Voting For Change

#315 Posted by laddu on February 21, 2008 4:06:53 am


this is a real study by PAkistanis themseleves


reality hates the pakis...so by posting the reality, you're posting hateful propaganda against the land of the pure..

Re: # 313

If you have GUTS then come on - please refute the parts I am quoting from the study!!

Let us see you intellectual honesty !!

#285 Posted by Ananth07 on February 21, 2008 3:23:37 am


US is not the only master…….. Saudi controls a leash too…....


Pureland is the bitch
US is the master
Saudis are the dog walkers...

Re: # 312

This is not some propaganda from indian sites- this is a real study by PAkistanis themseleves- care to read it? or you just wan to act like an ostrich like a mullah spewing conspiracy theories-

Here is more -

"Pakistanis as Muslims Alone
The process of equating the Muslim and Pakistani identities starts in very early school
education. For example, the most recent National Early Childhood Education (ECE)
curriculum41 released in March 2002 requires as an objective
To nurture in children a sense of Islamic identity and pride in being
Pakistani.42
There is no mention that this is to be done among Muslim students alone. The suggested
material under this objective is all Islamiat that is to be read by pupils of all religions.
For Class IV and V students, the Urdu curriculum requires that
A feeling be created among students that they are the members of a Muslim
nation. Therefore, in accordance with the Islamic tradition, they have to be
truthful, honest, patriotic and life-sacrificing mujahids (janbaz mujahid)43"

#309 laddu: calling anyone who rejects the pandit hate propaganda a mullah is a standard technique of pandit hates that you have obviously also learnt.

What part of anything i wrote today is something you heard from a mullah, genius? give me just one instance.

#311 laddu: writing something in uppercase does not turn a lie into a truth. :-)

#307 laddu - one can always pull stuff from the internet to try and give credence to either side of any question. Pandit Peabrain arjun has years of experience with that.

I am telling you to open your ears and listen to any one of your fellow Indians who have actually visited Pakistan. And I am telling you to look at chowk and see if any Pakistani gives two hoots about India.

So quit wasting your time and my time repeating yourself and ignoring the questions i put to you.

Re: # 310

With all this HATE INTERNALIZED BY PAKISTANI CITIZENS HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE A MODERN PAKISTAN THAT CAN RIGHTLY CELEBRATE DEMOCRACY??

Here is more on the roots of TNT indoctrination of Paki generations -

"Four themes emerge most strongly as constituting the bulk of the curricula and textbooks of
the three compulsory subjects.
1. that Pakistan is for Muslims alone;
2. that Islamic teachings, including a compulsory reading and memorization of Qur’an,
are to be included in all the subjects, hence to be forcibly taught to all the students,
whatever their faith,;
3. that Ideology of Pakistan is to be internalized as faith, and that hate be created against
Hindus and India; and
4. students are to be urged to take the path of Jehad and Shahadat.
We shall elaborate on them one by one."

Re: # 305

tahhed miyan,

You talk exactly like a mullah.
When I show how hate is being cultivated from child hood in your Paki land "moderate" schools (not madarassa) - you turn into an ostrich.
Worse , you accuse me of hating Pakistanis when I have already stated that muslims are great friends and they are victims of ISLAM.
Pakistan is fine till they do not start claiming the "truths" of their Islamic statehood and espouse TNT.

"Learn some real history"....... Abrahamic "world" was created 6000 years ago...... much after the cow was domesticated...

Here is more Tahmed Mian, this is how teaching urdu turns int a lesson to cultivate hatred in Paki child's psyche.

"Teaching of Urdu: Class 6 to 10
Tariq Rahman
Introduction
It has been pointed out by a number of researchers, some of whom are part of this project,
that the textbooks of public school children (i.e., government schools using Urdu and Sindhi
as media of instruction) are highly propagandist. They contain omissions, inaccuracies and
use of polemical style which results in students hating Hindus and becoming too chauvinistic
and militaristic. They also contain material glorifying war and violence which tends to make
the young people value war and violent, rather than peaceful solutions to problems. Islam
too has been used to sanctify this policy of creating an anti-Hindu, anti-India, pro-war and
`chauvinistic mentality. Such a mentality makes it impossible for a government to be flexible.
One obvious problem is that if the government wants to adopt moderate policies or avoid an
armed conflict with India on Kashmir, then it will find it difficult to do so because public
opinion, shaped in school as well as outside it, will consider it a betrayal of principles.
Moreover, the lessons are addressed to Muslims and make one insensitive to other religious
minorities. They are also insensitive to women and tend to either ignore them altogether or
present them in stereotypical roles."

#297
"Pakistanis didnt need US or Saudi permission to vote Mush out of office either"

Mushy is still in power... US and saudi wants him in control...

Saudi ... a place when your deposed presidents live under house arrest...

Saudi.. who can overrule any Pakistani court rulings....

They are the true masters of Pakistan

#302 the cow was domesticated way before moenjodaro. Learn some real history - and forget the pandit hate propaganda that you have been fed all your life obviously.

Z#299 ananth: you are wrong on both counts. The cow was domesticated in the middle east, and brought to India as mankind spread to India. As for the pig - it was not the jews who started the tradition. The jews themselves got it from the ancient egyptians. This is the history of mankind - cultures pick up things from one another.

This pandit hate propaganda that "hindu" is native to India and muslim culture is that of traitors is just that - pandit hate propaganda. Propaganda that has turned fine lads into laddus!!

Every thing in their history books is seen from communal angle.
This is how a Paki momeen child views the 1965 war :-

"After 1965 war India conspired with the Hindus of Bengal and succeeded in
spreading hate among the Bengalis about West Pakistan and finally attacked on
East Pakistan in December 71, thus causing the breakup of East and West
Pakistan.228"

...one word

.....conniving HIDOOOOOS!!