Yasser Latif Hamdani February 11, 2008
#225 Posted by zeemax on February 16, 2008 4:40:08 am
#224 Posted by masadi,
but tell me masadi, will the peons of the white man be now enslaved to the black man if obama wins?
I guess so. That will be quite an amusing paradigm shift in the 'peons' character.
(tahmed sahib, no reference to you or anyone in particular. Just picking masadi's mind:)
but tell me masadi, will the peons of the white man be now enslaved to the black man if obama wins?
I guess so. That will be quite an amusing paradigm shift in the 'peons' character.
(tahmed sahib, no reference to you or anyone in particular. Just picking masadi's mind:)
#224 Posted by masadi on February 16, 2008 4:35:11 am
tauheed writes "In my tireless struggle ("mein kampf") to bring realism to chowk,"
Realism as in America is fighting a good war, liberating millions (from life) for the cause of freedom and democracy, and that colonization of India by the British was great for it, and that rednecks are polite mannered and open minded people....who the hell do you think chowk readers are? A bunch of retards and morons to fall for crap like this? The day of the rule of the white man is over, hear this well tahmed you miserable peon of the West, once the mind is freed of enslavement to the white man, his days of rule are over, that is what he is shit scared of and that is what you should be scared of as well. We understand your propaganda and know that it is horse shit...
Realism as in America is fighting a good war, liberating millions (from life) for the cause of freedom and democracy, and that colonization of India by the British was great for it, and that rednecks are polite mannered and open minded people....who the hell do you think chowk readers are? A bunch of retards and morons to fall for crap like this? The day of the rule of the white man is over, hear this well tahmed you miserable peon of the West, once the mind is freed of enslavement to the white man, his days of rule are over, that is what he is shit scared of and that is what you should be scared of as well. We understand your propaganda and know that it is horse shit...
#223 Posted by zeemax on February 16, 2008 4:34:28 am
#222 Posted by tahmed32,
Totally ignorant thoughts expressed in this article. Sorry.
Totally ignorant thoughts expressed in this article. Sorry.
#222 Posted by tahmed32 on February 16, 2008 4:19:50 am
In my tireless struggle ("mein kampf") to bring realism to chowk, I am posting the following article. Hamidm can therefore go to bed secure in the knowledge that the mighty "Taliban" are in fact a bunch of hoodlums lacking grass-roots support and who are a problem only because Mush and Bush have been doing their Keystone Cops routine titled "War on Terrorism".
In Pakistan, Islam Needs Democracy
By WALEED ZIAD (New York Times)
Published: February 16, 2008
Excerpts:
WHILE it’s good news that secular moderates are expected to dominate Pakistan’s parliamentary elections on Monday, nobody here thinks the voting will spell the end of militant extremism...The only long-term solution may lie in the hands of an overlooked natural ally in the war on terrorism: the Pakistani people.
This may come as a surprise to Americans, but the Wahhabist religion professed by the militants is more foreign to most Pakistanis than Karachi’s 21 KFCs. This is true even of the tribal North-West Frontier Province — after all, a 23-foot-tall Buddha that was severely damaged last fall by the Taliban there had stood serenely for a thousand years amid an orthodox Muslim population. ...The many militant outfits in the frontier regions are far from a unified popular movement. Rather, they are best characterized as ethnic or sectarian gangs, regularly changing names and loyalties. More often than battling the army, they engage each other in violent turf wars. For many of them — some with only a handful of members — “Taliban” is a convenient brand name that awards them the status of international resistance fighters. It is not uncommon for highway bandits to declare themselves Taliban when stealing tape decks from vehicles....(however) while the Pakistani public condemns Talibanism, it is also opposed to the way the war on terrorism has been waged in Pakistan. People are horrified by the thousands of civilian and military casualties and the militants’ retaliatory attacks in major cities... This has led to the belief that this war is for “Busharraf” rather than the Pakistani people...If we (americans) can bear in mind that our long-term interests are the same as those of average Pakistanis, the challenges of fighting the militants and rebuilding credibility may not be as daunting as they seem.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/opinion/16ziad.html?_r=1&hp&a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;o ref=slogin
In Pakistan, Islam Needs Democracy
By WALEED ZIAD (New York Times)
Published: February 16, 2008
Excerpts:
WHILE it’s good news that secular moderates are expected to dominate Pakistan’s parliamentary elections on Monday, nobody here thinks the voting will spell the end of militant extremism...The only long-term solution may lie in the hands of an overlooked natural ally in the war on terrorism: the Pakistani people.
This may come as a surprise to Americans, but the Wahhabist religion professed by the militants is more foreign to most Pakistanis than Karachi’s 21 KFCs. This is true even of the tribal North-West Frontier Province — after all, a 23-foot-tall Buddha that was severely damaged last fall by the Taliban there had stood serenely for a thousand years amid an orthodox Muslim population. ...The many militant outfits in the frontier regions are far from a unified popular movement. Rather, they are best characterized as ethnic or sectarian gangs, regularly changing names and loyalties. More often than battling the army, they engage each other in violent turf wars. For many of them — some with only a handful of members — “Taliban” is a convenient brand name that awards them the status of international resistance fighters. It is not uncommon for highway bandits to declare themselves Taliban when stealing tape decks from vehicles....(however) while the Pakistani public condemns Talibanism, it is also opposed to the way the war on terrorism has been waged in Pakistan. People are horrified by the thousands of civilian and military casualties and the militants’ retaliatory attacks in major cities... This has led to the belief that this war is for “Busharraf” rather than the Pakistani people...If we (americans) can bear in mind that our long-term interests are the same as those of average Pakistanis, the challenges of fighting the militants and rebuilding credibility may not be as daunting as they seem.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/opinion/16ziad.html?_r=1&hp&a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;o ref=slogin
#221 Posted by arjun_5 on February 16, 2008 4:14:03 am
Pakistan: Nine killed in blast outside PPP office
Nine people were killed and several injured when a bomb went off outside an election office of the Pakistan People's Party in Pakistan's northwestern tribal area on the last day of electioneering on Saturday.
The blast occurred outside the election office of PPP candidate Riaz Hussain Shah at a market in Parachinar, the main town of Kurram Agency.
Shah, who was in the office at the time, escaped unhurt, officials said.
Nine people were killed and several injured when a bomb went off outside an election office of the Pakistan People's Party in Pakistan's northwestern tribal area on the last day of electioneering on Saturday.
The blast occurred outside the election office of PPP candidate Riaz Hussain Shah at a market in Parachinar, the main town of Kurram Agency.
Shah, who was in the office at the time, escaped unhurt, officials said.
#220 Posted by iron_mask on February 16, 2008 4:11:58 am
Re: # 219 how many people fed the fish....
the reason red mosque will be around is because all the guys are the army men...jihadi reserve.....
the funny thing is that the pakistanis have not figured it out as yet.....that the jihadis are "the real army - the soldiers" who are used as and when and where the officers of the ISI (who are the real commanders of the real army) want to use them.
What you see as the army are decoration peices.....,
it appears mian HM2 is the only one to have figured this out.
the reason red mosque will be around is because all the guys are the army men...jihadi reserve.....
the funny thing is that the pakistanis have not figured it out as yet.....that the jihadis are "the real army - the soldiers" who are used as and when and where the officers of the ISI (who are the real commanders of the real army) want to use them.
What you see as the army are decoration peices.....,
it appears mian HM2 is the only one to have figured this out.
#219 Posted by zeemax on February 16, 2008 3:33:22 am
... as for the golden temple ...... it certainly did provide a lot of fishmeal in the Atlantic!
#218 Posted by zeemax on February 16, 2008 3:00:42 am
hamidm2,
In case you haven't noticed, the ruling party has apologized to the nation for Lal Masjid, and during the past two weeks three Chinese parlours have been raided by Federal Police and the hookers and their pimps arrested.
Lal Masjid is here to stay, like it or not.
In case you haven't noticed, the ruling party has apologized to the nation for Lal Masjid, and during the past two weeks three Chinese parlours have been raided by Federal Police and the hookers and their pimps arrested.
Lal Masjid is here to stay, like it or not.
#217 Posted by hamidm2 on February 16, 2008 2:21:44 am
Re: # 211
anil mian,
"I know for fact, India cannot do what Pakistan did in Pakistani Jalianwala Bagh at Lal Masjid."
... i think india can do much much better - as they did in the golden temple ...... musharraf just doesn't have indira's gonads ..........
anil mian,
"I know for fact, India cannot do what Pakistan did in Pakistani Jalianwala Bagh at Lal Masjid."
... i think india can do much much better - as they did in the golden temple ...... musharraf just doesn't have indira's gonads ..........
#216 Posted by jayp on February 16, 2008 2:08:29 am
Best wishes to pakistanis, as they vote into power a new government tomorrow. There are hopes and aspirations of a hundred million on the out come of the results. As you go to vote, spare a moment to reflect on the following parable, ironically from dawn of today.
A dead dog in the pond
IN view of the current political scenario, it reminds me of a story of a dog that fell and died in a pond.
Since the pond had become polluted and started stinking, the area people could not use the pond’s water.
Some elderly man in the area suggested that emptying the pond and refilling it with fresh water three times will purify the pond and remove the bad stink.
A lot of hard work was required to do this drill but the people had the zeal and enthusiasm to get this change done.
As suggested, the pond was emptied to the last drop and refilled with fresh water. This was done three times but the bad stink remained like before.
The people, tired and fatigued, went to that elderly man and asked:
“What next?” The elderly man said: “How will the stink go when you have not removed the dead dog from the pond?”
We, the nation, should ponder over this story. Otherwise the stink shall remain.
Y. KHAN
New Orleans, USA
A dead dog in the pond
IN view of the current political scenario, it reminds me of a story of a dog that fell and died in a pond.
Since the pond had become polluted and started stinking, the area people could not use the pond’s water.
Some elderly man in the area suggested that emptying the pond and refilling it with fresh water three times will purify the pond and remove the bad stink.
A lot of hard work was required to do this drill but the people had the zeal and enthusiasm to get this change done.
As suggested, the pond was emptied to the last drop and refilled with fresh water. This was done three times but the bad stink remained like before.
The people, tired and fatigued, went to that elderly man and asked:
“What next?” The elderly man said: “How will the stink go when you have not removed the dead dog from the pond?”
We, the nation, should ponder over this story. Otherwise the stink shall remain.
Y. KHAN
New Orleans, USA
#215 Posted by iron_mask on February 15, 2008 11:50:18 pm
Re: # 213 great. now that urstruly has said it, zeemax will start worshipping tree toads.
Shankara, namam, Can you pleasse layout the rules, a book would be great, so that zeemax could worhsip (T). Without it he is handicapped.
Shankara, namam, Can you pleasse layout the rules, a book would be great, so that zeemax could worhsip (T). Without it he is handicapped.
#214 Posted by shankar on February 15, 2008 9:53:01 pm
RE #213
Wow!
I'm ,from now on, going to worship the tree toad god!
Wow!
I'm ,from now on, going to worship the tree toad god!
#213 Posted by zeemax on February 15, 2008 7:31:40 pm
Finally, after a long wait, the definition of a tree toad from Urstruly!
" To me, a tree toad is the most morally upright creature in the world. It sticks its tongue out only when it needs to catch its food. Therefore, he never gets an upset stomach. I salute tree toads for their humility, pacifism, and soft underbelly."
" To me, a tree toad is the most morally upright creature in the world. It sticks its tongue out only when it needs to catch its food. Therefore, he never gets an upset stomach. I salute tree toads for their humility, pacifism, and soft underbelly."
#212 Posted by anil on February 15, 2008 7:10:52 pm
Hamidm Sahib:
One more thing, let Bangalore become more relevant in Romairs of Pakistan's life than Muzaffarabad. Time is with India, and against Pakistan. Let Musharraff - MUSHARRAFF ZINDABAD - change Times direction.
He has Massaddi Mians, Urstrly, HP Mians by the millions. On top, he has detractors like Tahmed Sahib who are angry with him, and then young Pakistani leaders with potential, like Yassers, are tied into warp of time, and Arujns and Sadnas of India keep him busy too. Lot of problems, I have not included Islamists, because out of them, Zeemax sahib types, will come suppporters. This is unique reality of Pakistani landscape.
One more thing, let Bangalore become more relevant in Romairs of Pakistan's life than Muzaffarabad. Time is with India, and against Pakistan. Let Musharraff - MUSHARRAFF ZINDABAD - change Times direction.
He has Massaddi Mians, Urstrly, HP Mians by the millions. On top, he has detractors like Tahmed Sahib who are angry with him, and then young Pakistani leaders with potential, like Yassers, are tied into warp of time, and Arujns and Sadnas of India keep him busy too. Lot of problems, I have not included Islamists, because out of them, Zeemax sahib types, will come suppporters. This is unique reality of Pakistani landscape.
#211 Posted by anil on February 15, 2008 7:05:15 pm
Re: # 207
Hamidm Sahib:
"...what are the horrible hindoos going to do about their own taliban and ninja-chic problem ?? !!!!:.."
One suggestion that comes to my mind, is let us send Arjun to Srinanar - coiner at Chowk of Ninja Chics - I cannot say father of Ninja Chics. I bet he will feel the heat outside the black tent, and may be something hopeful will come out.
For the other possibility. Kashmir to India and Indians (South to North) is not how you in Pakistan look at it. Indian Kashmiris will solve this problem, in a way similar to how Iranian are solving, PROUDLY. Let those power generators come online, let those dams get built. Let Pakistanis start saying "Unke paani mein ab taqat cum hai, sub paani ki taqat - first Indian then Indian-Kashmiri - choron ne nikaal li.
My point is, let India put in place an ecnomomic process, before it pulls troops back to the plains. There is very little Pakistan will be able to do after that. Soon Indian chant will become Indian-Kashmiri Chor also. I have faith in human needs and greed.
Good news is Pakistan is too occupied on the western front, and bad news for India is that it needs to move and put economic processes in place, put education processes in place, put women empowerment in place to counter its Ninja-Chics. Can India do it? I know for fact, India cannot do what Pakistan did in Pakistani Jalianwala Bagh at Lal Masjid.
Hamidm Sahib:
"...what are the horrible hindoos going to do about their own taliban and ninja-chic problem ?? !!!!:.."
One suggestion that comes to my mind, is let us send Arjun to Srinanar - coiner at Chowk of Ninja Chics - I cannot say father of Ninja Chics. I bet he will feel the heat outside the black tent, and may be something hopeful will come out.
For the other possibility. Kashmir to India and Indians (South to North) is not how you in Pakistan look at it. Indian Kashmiris will solve this problem, in a way similar to how Iranian are solving, PROUDLY. Let those power generators come online, let those dams get built. Let Pakistanis start saying "Unke paani mein ab taqat cum hai, sub paani ki taqat - first Indian then Indian-Kashmiri - choron ne nikaal li.
My point is, let India put in place an ecnomomic process, before it pulls troops back to the plains. There is very little Pakistan will be able to do after that. Soon Indian chant will become Indian-Kashmiri Chor also. I have faith in human needs and greed.
Good news is Pakistan is too occupied on the western front, and bad news for India is that it needs to move and put economic processes in place, put education processes in place, put women empowerment in place to counter its Ninja-Chics. Can India do it? I know for fact, India cannot do what Pakistan did in Pakistani Jalianwala Bagh at Lal Masjid.
#210 Posted by arjun_5 on February 15, 2008 5:54:52 pm
they should repeal the article 370 BS and let Indians buy property in Indian kashmir and move there...
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