Yasser Latif Hamdani February 11, 2008
#353 Posted by izuber on April 7, 2008 8:03:53 pm
This all sounds so childish, apparently free from any intellect interActors are acting in a playful manner with their 2 cents worth, deserving a short response: he he he he, or, may be a LoL, mein manjhi kithay pawaan?
#352 Posted by MantoLives on February 18, 2008 9:49:42 pm
In retrospect, I was right about the ethnic parties and PPP. Got PML-N and the Chaudhry PML wrong.
All in all the people of Pakistan have spoken. They have cast their vote for Jinnah's federal democratic and I daresay secular Pakistan.
That is what matters. Pakistan Zindabad.
#351 Posted by laddu on February 17, 2008 7:36:30 pm
Re: # 338
Hamid mia,
Deoband guys are not idiots enough to do anything that would make them face fire and lynching from common idolators. That is the way to talk to them. They know it and keep themselves well behaved in idolator land.
But here is what Hamid gul is hoping and predicting on behalf of Zeemax and Truly bhais type-
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Ex-ISI chief foresees Iran-like revolution in Pak
18 Feb 2008, 0859 hrs IST,PTI
TORONTO: Former chief of Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) has said "an Iran-like revolution" is possible in the country if President Pervez Musharraf does not step down immediately.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Ex-ISI_chief_foresees_Iran-like_revolutio n_in_Pak/articleshow/2791020.cms
Hamid mia,
Deoband guys are not idiots enough to do anything that would make them face fire and lynching from common idolators. That is the way to talk to them. They know it and keep themselves well behaved in idolator land.
But here is what Hamid gul is hoping and predicting on behalf of Zeemax and Truly bhais type-
-
Ex-ISI chief foresees Iran-like revolution in Pak
18 Feb 2008, 0859 hrs IST,PTI
TORONTO: Former chief of Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) has said "an Iran-like revolution" is possible in the country if President Pervez Musharraf does not step down immediately.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Ex-ISI_chief_foresees_Iran-like_revolutio n_in_Pak/articleshow/2791020.cms
#350 Posted by arjun_5 on February 17, 2008 1:51:07 pm
Musharraf calls Iftikhar “scum of the earth”
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: President Pervez Musharraf has called former chief justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry “the scum of the earth – a third-rate man – a corrupt man.”
In an interview to Jemima Khan, published in the Independent, London, on Sunday, the president said of the lawyers’ movement against the chief justice’s dismissal, “With hindsight, it was my personal error that I allowed them to go and express their views in the street. … We should have controlled them in the beginning before it got out of control.”
The president told Imran Khan’s former wife, who writes off and on for British newspapers, “At least we part on agreement.” He was referring to her remark, “It will be the saddest day for Pakistan if Benazir’s crooked widower is in power by Monday.”
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: President Pervez Musharraf has called former chief justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry “the scum of the earth – a third-rate man – a corrupt man.”
In an interview to Jemima Khan, published in the Independent, London, on Sunday, the president said of the lawyers’ movement against the chief justice’s dismissal, “With hindsight, it was my personal error that I allowed them to go and express their views in the street. … We should have controlled them in the beginning before it got out of control.”
The president told Imran Khan’s former wife, who writes off and on for British newspapers, “At least we part on agreement.” He was referring to her remark, “It will be the saddest day for Pakistan if Benazir’s crooked widower is in power by Monday.”
#349 Posted by anil on February 17, 2008 9:45:07 am
Massaddi Mian:
Amount of time you spend in explaning "Logical Speculation" shows where your priorities are. No wonder that you are unable to observe beauty in rest of the world. Learning never stops, Massaddi Mian. Of all people you must know it. Are you not a teacher?
Amount of time you spend in explaning "Logical Speculation" shows where your priorities are. No wonder that you are unable to observe beauty in rest of the world. Learning never stops, Massaddi Mian. Of all people you must know it. Are you not a teacher?
#348 Posted by anil on February 17, 2008 9:40:46 am
Re: # 327
Romair:
There is lot of posturing that is going on with Iran. There is cooperation too. Did you read the news of U.S. Iranian officials meeting last week? Only confrontation is obvious.
Please consider, how many times, the U.S. President has gone to public to reverse a policy and says that there is no nuclear program in Iran to make nuclear bomb? How many times, an ex-President in Op-ed has said that the U.S. must negotiate with Iran? Iran is indeed forging a strong identity in democratic fashion for the U.S. Presidents to respond even when there are no diplomatic relations. Ahmednijad is bold, he indeed made bold - albeit wrong - statements at Columbia University. I am certain Gandhi wearing lion clothe to meet the King made bold statement too. The U.K. press must have joked, and in that cold british weather, it could not be a right statement. My point is bold expressions are needed, for that flying planes into WTC is not needed.
I have said many times that if a nation is committed to get technology which is over 60 years old, they would get it. Pakistan and India proved it. I am certain oil consuming economies are aware of this reality also. In my scenario, Israel Palestine will co exist, and problems too will co exist, new one will be created. A problem, there keeps problem away from oil. Think of problem areas as anthills. Only in anthills, ants keep themselves voluntarily away from sweets.
The only solution to that problem is, if a Palestinian Gandhi can emerge. Neither the U.S., not Israel are in any rush to find that solution there and to make anthills disappear, for ants to appear near the sweet (oil).
Such a Gandhi can emerge from a group of Islamists like Zeemax sahibs, when they are ready to shed violence. They must first shed violence. Key word here is, "First".
Other things you mention regarding medicines etc., I have lumped them under "bombing democracry into Iraq, which has failed.
I presented a scenario that I think is being played out. You may not find it plausible.
Romair:
There is lot of posturing that is going on with Iran. There is cooperation too. Did you read the news of U.S. Iranian officials meeting last week? Only confrontation is obvious.
Please consider, how many times, the U.S. President has gone to public to reverse a policy and says that there is no nuclear program in Iran to make nuclear bomb? How many times, an ex-President in Op-ed has said that the U.S. must negotiate with Iran? Iran is indeed forging a strong identity in democratic fashion for the U.S. Presidents to respond even when there are no diplomatic relations. Ahmednijad is bold, he indeed made bold - albeit wrong - statements at Columbia University. I am certain Gandhi wearing lion clothe to meet the King made bold statement too. The U.K. press must have joked, and in that cold british weather, it could not be a right statement. My point is bold expressions are needed, for that flying planes into WTC is not needed.
I have said many times that if a nation is committed to get technology which is over 60 years old, they would get it. Pakistan and India proved it. I am certain oil consuming economies are aware of this reality also. In my scenario, Israel Palestine will co exist, and problems too will co exist, new one will be created. A problem, there keeps problem away from oil. Think of problem areas as anthills. Only in anthills, ants keep themselves voluntarily away from sweets.
The only solution to that problem is, if a Palestinian Gandhi can emerge. Neither the U.S., not Israel are in any rush to find that solution there and to make anthills disappear, for ants to appear near the sweet (oil).
Such a Gandhi can emerge from a group of Islamists like Zeemax sahibs, when they are ready to shed violence. They must first shed violence. Key word here is, "First".
Other things you mention regarding medicines etc., I have lumped them under "bombing democracry into Iraq, which has failed.
I presented a scenario that I think is being played out. You may not find it plausible.
#347 Posted by CheGuevara on February 17, 2008 8:39:30 am
Re: # 345
LundFaqir pehlay apni bund band ker, boo bauhat aari hai. Idher terayko customer nahi milta.
LundFaqir pehlay apni bund band ker, boo bauhat aari hai. Idher terayko customer nahi milta.
#346 Posted by hamidm2 on February 17, 2008 8:38:25 am
Re: # 345
fakir mian,
..... why are you lumping arjun mian, hazrat tahmed (pbuh in advance) and me together ?
.... tahmed is not a mirzai and certainly not a murtad (he is just a man in search of a new religion)
..... i am not a mirzai and just a borderline murtad
..... arjun is a horrible hindoo (worse than a mirzai, but certainly not a murtad)
.... and why are you so upset at me? i don't think i have ever interacted with you unless you have appeared here under a different avatar .....
fakir mian,
..... why are you lumping arjun mian, hazrat tahmed (pbuh in advance) and me together ?
.... tahmed is not a mirzai and certainly not a murtad (he is just a man in search of a new religion)
..... i am not a mirzai and just a borderline murtad
..... arjun is a horrible hindoo (worse than a mirzai, but certainly not a murtad)
.... and why are you so upset at me? i don't think i have ever interacted with you unless you have appeared here under a different avatar .....
#345 Posted by FakirIppi on February 17, 2008 8:15:04 am
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#342 Posted by arjun_5 on February 17, 2008 7:49:47 am
#341 Posted by masadi on February 17, 2008 7:19:18 am
what it did in Lebanon in July of 2006
The lebs don't like it...tough...they shouldn't have sheltered hezbollah to begin with..
first they shelter hezbollah..then they whine about israel blowing up their bridges? who said that the practioners of the religion of peace get to decide the rules of retaliation and what kind of retaliation is justified?
what it did in Lebanon in July of 2006
The lebs don't like it...tough...they shouldn't have sheltered hezbollah to begin with..
first they shelter hezbollah..then they whine about israel blowing up their bridges? who said that the practioners of the religion of peace get to decide the rules of retaliation and what kind of retaliation is justified?
#341 Posted by masadi on February 17, 2008 7:19:18 am
hamid writes "...... israel is just a bogey man used by the ummah as an excuse for their own failures ......... "
It is no "bogey man"- what it did in Lebanon in July of 2006, not to mention its history in the region proves that, but it does not call the original shots, it is merely a piracy outpost of the US elite to keep the area and its resources in check and to prevent any people's movement from engulfing the area to get rid of the tin pots they control...and finally what is a 'bogey man' for peons of the white man is the idea of a so-called ummah when there is none, not even a semblance of one, and the failures of that area can most definiately be traced to their immediate history, traced to the white man and his BS, and to the governments he has supported and most definitely to the piracy outpost the white man has set up in that area- ISRAEL....
It is no "bogey man"- what it did in Lebanon in July of 2006, not to mention its history in the region proves that, but it does not call the original shots, it is merely a piracy outpost of the US elite to keep the area and its resources in check and to prevent any people's movement from engulfing the area to get rid of the tin pots they control...and finally what is a 'bogey man' for peons of the white man is the idea of a so-called ummah when there is none, not even a semblance of one, and the failures of that area can most definiately be traced to their immediate history, traced to the white man and his BS, and to the governments he has supported and most definitely to the piracy outpost the white man has set up in that area- ISRAEL....
#340 Posted by Pew_Research on February 17, 2008 7:09:04 am
Re: # 326
Under Saudi law, the death penalty is mandatory for a long list of crimes including murder, rape, drug trafficking, sodomy (now called same sex love in San Francisco, New York, and Boston) and armed robbery. Saudi law allows the death penalty for a number of crimes. For example:
Murder
Adultery
Rape
Sexual misconduct
Apostasy
Homosexuality
Drug-related crime
Sedition
Witchcraft
In addition, here is the travel warning given to tourists about Saudi on WikiTravel:
“Homosexuality is punishable by death.
Drug smuggling is punishable by death.
Adultery is punishable by death if you are married, and lashes if not.
Apostasy (Converting from Islam) is eventually punishable by death."
:)
Under Saudi law, the death penalty is mandatory for a long list of crimes including murder, rape, drug trafficking, sodomy (now called same sex love in San Francisco, New York, and Boston) and armed robbery. Saudi law allows the death penalty for a number of crimes. For example:
Murder
Adultery
Rape
Sexual misconduct
Apostasy
Homosexuality
Drug-related crime
Sedition
Witchcraft
In addition, here is the travel warning given to tourists about Saudi on WikiTravel:
“Homosexuality is punishable by death.
Drug smuggling is punishable by death.
Adultery is punishable by death if you are married, and lashes if not.
Apostasy (Converting from Islam) is eventually punishable by death."
:)
#339 Posted by arjun_5 on February 17, 2008 7:07:23 am
why don't you ask your government to bomb the jihadi factory in deoband
why would india want to bomb the people who're killing pakis?
#338 Posted by hamidm2 on February 17, 2008 6:27:00 am
Re: # 335
laddu,
..... why don't you ask your government to bomb the jihadi factory in deoband and impose a tax on beards and burqas in india ? .... show us how to do it... thank you for your cooperation
laddu,
..... why don't you ask your government to bomb the jihadi factory in deoband and impose a tax on beards and burqas in india ? .... show us how to do it... thank you for your cooperation
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