Student Politics in Pakistan: A Profile

yes , the first time a sophisticated weapon was used in an educational institute ,was when Hussain Haqqani won the President ship .. there were allegation of rigging as usual, they arranged for the Oath taking ceremony in the STC Hall, Rafiq Patel and others arranged a protest rally , and were marching toward the STC Hall to register protest and perhaps sabotage the oath taking ceremony.

.... There was this Bearded Guy , I do not remember his name, but he was the Top Thunder Squad man, who opened fire,... first two or three shots were fired in the Air, and then 3-4 directly on the crowd, I think , three or four persons , including a couple of girls were wounded...

and that was the first ever , incidence of the Use of a sophisticated firearm in any educational institute anywhere in pakistan...

Later during the APMSO 's ERA maybe in 92-93 , I was in Lahore I learned they killed four or five oponents or dessenters , right in front of Gymnasim Wall, execution style.....!!...and in the middle of the day...!!

Re: # 79
Shaukat Cheema was lieutenant in army then got expelled. In Karachi University initially he was with IJT. Then there was a fight between Pushtoons and Punjabis. IJT was behind Punjabis against Pushtoons. Lala Asad of QA hostel patched these two factions and Shauket turned against IJT. He never attended any USM meeting but in election he sided fully with USM. The day he was shot he was riding a bike driven by Mirza Ehsan of AJK Mirpur (English department). IJT student ambushed him from mosque and we knew that the politics have taken a Zionist turn. It was similar to Shrief Mecca to start Jihad. Since then the sanctity of mosque has been ruined and the whole blame of desecrating mosques goes to Jamite Islami and it Bughal Bacha Tanzeem IJT.

Re: # 79
Shaukat Cheema was lieutenant in army then got expelled. In Karachi University initially he was with IJT. Then there was a fight between Pushtoons and Punjabis. IJT was behind Punjabis against Pushtoons. Lala Asad of QA hostel patched these two factions and Shauket turned against IJT. He never attended any USM meeting but in election he sided fully with USM. The day he was shot he was riding a bike driven by Mirza Ehsan of AJK Mirpur (English department). IJT student ambushed him from mosque and we knew that the politics have taken a Zionist turn. It was similar to Shrief Mecca to start Jihad. Since then the sanctity of mosque has been ruined and the whole blame of desecrating mosques goes to Jamite Islami and it Bughal Bacha Tanzeem IJT.

Shaukat Cheema Belonged to PSA , which was a part of USM , we were holed up in Maths dept, the info we got , he was Biking around the Mosque with silencer open, so maybe there was some skirmishes , and then we heard he was shot from the Mosque....and Killed .... situation became tense, we had 5-6 Girls with Us, so we walked all the way to Sohrab Goth from behind the AERC/ IBA .

I remember reading somewhere that Shaukat Cheema belonged to USM and was killed during a clash with IJT.

and also , Mateen Qureshi,Rafiq patel, Shakil Hyder Jafri , and I forgot the name of the guy who won the Presidential seat in the era before Hussain Haqqani's two years and Mehmood Ghaznavi's (79-84)two years at KU , and Shaukat Cheema the guy who was allegedlly shot from the Mosque at KU and died on the spot.

Excellent effort NFP.

You certainly brought back a lot of memories. Hopefully some of the people of that era who read your article would find time to write something. Going by the dates in your articles footnote you were not there when the unions used to have elections. Given that, it is all the more laudable that you still managed to compile an excellent article.

A number of activists - leftists, rightists, commies, ... and some, ... are now spread across the US and UK. The Zia era lasted too long and the original BB tenure of early 90's didnt do enough to give the activists the hope to do anything productive. It is ironic that many of the left leaning activists are well established and westernized capitalists - they are doctors, engineers, builder, businessmen, some others are teachers and researchers ... very far away from the life of idealism.

Some of the names that you missed are Mahmud Ghaznavi (KU), Husssain Haqqani (KU), Altaf Shakoor (NED, now head of Pasban), Nasim Shekhani (DMC, dont know where he is now), Sardar Hanif (NED, then PPP), Mohammad Haseen (NED, then PPP), ... I did forward your article to a number of those people. Perhaps they will get motivated to say something in this discussion.

I wonder why the story did not start right from 1947!

bubba ..is that a name ur parents gave u (in which case u could be related to Nostradamus) or did u select it for yourselves after going thru the experience of living with yourself? Anyway i just wanted to say that you sound very eloquent, your arguments and logic is flawless and you are the true manifestation of what bubba's all over should be...BRAVO dear SIR

Re: # 61 Posted by IB on March 4, 2008 11:39:40 am

[Bubba – either you are a Punjabi or a sindi...] None of those. Even if I was, then what is it to this discussion? You sir, on the other hand, can not accept facts.

[a) Sindi and Punjabis are the most corrupt people – it’s a universal fact]

That is not what I experienced while growing up in Karachi. All bribes were taken by the mohajirs. The bureaucrats in the government institutions were mostly mohajirs, and they took bribes. You should not deflect what is a fact.

[b) Urdu Speaking Officers are the most professional and most honest people you could ever come across]

Every year mohajir teachers would give test papers out to the highest bidders. Go and check out yourself at the SSE or the HSE board. Do you know where Islamia College is? A bastion of urdu speakers where their claim to fame is "goonda gurdi". Do you know who created Marrie Colaco? An urdu speaking mohajir.

[Ah, another Sons of Soil Alliance in the making – anyhow, stop being ‘jealous’ of our success and grow up!]

No, sir, liberals can never be jealous. Jealousy by definition is only for those who do not have anything to the society they live in except hate. And unbeknownst to you, you have just shown it.

You are a poor wretched mohajir, and your parent came to Karachi for a better living, and look what you have done to a city that gave you sanctity. Your parents were great people who wanted to make a better life for themselves and for their progeny. But, you were misguided by your hatred, and you became ethnocentric fascist. You have no love for Karachi, or for that matter anywhere.

[As someone who works for the Sind Police – all I could see are Punjabi Constables, Punjabi Officers, Punjabis and more Punjabis!] That maybe true in the interior Sind.

But, I pointed out places in Karachi, before the thugs took over the city.

[...while bubba is a harmless liar suffering from a memory loss.] No sir, lying is in your mohajir's DNA. It is all about how ridiculously idiot non-convergent, illogical statements mohajirs make.

You have yet to negate anything I have written.

Did you figure it out what a liberal or a secular group of people really mean? Your mohajir tolas are none. So be with accepting this fact, that finally the new age of information has caught with your crappy hate filled politics, and inshaallah your group will be marginalized in Pakistani politics. Because that is exactly where your group belongs.

[Don't Mess With The Community !] Nobody wants to. We all know that is what your program is. To make Karachi's situation as Pakistan's Gaza.

IB Sahib:

Please check this news:

http://www.chowk.com/unplugged/t/50524

This is the kind of acts of Today's Young Pakistan spell the demise of hatred filled HP Mians who think they won when litter the Chowk with name calling Ganesh Mutants and Mother Burners.

These acts also point to a future filled with hope not hate.

Re: # 70
IB Sahib:

Change is in the air, your generation can make the difference.

It is the college kids showing at electoral booths who are making the diffference in favor of Obama. Although my candidate was Hillary, but I accept the verdict of new generation.

Re: # 69 (ouch its' reply number 69)
HP Mian' - try a 69 with Masadi for change! maybe you will change your rotten views..

Anil Bhai - good to know we the 'young' are on the same page!

DOWN WITH HP AND ALIKES...

Re: # 68

IB Sahib:

Thanks for your support.

One refreshing message that I have found on Chowk is that 20 something young Pakistanis donot hesitate to tell hate filled minds of HP Mian and his ilk, for what these minds spew out nano, pico, and macro analysis upon analysis. These hate filled minds litter the Chowk with Ganesh Mutants Mother Burner name calling, and feel they won. HP Mian has been banned for 24 hours on chowk for such name calling.

Today's Pakistan, like Today's India has different priority that hate filled minds of HP Mians.

Way to go Anil, it's time to make HP Sauce out of HP - although it will be 'haram' in any condition.

The looser (HP) flaged your replies as 'abusive' - thugs can't change - can they?

Re: # 66

HP Mian:

Should I consider red flags, jealousy of a failed man, or response to his ranting of HBS?