Asif Naqshbandi February 12, 2008
#19 Posted by ShoreSahib on February 14, 2008 9:24:36 pm
Munshi Prem Chand wrote neither in Urdu of Pakistan, nor the Hindi of modern India. He wrote in Hindustani!
#18 Posted by Look on February 14, 2008 2:59:21 pm
Asif Ji,
Great to see Munshi Premchand on your list. If he was a Western writer, streets and universities would have been named after him. Writing equally beautifully in Hindi and Urdu is something few have tried, let alone succeed in it.
Great to see Munshi Premchand on your list. If he was a Western writer, streets and universities would have been named after him. Writing equally beautifully in Hindi and Urdu is something few have tried, let alone succeed in it.
#17 Posted by philosopher on February 14, 2008 1:51:30 pm
Re: # 16
Very soon this article is going to be " My Top TWENTY Novels by Desi writers". LOL
Very soon this article is going to be " My Top TWENTY Novels by Desi writers". LOL
#16 Posted by chaltahai on February 14, 2008 1:45:56 pm
yaaron, how you could have a list and not include "Red earth and Pouring rain" by Vikram Chandra is beyond me... :(
#15 Posted by philosopher on February 14, 2008 12:37:26 pm
What do you guys think about " Raja gidh" by Bano Qudsiyaa?
#14 Posted by anil on February 14, 2008 12:33:52 pm
Naqshbandi sahib:
Thanks, for some reason it was not showing on amazon.com. I ordered. I grew up reading Munshi Premchand's short stories in Hindi. One that remains etched even after 45 years, is the short story "Idgaah". Little boy Hamid goes to Idgaah on Eid, and few paise he had saved to enjoy, he spends it on buying a "chimtaa" for his grandma so that she would not burn her hand while cooking.
Simplicity of plots gave powerful visualizations for a child me. I would rank Munshi Premchand as the best short story writer on the sub-continent. Manto as close second.
Thanks, for some reason it was not showing on amazon.com. I ordered. I grew up reading Munshi Premchand's short stories in Hindi. One that remains etched even after 45 years, is the short story "Idgaah". Little boy Hamid goes to Idgaah on Eid, and few paise he had saved to enjoy, he spends it on buying a "chimtaa" for his grandma so that she would not burn her hand while cooking.
Simplicity of plots gave powerful visualizations for a child me. I would rank Munshi Premchand as the best short story writer on the sub-continent. Manto as close second.
#13 Posted by bulleya on February 14, 2008 7:45:16 am
Not a bad list......
Nadeem Aslam's Maps for Lost Lovers is, hands down, the best book ever written by any author of Pakistani heritage, writing in english....Nadeem Aslam is, head and shoulders, above any Pakistani english author...in fact, it is the only, "world class" piece of english literature ever written by an author of Pakistani origin.....
i haven't read all the books in your list, but i cannot think of any better piece of english prose than, "An Equal Music" by Vikram Seth.....a story of a deaf musician who is married, yet is in love with the author of the book......I read it in one go, and regularly read it again and again...
it inspired me to pen a similar story of my life, for chowk....
Nadeem Aslam's Maps for Lost Lovers is, hands down, the best book ever written by any author of Pakistani heritage, writing in english....Nadeem Aslam is, head and shoulders, above any Pakistani english author...in fact, it is the only, "world class" piece of english literature ever written by an author of Pakistani origin.....
i haven't read all the books in your list, but i cannot think of any better piece of english prose than, "An Equal Music" by Vikram Seth.....a story of a deaf musician who is married, yet is in love with the author of the book......I read it in one go, and regularly read it again and again...
it inspired me to pen a similar story of my life, for chowk....
#12 Posted by Ras on February 14, 2008 6:59:17 am
This list appears to be incomplete
Midnights Children and Shame are missing.
Although the same author also wrote the worst book...
#11 Posted by Dash_Dot on February 14, 2008 5:59:56 am
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#10 Posted by neembu on February 14, 2008 5:06:18 am
Naqs Sahib,
Could you explain the homoerotic subtext in TGOST to which you allude, using examples? Thanks.
Could you explain the homoerotic subtext in TGOST to which you allude, using examples? Thanks.
#9 Posted by Naqshbandi on February 14, 2008 4:09:26 am
the whole point of Lists is to encourage discussion and disagreement!
So bring it on!!!
So bring it on!!!
#8 Posted by Naqshbandi on February 14, 2008 2:54:48 am
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Courtesans-Quarter-Classics-South-Asia/dp/0195977106/ref =sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1202990476&sr=8-1
#6 Posted by Naqshbandi on February 14, 2008 2:48:17 am
Thanks first of all for the correction. Yes, the Untouchable is by Mulk Raj Anand not Narayan but as it not on my list I didn't check--my fault. I did mention it in passing though...
I could probably make another list of 10 equally good novels by desis but one has to draw the line somewhere. The order btw is not meant to be from best to worst...
Hanif Qureishi: I've read almost everything he's written and seen all his movies but I don't rate him very highly. Of all his stuff the Buddha of Suburbia almost made it...!
Jannat ki Talaash: Not read it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Not read any of the Malgudi novels either...
I feel Aslam will win the Booker in the next decade.
He is a genius of a writer.
I could probably make another list of 10 equally good novels by desis but one has to draw the line somewhere. The order btw is not meant to be from best to worst...
Hanif Qureishi: I've read almost everything he's written and seen all his movies but I don't rate him very highly. Of all his stuff the Buddha of Suburbia almost made it...!
Jannat ki Talaash: Not read it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Not read any of the Malgudi novels either...
I feel Aslam will win the Booker in the next decade.
He is a genius of a writer.
#5 Posted by Dash_Dot on February 14, 2008 1:15:38 am
naqshabandi....thanks for the list. I think it is about time such a list was generated.
However a few points before the other things.
DM-Sir has touched upon the untouchable and Narayan's malgudi days...Narayan's Malgudi days are a set of novels which are very easy to read, and they are alive even today (alive as in meaningful). Another aspect which I think - I feel it is my opinion - Arundhati Roys Smallthings - has the flavour of Malgudi Days (with the dark aspect as a extra). When I firts read Smallthings I went and read malgudi days all over again and there is a similarity there.
However, I felt your list was great for another reason. I have been to Bradford and driven through it and seen the place up close. It is a very sad place as well as a place where you can feel the bravery/courage of the people who came here first many years back - from a bright sunny country to a bleak, rainy and claustrophobic place. When I read the Aslam first I sort it sort of echoed bradford to be loud and clear and some of characters were right out of the streets of the city. It is great to see this here (though to put it first or at the top .....but hey its your list ...but its nice to see it make the list).
Somewhere you missed out on another great - Hanif and his Launderette. This is a great piece - I think Aslam's work in a way resembles the launderette (though not the prose - but the overall, braod story). IMHO Hanif and his Launderette should have been on the list.
Vikki baba and his books - the guy can write and has great patience to write pages and pages of stuff (I am always reminded of Satyajit Ray's movie Jalsa GHar - I saw whnI was young and found it extremely boring and tedious - long shots of a smoke filled room of this zamindar smoking his hooka etc - but it was a classic (ask a bong and he goes raving about the movie). But Come on you cannot put them ion the list and miss our Hanif Mian and his Launderette! (you are surely mocking us).
I have read Aag ka darya - and I think if you can put this on the list you are essentially pandering to the Urdu rabble-rousing-crowd. Seriously there are other works which are equally good if not better then this with equal scope and span. But then such lists are a personal opinion, and I will not hold you to it
However, given the off-beat list, I feel you missed out on another great book- English August by Upamanyu Chatterjee.
However a few points before the other things.
DM-Sir has touched upon the untouchable and Narayan's malgudi days...Narayan's Malgudi days are a set of novels which are very easy to read, and they are alive even today (alive as in meaningful). Another aspect which I think - I feel it is my opinion - Arundhati Roys Smallthings - has the flavour of Malgudi Days (with the dark aspect as a extra). When I firts read Smallthings I went and read malgudi days all over again and there is a similarity there.
However, I felt your list was great for another reason. I have been to Bradford and driven through it and seen the place up close. It is a very sad place as well as a place where you can feel the bravery/courage of the people who came here first many years back - from a bright sunny country to a bleak, rainy and claustrophobic place. When I read the Aslam first I sort it sort of echoed bradford to be loud and clear and some of characters were right out of the streets of the city. It is great to see this here (though to put it first or at the top .....but hey its your list ...but its nice to see it make the list).
Somewhere you missed out on another great - Hanif and his Launderette. This is a great piece - I think Aslam's work in a way resembles the launderette (though not the prose - but the overall, braod story). IMHO Hanif and his Launderette should have been on the list.
Vikki baba and his books - the guy can write and has great patience to write pages and pages of stuff (I am always reminded of Satyajit Ray's movie Jalsa GHar - I saw whnI was young and found it extremely boring and tedious - long shots of a smoke filled room of this zamindar smoking his hooka etc - but it was a classic (ask a bong and he goes raving about the movie). But Come on you cannot put them ion the list and miss our Hanif Mian and his Launderette! (you are surely mocking us).
I have read Aag ka darya - and I think if you can put this on the list you are essentially pandering to the Urdu rabble-rousing-crowd. Seriously there are other works which are equally good if not better then this with equal scope and span. But then such lists are a personal opinion, and I will not hold you to it
However, given the off-beat list, I feel you missed out on another great book- English August by Upamanyu Chatterjee.
#4 Posted by dost_mittar on February 13, 2008 7:05:24 pm
Thank you, Naqsh, for sharing this list with us. I have read only three of these novels and hope to read at least a few more.
First, The Untouchable, was written by Mulk Raj Anand and not by R.K.Narayan. In my opinion, no list of great desi novels would be complete without one of Narayan's Malgudi novels. He is unique at least in India in having created a fictional city, Malgudi, where all his stories take place and, which, to his readers, is as real, as a real city, with various characters and institutions common to hall his stories.
Back to the list, you should also read some of Rohinton Mistry's novels, including his A Fine Balance and Family Matters.
There is also a rich desi literature in native languages other than Urdu-Hindi, especially in Bengali, Marathi and Malayalam. I haven't read Bazaar-e-Husn but of the Prem Chand novels I have read, I liked his Ghaban and Godaan the best.
First, The Untouchable, was written by Mulk Raj Anand and not by R.K.Narayan. In my opinion, no list of great desi novels would be complete without one of Narayan's Malgudi novels. He is unique at least in India in having created a fictional city, Malgudi, where all his stories take place and, which, to his readers, is as real, as a real city, with various characters and institutions common to hall his stories.
Back to the list, you should also read some of Rohinton Mistry's novels, including his A Fine Balance and Family Matters.
There is also a rich desi literature in native languages other than Urdu-Hindi, especially in Bengali, Marathi and Malayalam. I haven't read Bazaar-e-Husn but of the Prem Chand novels I have read, I liked his Ghaban and Godaan the best.
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