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Accepted what? You guys don't even let untouchables come in the same house as you or drink the same water as you... Besides I am neither a Muslim nor anything else to be concerned with this nonsense.

What I do know is that Ahmadis have been organizing separate graveyards ever since they emerged as a community. It is the right of every community to do so. It is as futile an objection as saying that all Indians should be cremated because burial creates distinction.


As for separate Mosques...last I checked the Christians have catholic churches, protestant churches, anglican, presbyterian, southern baptist, and so on and so forth...
Do you think all denominations should be forced to create a single church?

Either you are an idiot or you are just plain dishonest... coming from a casteist and unequal society like India as you do, your naivety is all the more alarming.

You have accepted separate mosques… separate graveyards…. May be next on the line is separate seats in the local bus….

Re: # 51

So you want Shias, Ismailis and Ahmadis to be forced to pray behind the majority i.e. Sunni?

Re: # 49

Arjunm,

Dr. Salam was buried with Muslim rites. So was my father. It is a fact. My father is now dead. I would not lie about this. Not only that but like I pointed out the court has applied Islamic law of inheritance to his assets.


Ahmadis have operated their independent graveyards since 1908 and even before. Do you think that was because of discrimination or because they chose to bury their dead in a communal graveyard? What about the period between 1908 and 1979 ?

separate mosques... separate graveyards..... what more is needed for disriminination ?????

In India dead of all castes are cremated in the same electric crematoriums.

#44 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 3:58:18 am

right..they wiped out the muslim from Dr Salam's gravestone and let your dad have muslim last rites...

that's even less believable than the anthony mitchell articles you were posting...

p.s. is the graveyard a muslim graveyard or is it like the south in the 60s..separate but equal hint hint..?

Ananth...

Like I said my late father's life and the manner of his last rites is proof enough of the fact that the post-1974 discrimination against Ahmadis exists largely on paper.

As for Islam being egalitarian... while I am not a believer in anything, try asking an Ahmadi if he think Islam is egalitarian or not.

" Yes...Ahmadis have been organizing and operating their own exclusive communal graveyards since 1908, as have Shias, and some Sunnis. So your point is ridiculous. "....... Egalatarian islamic society

Manto

Ahmadis are undergoing state sponsored discrimination in Pakistan. Ahmadis are not muslim enough. For the mullahs. And you claim Islam is egalitarian ???

If not for Iran… Sunni mullahs would have declared shia as heretic too

PS; Suffice to say, my father lived and died as a Pakistani and was extremely well respected by all he knew as an honest man of integrity ... whose funeral was attended by several top politicians and businessmen of Punjab.

For me personally it shattered the myth of "bad ahmadi" and Nazi-style discrimination taught to me entirely on Chowk.

Ofcourse there are many problems but it certainly isn't how idiots like arjun-m and jayp portray it.

1. Yes. And many non-Ahmadis- including some Jamaat-e-Islami members attended the funeral services.

2. Yes...Ahmadis have been organizing and operating their own exclusive communal graveyards since 1908, as have Shias, and some Sunnis. So your point is ridiculous.

#41 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 3:53:38 am


did your dad have muslim last rites?

is he buried in a muslim graveyard?

Re: # 40

Again apples and oranges. The issue here was Gandhi's Congress Party's ethnic cleansing and genocide of Muslims in East Punjab ... which accounted for most of the violence in 1947's partition.

Let us stick to the topic

It is a fact. Can you name an important Ahmadi businessman, doctor, lawyer, civil servant etc in India? Don't name Justice A N Ahmadi because he was not Ahmadi but a simple sunni Muslim as far as I know

Now how about your source for your lies that you came up with earlier?

#31 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 3:22:22 am


India had Hyderabad, Delhi, UP, parts of Kerala... pockets of large Muslim populations.

Can you think of similar areas in Pakistan or Bangladesh.


yes..it proves your point that you've wiped out your minority to the point where it's less than 3% of your population...5% max if we include ahmedis like you...

pureland..land of the pure...95% pure and getting purer everyday...