Ras Siddiqui February 9, 2008
#49 Posted by arjun_5 on February 11, 2008 4:06:42 am
#44 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 3:58:18 am
right..they wiped out the muslim from Dr Salam's gravestone and let your dad have muslim last rites...
that's even less believable than the anthony mitchell articles you were posting...
p.s. is the graveyard a muslim graveyard or is it like the south in the 60s..separate but equal hint hint..?
right..they wiped out the muslim from Dr Salam's gravestone and let your dad have muslim last rites...
that's even less believable than the anthony mitchell articles you were posting...
p.s. is the graveyard a muslim graveyard or is it like the south in the 60s..separate but equal hint hint..?
#50 Posted by Ananth07 on February 11, 2008 4:06:57 am
In India dead of all castes are cremated in the same electric crematoriums.
#51 Posted by Ananth07 on February 11, 2008 4:11:27 am
separate mosques... separate graveyards..... what more is needed for disriminination ?????
#52 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 4:13:50 am
Re: # 49
Arjunm,
Dr. Salam was buried with Muslim rites. So was my father. It is a fact. My father is now dead. I would not lie about this. Not only that but like I pointed out the court has applied Islamic law of inheritance to his assets.
Ahmadis have operated their independent graveyards since 1908 and even before. Do you think that was because of discrimination or because they chose to bury their dead in a communal graveyard? What about the period between 1908 and 1979 ?
Arjunm,
Dr. Salam was buried with Muslim rites. So was my father. It is a fact. My father is now dead. I would not lie about this. Not only that but like I pointed out the court has applied Islamic law of inheritance to his assets.
Ahmadis have operated their independent graveyards since 1908 and even before. Do you think that was because of discrimination or because they chose to bury their dead in a communal graveyard? What about the period between 1908 and 1979 ?
#53 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 4:14:23 am
Re: # 51
So you want Shias, Ismailis and Ahmadis to be forced to pray behind the majority i.e. Sunni?
So you want Shias, Ismailis and Ahmadis to be forced to pray behind the majority i.e. Sunni?
#54 Posted by Ananth07 on February 11, 2008 4:20:22 am
You have accepted separate mosques… separate graveyards…. May be next on the line is separate seats in the local bus….
#55 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 4:25:39 am
Accepted what? You guys don't even let untouchables come in the same house as you or drink the same water as you... Besides I am neither a Muslim nor anything else to be concerned with this nonsense.
What I do know is that Ahmadis have been organizing separate graveyards ever since they emerged as a community. It is the right of every community to do so. It is as futile an objection as saying that all Indians should be cremated because burial creates distinction.
As for separate Mosques...last I checked the Christians have catholic churches, protestant churches, anglican, presbyterian, southern baptist, and so on and so forth...
Do you think all denominations should be forced to create a single church?
Either you are an idiot or you are just plain dishonest... coming from a casteist and unequal society like India as you do, your naivety is all the more alarming.
#56 Posted by arjun_5 on February 11, 2008 4:34:22 am
#48 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 4:05:59 am
the post-1974 discrimination against Ahmadis exists largely on paper.
Papers like this paper released by the ahmadiyya community on persecution of ahmadiyyas in the land of the pure?
http://www.thepersecution.org/dl/2007/annual_report2007.pdf
the post-1974 discrimination against Ahmadis exists largely on paper.
Papers like this paper released by the ahmadiyya community on persecution of ahmadiyyas in the land of the pure?
http://www.thepersecution.org/dl/2007/annual_report2007.pdf
#57 Posted by Ananth07 on February 11, 2008 4:34:43 am
Manto,
Are you allowed to perform Hajj ? was your faher allowed to perform hajj ?
Are you allowed to perform Hajj ? was your faher allowed to perform hajj ?
#58 Posted by Ananth07 on February 11, 2008 4:34:50 am
Manto,
Are you allowed to perform Hajj ? was your faher allowed to perform hajj ?
Are you allowed to perform Hajj ? was your faher allowed to perform hajj ?
#59 Posted by arjun_5 on February 11, 2008 4:37:11 am
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#61 Posted by VRV on February 11, 2008 4:44:02 am
No point in grilling Mantolives abt his new found belief in Mohammedanism. Since he has political ambitions he had to be Mohammedan. It's good that he want to turn Pakistan into a secular state. I see secular Pakistan on the horizon.
Actually he's a pioneer in a way that even Bilawal Zardari took Mantolives for inspiration and became Bilawal Bhutto.
Actually he's a pioneer in a way that even Bilawal Zardari took Mantolives for inspiration and became Bilawal Bhutto.
#62 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 4:58:49 am
Yaar Arjun mian,
There are thousands of people who attended his funeral. It was advertised in Jang and Nawai-Waqt on 11th December, 2007. So you can go shove it.
Using my personal tragedy for point scoring is a novel way. It shows your utter lack of humanity (which is simply because you follow Gandhiism as a creed) obvious and may you go through the same pain and hurt that you cause others.
There are thousands of people who attended his funeral. It was advertised in Jang and Nawai-Waqt on 11th December, 2007. So you can go shove it.
Using my personal tragedy for point scoring is a novel way. It shows your utter lack of humanity (which is simply because you follow Gandhiism as a creed) obvious and may you go through the same pain and hurt that you cause others.
#64 Posted by MantoLives on February 11, 2008 5:02:48 am
Re: # 59
Yes. And that is wrong. But despite that Ahmadis from India throng to get their children married to Ahmadis in Pakistan so that they can live in Pakistan.
Why? I think the answer is something much simpler.
Yes. And that is wrong. But despite that Ahmadis from India throng to get their children married to Ahmadis in Pakistan so that they can live in Pakistan.
Why? I think the answer is something much simpler.
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