Nadeem F Paracha February 28, 2008
#90 Posted by teshah on March 5, 2008 2:54:44 pm
I wonder why there is no mention of the leftist 'All Pakistan Democratic Students' Federation' with Zuhair Naqvi of F.C. College, Lahore, its President, which was established soon after birth of Pakistan. Zuhair Naqvi was arrested in connection with the so called 'Pindi Conspiracy' case and, reportedly, died in jail after a couple of years. He was such a promising young student who died in such dubious circumstances, perhaps the only casualty of the trumped-up case. Can any body please tell me what actually had happened to him and the student organization he had headed, which could perhaps rightly be called the mother of students' organizations in Pakistan?
#89 Posted by bubba on March 5, 2008 12:08:43 pm
Re: # 76 Posted by nedian85 on March 4, 2008 9:12:47 pm
Only to add further. Regarding (Sardar Hanif (NED, then PPP)}, he went back to Karachi, and has become a maulana. Back, in 1975 (?) his older brother Sardar Rahim was the President of KU. Nowadays, I understand that Sardar Rahim is with PML-N group in Karachi. Both of these brothers are great human beings, and I am proud to have known them.
Only to add further. Regarding (Sardar Hanif (NED, then PPP)}, he went back to Karachi, and has become a maulana. Back, in 1975 (?) his older brother Sardar Rahim was the President of KU. Nowadays, I understand that Sardar Rahim is with PML-N group in Karachi. Both of these brothers are great human beings, and I am proud to have known them.
#88 Posted by NangaPir on March 5, 2008 10:01:15 am
Chronology of Incidences at KU:
1. An army major's jeep, who came to collect his FEL result, was set on fire by progressive students.
2. IJT killed Qadeer Abid.
3. A meeting at DOW vowed to take revenge as Dr. Arif Zafar threatens to quit the movement.
3. Tipu, not KU student, next day came with Jaya Bhutto slogans in a white car.
4. IJT Hafiz Aslam (already a graduate of KU), who was going from engineering to library and was due to leave to the Philippines, opened fire with his pistol on Tipu's car. Tipu's machine gunned Hafiz Aslam.
5. Tipu hijacked an aeroplane and got 45 prisoners out of Pakistan some totally irrelevant. For example one NSF (I believe Sirbaland Khan) was due to be released in 3 days.
6. Then the reign of terror started which almost lasted for one year.
7. Then USM was formed which followed by Talaba Jammuri Mahaz. I am still looking for one girl in it. Her name was Mehrin Islam. If someone knows about her.
8. In the election Boro and Shiran went all the way from NED to chemistry department to root out Jamiaties. Despite this these bastards won election thanks to pant wearing modern looking Karachi IJT girls. Even Rafiq Patil was no good as his Jamite girl friend would show up during election and would keep him away from political work.
9. That was the time to get some new fascist organization to counter IJT. You need a prostitute to prostitute a prostitute. So new realities were born.
1. An army major's jeep, who came to collect his FEL result, was set on fire by progressive students.
2. IJT killed Qadeer Abid.
3. A meeting at DOW vowed to take revenge as Dr. Arif Zafar threatens to quit the movement.
3. Tipu, not KU student, next day came with Jaya Bhutto slogans in a white car.
4. IJT Hafiz Aslam (already a graduate of KU), who was going from engineering to library and was due to leave to the Philippines, opened fire with his pistol on Tipu's car. Tipu's machine gunned Hafiz Aslam.
5. Tipu hijacked an aeroplane and got 45 prisoners out of Pakistan some totally irrelevant. For example one NSF (I believe Sirbaland Khan) was due to be released in 3 days.
6. Then the reign of terror started which almost lasted for one year.
7. Then USM was formed which followed by Talaba Jammuri Mahaz. I am still looking for one girl in it. Her name was Mehrin Islam. If someone knows about her.
8. In the election Boro and Shiran went all the way from NED to chemistry department to root out Jamiaties. Despite this these bastards won election thanks to pant wearing modern looking Karachi IJT girls. Even Rafiq Patil was no good as his Jamite girl friend would show up during election and would keep him away from political work.
9. That was the time to get some new fascist organization to counter IJT. You need a prostitute to prostitute a prostitute. So new realities were born.
#87 Posted by IB on March 5, 2008 9:14:22 am
Anyone heard of Najeeb from PSF? He had this ‘police bhaktarband’ – SUV ; was shot 13 times.
We should all thanks Pakistan Rangers for keeping security under control in universities and colleges (specially in Karachi University) or these thugs would start a riot and kill each-other for ‘nothing’.
We should all thanks Pakistan Rangers for keeping security under control in universities and colleges (specially in Karachi University) or these thugs would start a riot and kill each-other for ‘nothing’.
#86 Posted by baaghiraja on March 5, 2008 7:40:16 am
aqarius,
According to my research, the bearded terror’s name was Rana Javed. I have mentioned him in the IJT section.
Nangapir,
Yes, that mosque incident kept coming up in my research. The biggest irony, however is, that the mosque that was built in 1976, was originally initiated as an idea by the Liberal Students Federation when it swept the campus elections in 1975.:)
A mosque issue also came up in 1986, when some IJT members at St. Pat's college wanted to turn one portion of the college canteen into a mosque (I was co-leading PSF with Umair Chapra in that college those days).
We resisted saying that the canteen was no place for a mosque. We were at once called kafirs and one of our PSF friends was stabbed in the perusing clash, but thankfully her survived (He later joined APMSO at KU).
In the 1986 elections at the college the PSF-NSF alliance called the St. Pat’s Progressive Students Federation swept clean the union polls, totally alienating the IJT at the college. We squarely managed to keep IJT out in the cold, and I am proud to say, we did so through a democratic process. I think these were the last elections to take place at St.Pats.
NfP
According to my research, the bearded terror’s name was Rana Javed. I have mentioned him in the IJT section.
Nangapir,
Yes, that mosque incident kept coming up in my research. The biggest irony, however is, that the mosque that was built in 1976, was originally initiated as an idea by the Liberal Students Federation when it swept the campus elections in 1975.:)
A mosque issue also came up in 1986, when some IJT members at St. Pat's college wanted to turn one portion of the college canteen into a mosque (I was co-leading PSF with Umair Chapra in that college those days).
We resisted saying that the canteen was no place for a mosque. We were at once called kafirs and one of our PSF friends was stabbed in the perusing clash, but thankfully her survived (He later joined APMSO at KU).
In the 1986 elections at the college the PSF-NSF alliance called the St. Pat’s Progressive Students Federation swept clean the union polls, totally alienating the IJT at the college. We squarely managed to keep IJT out in the cold, and I am proud to say, we did so through a democratic process. I think these were the last elections to take place at St.Pats.
NfP
#85 Posted by aquaris on March 5, 2008 6:36:54 am
No I do not think so, Usman was a regular , though Burly but was a timid guy, this one was outsider, with him there were some JI big wigs, they came in a blue crolla,
I never was into politics , except for joining Liberals, that too , because it had a lot of girls in it.....[ Wink ]
so I do not know , who that was, never saw him again...
...I heard the Word Thunder squad for the first time then, I was a fresher as KU , some guy who was standing beside me , told me he is from the Thunder sqaud....!!
Also Salamullah Tipu , I have heard of him since 76-77 when I was at the College , he used to reside in Nazimabad No 2 near Abdullah Store, behind Nazimabad Hosptial, I only saw him once , at our college elections, He was wearing a black designer Leather Jacket,and was curling his moustaches, did not stayed long .... the next I heard about Salam ullah Tipu , was when he hijacked the plane...
Salam ullah Tipu , initially was in NSF , he later joined PSF at KU.... and was notorious for dealing brutally with the Jamatis... later I learned , he was hanged by the Kabul
Govt in Jail, secretly..... for he was deemed un-trustworthy .
#84 Posted by nedian85 on March 5, 2008 5:59:53 am
Re: # 82
The top thunder squad guy ... was it Usman ( )??
The top thunder squad guy ... was it Usman ( )??
#83 Posted by nedian85 on March 5, 2008 5:58:21 am
Re: # 81
You are right. Shaukat Cheema was a Jamati who had turned away from them. I met Shaukat Cheema in NED in late 1981. He was a big man. He arrived on the day of the NED elections when Danish Ghani was killed in KU. On that day a number of KU activists (goondas for some) came over to NED, they were carrying automatic weapons and other firearms. If i recall correctly, Cheema died soon after. While on that subject there was also the notorious Din Mohammad Baloch (Boro - also dead now) who was probably a bona fide criminal. Anyone remember Boro?
Also, this is the same time when Tipu (Salamullah) did his deed. It was in KU that he allegedly started that crazy journey that led to a hijacking and so much mayhem.
You are right. Shaukat Cheema was a Jamati who had turned away from them. I met Shaukat Cheema in NED in late 1981. He was a big man. He arrived on the day of the NED elections when Danish Ghani was killed in KU. On that day a number of KU activists (goondas for some) came over to NED, they were carrying automatic weapons and other firearms. If i recall correctly, Cheema died soon after. While on that subject there was also the notorious Din Mohammad Baloch (Boro - also dead now) who was probably a bona fide criminal. Anyone remember Boro?
Also, this is the same time when Tipu (Salamullah) did his deed. It was in KU that he allegedly started that crazy journey that led to a hijacking and so much mayhem.
#82 Posted by aquaris on March 5, 2008 5:09:44 am
yes , the first time a sophisticated weapon was used in an educational institute ,was when Hussain Haqqani won the President ship .. there were allegation of rigging as usual, they arranged for the Oath taking ceremony in the STC Hall, Rafiq Patel and others arranged a protest rally , and were marching toward the STC Hall to register protest and perhaps sabotage the oath taking ceremony.
.... There was this Bearded Guy , I do not remember his name, but he was the Top Thunder Squad man, who opened fire,... first two or three shots were fired in the Air, and then 3-4 directly on the crowd, I think , three or four persons , including a couple of girls were wounded...
and that was the first ever , incidence of the Use of a sophisticated firearm in any educational institute anywhere in pakistan...
Later during the APMSO 's ERA maybe in 92-93 , I was in Lahore I learned they killed four or five oponents or dessenters , right in front of Gymnasim Wall, execution style.....!!...and in the middle of the day...!!
#81 Posted by NangaPir on March 5, 2008 4:42:01 am
Re: # 79
Shaukat Cheema was lieutenant in army then got expelled. In Karachi University initially he was with IJT. Then there was a fight between Pushtoons and Punjabis. IJT was behind Punjabis against Pushtoons. Lala Asad of QA hostel patched these two factions and Shauket turned against IJT. He never attended any USM meeting but in election he sided fully with USM. The day he was shot he was riding a bike driven by Mirza Ehsan of AJK Mirpur (English department). IJT student ambushed him from mosque and we knew that the politics have taken a Zionist turn. It was similar to Shrief Mecca to start Jihad. Since then the sanctity of mosque has been ruined and the whole blame of desecrating mosques goes to Jamite Islami and it Bughal Bacha Tanzeem IJT.
Shaukat Cheema was lieutenant in army then got expelled. In Karachi University initially he was with IJT. Then there was a fight between Pushtoons and Punjabis. IJT was behind Punjabis against Pushtoons. Lala Asad of QA hostel patched these two factions and Shauket turned against IJT. He never attended any USM meeting but in election he sided fully with USM. The day he was shot he was riding a bike driven by Mirza Ehsan of AJK Mirpur (English department). IJT student ambushed him from mosque and we knew that the politics have taken a Zionist turn. It was similar to Shrief Mecca to start Jihad. Since then the sanctity of mosque has been ruined and the whole blame of desecrating mosques goes to Jamite Islami and it Bughal Bacha Tanzeem IJT.
#80 Posted by NangaPir on March 5, 2008 4:41:56 am
Re: # 79
Shaukat Cheema was lieutenant in army then got expelled. In Karachi University initially he was with IJT. Then there was a fight between Pushtoons and Punjabis. IJT was behind Punjabis against Pushtoons. Lala Asad of QA hostel patched these two factions and Shauket turned against IJT. He never attended any USM meeting but in election he sided fully with USM. The day he was shot he was riding a bike driven by Mirza Ehsan of AJK Mirpur (English department). IJT student ambushed him from mosque and we knew that the politics have taken a Zionist turn. It was similar to Shrief Mecca to start Jihad. Since then the sanctity of mosque has been ruined and the whole blame of desecrating mosques goes to Jamite Islami and it Bughal Bacha Tanzeem IJT.
Shaukat Cheema was lieutenant in army then got expelled. In Karachi University initially he was with IJT. Then there was a fight between Pushtoons and Punjabis. IJT was behind Punjabis against Pushtoons. Lala Asad of QA hostel patched these two factions and Shauket turned against IJT. He never attended any USM meeting but in election he sided fully with USM. The day he was shot he was riding a bike driven by Mirza Ehsan of AJK Mirpur (English department). IJT student ambushed him from mosque and we knew that the politics have taken a Zionist turn. It was similar to Shrief Mecca to start Jihad. Since then the sanctity of mosque has been ruined and the whole blame of desecrating mosques goes to Jamite Islami and it Bughal Bacha Tanzeem IJT.
#79 Posted by aquaris on March 5, 2008 3:24:48 am
Shaukat Cheema Belonged to PSA , which was a part of USM , we were holed up in Maths dept, the info we got , he was Biking around the Mosque with silencer open, so maybe there was some skirmishes , and then we heard he was shot from the Mosque....and Killed .... situation became tense, we had 5-6 Girls with Us, so we walked all the way to Sohrab Goth from behind the AERC/ IBA .
#78 Posted by SyedAliAamir on March 5, 2008 2:32:12 am
I remember reading somewhere that Shaukat Cheema belonged to USM and was killed during a clash with IJT.
#77 Posted by aquaris on March 5, 2008 12:25:28 am
and also , Mateen Qureshi,Rafiq patel, Shakil Hyder Jafri , and I forgot the name of the guy who won the Presidential seat in the era before Hussain Haqqani's two years and Mehmood Ghaznavi's (79-84)two years at KU , and Shaukat Cheema the guy who was allegedlly shot from the Mosque at KU and died on the spot.
#76 Posted by nedian85 on March 4, 2008 9:12:47 pm
Excellent effort NFP.
You certainly brought back a lot of memories. Hopefully some of the people of that era who read your article would find time to write something. Going by the dates in your articles footnote you were not there when the unions used to have elections. Given that, it is all the more laudable that you still managed to compile an excellent article.
A number of activists - leftists, rightists, commies, ... and some, ... are now spread across the US and UK. The Zia era lasted too long and the original BB tenure of early 90's didnt do enough to give the activists the hope to do anything productive. It is ironic that many of the left leaning activists are well established and westernized capitalists - they are doctors, engineers, builder, businessmen, some others are teachers and researchers ... very far away from the life of idealism.
Some of the names that you missed are Mahmud Ghaznavi (KU), Husssain Haqqani (KU), Altaf Shakoor (NED, now head of Pasban), Nasim Shekhani (DMC, dont know where he is now), Sardar Hanif (NED, then PPP), Mohammad Haseen (NED, then PPP), ... I did forward your article to a number of those people. Perhaps they will get motivated to say something in this discussion.
You certainly brought back a lot of memories. Hopefully some of the people of that era who read your article would find time to write something. Going by the dates in your articles footnote you were not there when the unions used to have elections. Given that, it is all the more laudable that you still managed to compile an excellent article.
A number of activists - leftists, rightists, commies, ... and some, ... are now spread across the US and UK. The Zia era lasted too long and the original BB tenure of early 90's didnt do enough to give the activists the hope to do anything productive. It is ironic that many of the left leaning activists are well established and westernized capitalists - they are doctors, engineers, builder, businessmen, some others are teachers and researchers ... very far away from the life of idealism.
Some of the names that you missed are Mahmud Ghaznavi (KU), Husssain Haqqani (KU), Altaf Shakoor (NED, now head of Pasban), Nasim Shekhani (DMC, dont know where he is now), Sardar Hanif (NED, then PPP), Mohammad Haseen (NED, then PPP), ... I did forward your article to a number of those people. Perhaps they will get motivated to say something in this discussion.
#75 Posted by teshah on March 4, 2008 5:25:47 pm
I wonder why the story did not start right from 1947!
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