Reinterpretation of Islam in Turkey

Re: # 98

I'd second that!

Hamidm, I think incorporating another poor animal into the human food chain isn't necessarily going to to do much for the poor pig's case; I do take your point though about breaking taboos. (#32)

Yes Gil Sahib, Challenging the whole concept of god is exactly the way to go; once we sort him out, there is nothing else to "re-interpret". Its going back to "first principles" or "back to the basics" stuff..

Re: # 89

Hamidm Sahib:

"...i am sure you have eaten worse stuff - frog legs, snails (escargot), caviar (yuck!), sheep brain and testicles (kapooray), stomach (ojri, tripe), force fed goose liver pate, gujranwala sparrows and seoul puppy ..."

You eat and call "...have eaten worse stuff..." What is so machoism about it?

Accept my advise, become a vegetarian. You will never have to call ".... have eaten worse stuff....", and you will be healthier too. Delights of vegetarian eating.

Re: # 95

Just to move you guys along from this shit-eating stuff, may be I can draw you guys some nice diagrams of the "life cycles" of various worms etc.. They have humans as "intermediary hosts", for their life cycles to be complete; in essence, the only reason they continue to exist is NOT "bacteria in the air" like you suggested earlier, but "direct Faeco-oral transmission".

Needless to say they are prevenlent and part of life living in the muslim world (which happens to becoming increasingly synonymous with "the third world").

We are meant to be talking about Re-interpretation of Islam; Please refer back to No: 32; I have nothing more to say on that.

Re: # 95

zeemax,

it would be nice if she did the cooking once in a while too ! ...... laying down the rules is easy, making a good roast takes work ....

.... as for the nikah thing, i like the idea of lving in sin without having to take on the financial burden of a harem full of whining concubines, hand-me-down wives and pre-pubescent daughters of tribal chiefs ....

#94 Posted by hamidm2m

Bhabi Zindbad! Mrs hamidm2 deserves kudos for laying out the ground rules in the family kitchen.

Though I remember I had explained to you sometime ago that actually she's no longer Mrs. hamidm and you're both living in sin - because Nikah is voided automatically if any of the parties turns Murtid!

Re: # 93

bubba,

.... now that you mention it, i don't want the poor pig to be slaughtered like the taliban ..... so i will support a ban on all pig products accept ribs ... maybe we can figure out a way to remove a couple of ribs without killing the poor animal ..... but if we have to, we will do it as humanely as possible - whispering the kalima in his ear and using a sharp knife and hanging him upside down to make sure we drain all the blood ......

Re: # 89 Posted by hamidm2 on March 2, 2008 10:13:34 am

hamid, why are against the pigs? don't you love them the way they are? why do you want them to be slaughtered by the billions?

Re: # 90 Posted by zeemax on March 2, 2008 10:24:04 am

Zeemax,

[Re Umar, he introduced stoning for adultery too though it's nowhere mentioned.] Why do the shias of Iran follow it, then?

Re: # 89 Posted by hamidm2 on March 2, 2008 10:13:34 am

Hamid Mian, what about eggs? You do know where that comes from, don't you?

#89 Posted by hamidm2,

Yeah I love escargots, caviar but not the rest of the list. But ojhri is a great dish for you because that too is full of shit ... and according to your own statement a few posts ago, anything that's shitty has great taste!

Yaar please eat soor. I don't care what you eat. But let me assure you you're eating shit.

Re Umar, he introduced stoning for adultery too though it's nowhere mentioned. But it wasn't because he himself imbibed. He was a stern administrator ... that's all. Alcohol is indeed discouraged but not explicitly prohibited as far as I know ... though there're strong arguments for either case.

Re: # 84

zeemax,

.... you know and i know that this pig thing is such a big deal because we have been conditioned since childhood against the poor soor and ,more importantly, it is easy to avoid .... it is petty religiosity ..... from what little i know about you, i am sure you have eaten worse stuff - frog legs, snails (escargot), caviar (yuck!), sheep brain and testicles (kapooray), stomach (ojri, tripe), force fed goose liver pate, gujranwala sparrows and seoul puppy ... the poor pig is just a victim of the madness of paranoid prophets .........


.... i notice you didn't answer my question about alcohol ... does that mean that you agree with me that we should not all be punished just because omar couldn't hold his liquor ? ... i thought so and will buy the first round

#87 Posted by SRKm

Thanks SRK Saheb. Now please send hamidm a nice pig photo in a nice pigsty frolicking in a nice bed of shit. That'll make his breakfast even more appetizing!

Zeemax,
Picture of Tilapia is there. Also read about "Detritus".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilapia

gill sahib,

...... i agree with you that we should have a secular government and that people should be allowed to practice their superstitions but, unfortunately, the concept of secularism does not exist in islam ..... with the exception of turkey there is not a single mohammedan country that does not accept the koran and sunnah as the source of law some form or fashion ..... and it is not going to change in the near future ...... the best we can hope for is reinterpretation of some satanic verses and devilsh hadiths that impose a ban on music and women drivers ........ i doubt we can tackle bigger issues like condemning suicide bombers and accepting horrible hindoos into heaven .....

zeemax,
I did not google about that. I saw it once on the local TV channel here in bay area. After reading response from hamidm saheb i googled it and he is correct. Either the local tv channel gave some really erroneous info or i forgot the correct name of the fish.

#83 Posted by hamidm2

So ..... tilapia eats algae and water plants and not shit ... so that's OK. Cat fish and the chinese carp (any other nationality too?) eat bottoms .. haha ... so that's a No No.

Yaar hamidm2, don't try so hard. Pigs are pigs ... and they eat their own shit as well as their colleagues as a staple.... even on farms ... no way you can prevent it other than put them in pampers. So you can't convince me that eating pig is good. It is repulsive.