Pakistan, a Different Country!

Re: # 107 Posted by hamidm2 on February 27, 2008 4:09:21 am

Hamid mian,

[Chowk Staff,

As we discussed earlier, please make sure you don't publish anything written by Masadi. I would also suggest that we should completely ban Masadi from this site.

Thank you for your cooperation.]

I second this motion, and agee with you on this one. This fool is nothing but a foul mouth and is bad for Pakistan's well being.

We should all get together and completely shut this interactor off on this site.

Re: # 124

Chowk staff,

In the interest of free speech please review your policy with regards to this moron and print his article.

We may not like this poor reason of a human being, but he does make some very interesting and valid points that need further introspection.

Masadi,

I agree with the title and basic gist of your article with some reservations.

(1) You give too much credit to gringo, they too have their fair share of idiots who cannot think beyond tomorrow.

(2) If people disagree with u that does not in any way mean or imply they support or condone US atrocities.

HP, you had fun dude! I'm jealous... 8 chicks pouring liquor for you all night (what did you do with the other 64)

(what did you do with the other 64)

On the side man, on the side...I have one reserved for your friend a-choot_5. He never had one!

#131 8 chicks pouring liquor for you all night (what did you do with the other 64)

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they were dressing up the belt around his waist and then he came to his senses and ran away to the airport.:)))

HP #125 Chowk is basically idle time - a bunch of fellows shooting breeze on india, pakistan politics. It is not exactly a think tank which requires standards of scholarship that go way beyond chowk's minimum standard which essentially says "kindly refrain from abusing one another".

So, if someone fails to meet even chowk's basic standards, chowk staff can take away a nick, but cant kick them out (because even a moron knows that he can re-register under a different nick a la arjun the 16th). But chowk can effectively bar them from using chowk to publish articles.

So - please do not make chowk a worse cesspool than it already is by calling for abusive posters to be actually treated as respected chowk writers.

#134
Tauheed sahib, that thinking is inherently weak.

An article should be judged based on its content alone and never based on whether chowk editors "like" the writer or not!

That is no different from the Mushy banning specific publications.

bj qibla: then help me understand the weakness:

1. Is it incorrect to say that chowk is basically idle time, not a think tank? if you disagree, kindly take the supposedly potential "article" in question that masadi proudly presents - and show me one thing there that a talkative barber or rickshaw driver or just some guys having tea and samosas in a khokha (dhaba i believe in india) would not be relating or predicting?


2. if you agree that chowk is basically a social group, not a scholarly forum or think tank, then what is the first rule of the social group if not the chowk guidelines i referred to?

Thanks for your consideration.

bj sahib: and while you are giving this matter some thought, also keep in mind that even if we were not talking fairly pedestrian nature of chowk discussions and articles, true scholars dont hide behind a shower of abuse when they are contradicted.

In fact, strong words are invariably a cover-up for weak arguments.

Tahmed,
This is a difficult issue. There is a dearth of quality articles on Chowk and even some known plagiarists have been published here. As you mentioned the number of abusers on the site is increasing because they really have nothing to bring to the table except abuses.

Asadi for some strange reasons that I fail to fathom, does not realize that he can easily argue with sane people on the site w/o resorting to the language he uses. Maybe one more chance would help him mend his style! His article below is a quality analysis and discussing his assessment should be good for the site.

#138 HP: If masadi is really interested in being given a chance to change, all has to do is stop abusing those who disagree with him. so, you should be telling him this (I already tried that a couple of times a couple of years ago or so and then gave up).

hp,

..... have you gone crazy! ..... have you read mad masadi's 'article' ........ did i hear you say it is a 'quality analysis' ? !!!!

..... i might be as senile as tahmed, but the only thing i see in his piece of crap is a repitition of the same old us elite conspiracy theory with yet another twisted twist ....... now the fool is suggesting that this whole election thing was set up by folks in greenwich to keep the army in place, failing which they will break up pakistan ! ....... subhanallah ! ..... this is the kind of stuff that you can read on the back page of the national enquirer along with news of masadi's abduction by the little blue men in cahoots with the cia .....

.......... the man is a nutcase and you should stop encouraging him ! ....... you want to do a good deed, adopt a child from darfur or, better yet, let a child molestor on parole live in your basement ! ......

#136, #137

Tauheed sahib, which part of "unflinching idealism" is unclear to you? How many ways are there to define it?!

Or, like the Mushy, are you going to invent a "TRUE unflinching idealism" version of it?!

Chowk should either mean it - or it should drop the phrase from its logo. What is absolutely ludicrous is to make pretenses to it but then do the exact opposite - flinch and flinch!

To me, that means the editors should not flinch from judging a piece on its own merit, no matter whatever the reputation of its author!

Simple as that!

Everything else you said about the quality of interacts of the author is extraneous. An author, like anybody else, is also an interactor. Each interact should be judged on its own merit - and filtered if necessary! That is the job of the chowk staff - either do your job, or let somebody else do it!

Poor moderation by chowk staff is not something for them to be proud of. Further, it does not create justification for "flinching"!

Re: # 141

bj,

.... my post below goes for you too ...... stop encouraging this looney .......

..... and it has nothing to do with him abusing other interactors - it has everything to do with the idiocy of his ideas ..... next thing you know, we will have professor ward churchill and charles manson writing on the front page ......

Re: # 88
The partition was the result of muslims' fear of competition from upper caste Indians. Provide some examples of "institutional discrimination". In India, moslem vote bank is one of the most sought after and the vote bank share is increasing (thanks to high breeding rate). All political parties try to appease moslems. So far so that, India Govt. provides special constitutional provision to set up institution violating all Govt. rules (reservation for SC/ST/OBC, minimum % of student should be inducted from general merit list...). If moslems can not exploit that, then there is something wrong with them. SC/STs have long history of deprivation in education sector. There is no such evidence for moslems. India is pretty much free society. If you have the ability and will, you can definitely succeed. The typical moslem (Islamic influence)
mentality to blame others for thier own problems, gang up and resort to violence. It was what Mo had preaced and the base of all evils. Pakistan has received enough petro-dollars from Saudi Arabia. What is the outcome of that money? If partition have any effect, it would have been in West Bengal and Punjab. Why in state like Maharashtra, the moslems outnumbers others in jail population? Problem of you Pakistanis are, you think others from your own mentality ( Huddod law, Blashphemy law, rapid decrease in non moslem population proves what kind of people you are).

chowk staff,

.... please ignore bj's and hp's posts .... i have talked to them and they wish to withdraw their support for masadi ....

.... thanks