supply of Early warning system for Air force from SAAB
Sweden worth 1.2 Billion US Dollars. This deal signed one week after
the earthquake of October 2005 was originally for 650 Million US
Dollars. Niaz over invoiced it by US Dollars 550 million. What a rape
of a poor country's resources.


In addition Niaz & Cheema are now the biggest contractor/suppliers in
Civil Departments. One of their front Companies will be building the
new GHQ worth billions of rupees. Obviously Mush gets a big share of
this bounty.


Niaz's recommendation matters the most in securing promotions and good
postings both in the Army as well as on the Civilian side.

Hi Manto, VRV, arjun, majumdar etc.

Could we please get back to Infinite Justice and

Jamil Dehlavi?

Has anyone seen this movie yet?

Ras

Re: # 78

Look beyond personal knowledge, as someone born in an Ahmadi family, I have no evidence of it.

But surely you can produce a single Ahmadi success story in India... like you keep parading Premji as some sort of an achievement.

Majumdar,

Yaar ... I don't expect such simplistic arguments from you. Are you denying that Muslims, including Ahmadis, were butched en masse in East Punjab? If your objection is to my painting Congress as wholely responsible for it... then you should know that this was a counter-point to the outrageous claim that Jinnah and the Muslim League some how caused this, which doesn't make any historical sense.

Ananth,

You've missed the point altogether. I am not condoning Pakistan's current status which I think is the very negation of the ideal of Pakistan (Read "Rest in peace Pakistan")... my point was a factual one. An Ahmadi from India cannot perform hajj unless he impliedly or explicity states that he is a Non-Ahmadi.


Salman B. Khan,

It is not blasphemy but there is an outrageous law that may be construed to disallow them.

However the courts have allowed the use of Quran and Muslim forms of worship as they are integral to Ahmadi Islam which follows the Hanafi sunnism.

My father, who has been brought up here, was a very religious man though very personally... his office was full of Islamic religious symbols including the Kalima and he was never harassed for it.

64 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 5:02:48 am


But despite that Ahmadis from India throng to get their children married to Ahmadis in Pakistan so that they can live in Pakistan.


And I presume you have some evidence to back that up...preferably, evidence that isn't tainted with the remains of last night's meal..

Re: # 75 so you can leave it blank and no entry is made? is that correct

Indian passport states the religion of a person as he per the applicants desire....... does not change the persons religion as Pakistan does...

Khurram,

No. Indian passport does not have Religion, yet. Mercifully.

Regards

Re: Khurram: No, an Indian passport does not mention ones religion.

Re #68, "Indian passport says a person is “muslim” ..."

Indian passport has a religion entry! Is this correct?

Manto mian,

There is a puzzle here. INC and MKG were bloodthirsty fascists who were out for Muslim blood in Punjab but not elsewhere in India including Bengal (the other province which got partitioned). Looks like INC/MKG were not only fascists but also suffering from split personalities.

Regards