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Re: # 64 Ahmadi is basically a Punjabi religion just like Sikh religion.Later on however Ahmadis made converts in Europe,Africa and many parts of Asia.

Manto..

Is it not humialtaing to lie about your religion to perform hajj…. Things may only get tougher .

Indian passport says a person is “muslim” if he wants to be called a muslim …. That’s what a ahmadi is by “choice”….. In pakistan he is called “non-muslim” in his passport….. he does not have a choice…..

FYI... if an Ahmadi from India was to declare to Saudis that he was an Ahmadi Muslim, he would not be allowed to perform Hajj.. because Saudis don't allow Ahmadis hajj.

So the only way an Ahmadi can peform hajj, whether a Pakistani, Indian, American, British or Ugandan is by claiming that he is either a shia or a sunni Muslim.

Fine. But how many Ahmadi success stories do you have in India?

#64

In India Ahmadi’s passport will show them as “muslim”….. In Pakistan after marriage the pakistani passport will show the same person as ‘non-muslim”….. not allowed to perform hajjj….

Re: # 59

Yes. And that is wrong. But despite that Ahmadis from India throng to get their children married to Ahmadis in Pakistan so that they can live in Pakistan.

Why? I think the answer is something much simpler.

Re: # 61

What new found belief?

Yaar Arjun mian,

There are thousands of people who attended his funeral. It was advertised in Jang and Nawai-Waqt on 11th December, 2007. So you can go shove it.

Using my personal tragedy for point scoring is a novel way. It shows your utter lack of humanity (which is simply because you follow Gandhiism as a creed) obvious and may you go through the same pain and hurt that you cause others.

No point in grilling Mantolives abt his new found belief in Mohammedanism. Since he has political ambitions he had to be Mohammedan. It's good that he want to turn Pakistan into a secular state. I see secular Pakistan on the horizon.

Actually he's a pioneer in a way that even Bilawal Zardari took Mantolives for inspiration and became Bilawal Bhutto.

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Manto,

Are you allowed to perform Hajj ? was your faher allowed to perform hajj ?

Manto,

Are you allowed to perform Hajj ? was your faher allowed to perform hajj ?

#48 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 4:05:59 am


the post-1974 discrimination against Ahmadis exists largely on paper.


Papers like this paper released by the ahmadiyya community on persecution of ahmadiyyas in the land of the pure?

http://www.thepersecution.org/dl/2007/annual_report2007.pdf