Nadeem F Paracha February 28, 2008
#98 Posted by baaghiraja on March 5, 2008 8:36:54 pm
Ana
Faiz and Nazish Amrohvi wrote a poem before as well on the killing of some DSF students in 1956 by the police. They were shot outside what used to be called Capitol Cinema in the Saddar area of Karachi.
Faiz and Nazish Amrohvi wrote a poem before as well on the killing of some DSF students in 1956 by the police. They were shot outside what used to be called Capitol Cinema in the Saddar area of Karachi.
#97 Posted by baaghiraja on March 5, 2008 8:33:20 pm
HP
That's true. His name was Hassan Nasir. He was first associated with DSF and then the Communist Party of Pakistan. He was tortured to death in a Lahore jail in, I think, 1962 by the Ayub dictatorship.
That's true. His name was Hassan Nasir. He was first associated with DSF and then the Communist Party of Pakistan. He was tortured to death in a Lahore jail in, I think, 1962 by the Ayub dictatorship.
#96 Posted by ana on March 5, 2008 8:29:59 pm
Hassan Nasir is the one Faiz dedicated a poem to, whose Urdu title escapes me, but I believe the English translation is The rain of stones is finished. I think it is part of the naqsh-e-faryadi collection.
#95 Posted by HP on March 5, 2008 8:16:54 pm
#90 Posted by teshah
“'All Pakistan Democratic Students' Federation' with Zuhair Naqvi of F.C. College, Lahore,
Zuhair Naqvi was arrested in connection with the so called 'Pindi Conspiracy' case and, reportedly, died in jail after a couple of years.”
Paracha #94 or Baghiraja’s info may be correct on that. But I have never heard of Zuhair Naqvi befor as part of DSF. Hassan Nasir was the one who was killed in the Lahore fort by the army in 1958-59. He was part of the communist students.
As far as I know, there was no Zuhair Naqvi who was in the Pindi conspiracy case. The Pindi conspiracy case is now well documented and you can find all accused named at different places on the Net and on Chowk also.
There was one famous Naqvi from Karachi and he was later a professor in Urdu College, Karachi. His name was Jamal Naqvi. I don’t know much about his present condition. He must be pretty old, if he is still alive.
“'All Pakistan Democratic Students' Federation' with Zuhair Naqvi of F.C. College, Lahore,
Zuhair Naqvi was arrested in connection with the so called 'Pindi Conspiracy' case and, reportedly, died in jail after a couple of years.”
Paracha #94 or Baghiraja’s info may be correct on that. But I have never heard of Zuhair Naqvi befor as part of DSF. Hassan Nasir was the one who was killed in the Lahore fort by the army in 1958-59. He was part of the communist students.
As far as I know, there was no Zuhair Naqvi who was in the Pindi conspiracy case. The Pindi conspiracy case is now well documented and you can find all accused named at different places on the Net and on Chowk also.
There was one famous Naqvi from Karachi and he was later a professor in Urdu College, Karachi. His name was Jamal Naqvi. I don’t know much about his present condition. He must be pretty old, if he is still alive.
#94 Posted by baaghiraja on March 5, 2008 7:45:00 pm
teshah
It was All Pakistan Democratic Students' Organization (APDSO). It was formed in 1953 when the government banned the Communist Party of Pakistan and its student wing, the Democratic Students Federation. However, since it comprised of mainly left-wing and progressive student groups, it too was banned in 1954. NSF emerged and evolved from the APDSO which was mostly led by former DSF members.
It was All Pakistan Democratic Students' Organization (APDSO). It was formed in 1953 when the government banned the Communist Party of Pakistan and its student wing, the Democratic Students Federation. However, since it comprised of mainly left-wing and progressive student groups, it too was banned in 1954. NSF emerged and evolved from the APDSO which was mostly led by former DSF members.
#93 Posted by rf786 on March 5, 2008 7:42:08 pm
Re: # 89
bubbba
Sardar went to the UAE and became extremely religious, Sardar Rahim like u correctly stated is part of PML-N and their younger brother started the famously delicious BBQ Tonight.
bubbba
Sardar went to the UAE and became extremely religious, Sardar Rahim like u correctly stated is part of PML-N and their younger brother started the famously delicious BBQ Tonight.
#92 Posted by rf786 on March 5, 2008 7:40:21 pm
Re: # 83
nedian85
Danish was a good friend but a Jamaati, but that doesnt mean he deserved to die.
If my memory serves me right, it was Boro who killed Danish by using a long distance rifle and yes Boro also died by the gun and he did deserve the same punishment. Shireen was killed in Frontier, cut into pieces.
As for Cheema, the ex-thunder squad IJT goon was killed by his ex-rafeeq's (thunder squad goons). I had the misfortune of meeting the deceased at the STC cafeteria when he was still aligned with IJT. Not a very pleasent or well behaved person to meet with, certainly not someone you would pick a fight. These guys were part of gangs who operated from KU using hostels as their hideouts.
nedian85
Danish was a good friend but a Jamaati, but that doesnt mean he deserved to die.
If my memory serves me right, it was Boro who killed Danish by using a long distance rifle and yes Boro also died by the gun and he did deserve the same punishment. Shireen was killed in Frontier, cut into pieces.
As for Cheema, the ex-thunder squad IJT goon was killed by his ex-rafeeq's (thunder squad goons). I had the misfortune of meeting the deceased at the STC cafeteria when he was still aligned with IJT. Not a very pleasent or well behaved person to meet with, certainly not someone you would pick a fight. These guys were part of gangs who operated from KU using hostels as their hideouts.
#91 Posted by rf786 on March 5, 2008 7:29:28 pm
Re: # 88
NangaPir
I was there at the same time, even though it was a truncated stay. What was your department if I may ask.
NangaPir
I was there at the same time, even though it was a truncated stay. What was your department if I may ask.
#90 Posted by teshah on March 5, 2008 2:54:44 pm
I wonder why there is no mention of the leftist 'All Pakistan Democratic Students' Federation' with Zuhair Naqvi of F.C. College, Lahore, its President, which was established soon after birth of Pakistan. Zuhair Naqvi was arrested in connection with the so called 'Pindi Conspiracy' case and, reportedly, died in jail after a couple of years. He was such a promising young student who died in such dubious circumstances, perhaps the only casualty of the trumped-up case. Can any body please tell me what actually had happened to him and the student organization he had headed, which could perhaps rightly be called the mother of students' organizations in Pakistan?
#89 Posted by bubba on March 5, 2008 12:08:43 pm
Re: # 76 Posted by nedian85 on March 4, 2008 9:12:47 pm
Only to add further. Regarding (Sardar Hanif (NED, then PPP)}, he went back to Karachi, and has become a maulana. Back, in 1975 (?) his older brother Sardar Rahim was the President of KU. Nowadays, I understand that Sardar Rahim is with PML-N group in Karachi. Both of these brothers are great human beings, and I am proud to have known them.
Only to add further. Regarding (Sardar Hanif (NED, then PPP)}, he went back to Karachi, and has become a maulana. Back, in 1975 (?) his older brother Sardar Rahim was the President of KU. Nowadays, I understand that Sardar Rahim is with PML-N group in Karachi. Both of these brothers are great human beings, and I am proud to have known them.
#88 Posted by NangaPir on March 5, 2008 10:01:15 am
Chronology of Incidences at KU:
1. An army major's jeep, who came to collect his FEL result, was set on fire by progressive students.
2. IJT killed Qadeer Abid.
3. A meeting at DOW vowed to take revenge as Dr. Arif Zafar threatens to quit the movement.
3. Tipu, not KU student, next day came with Jaya Bhutto slogans in a white car.
4. IJT Hafiz Aslam (already a graduate of KU), who was going from engineering to library and was due to leave to the Philippines, opened fire with his pistol on Tipu's car. Tipu's machine gunned Hafiz Aslam.
5. Tipu hijacked an aeroplane and got 45 prisoners out of Pakistan some totally irrelevant. For example one NSF (I believe Sirbaland Khan) was due to be released in 3 days.
6. Then the reign of terror started which almost lasted for one year.
7. Then USM was formed which followed by Talaba Jammuri Mahaz. I am still looking for one girl in it. Her name was Mehrin Islam. If someone knows about her.
8. In the election Boro and Shiran went all the way from NED to chemistry department to root out Jamiaties. Despite this these bastards won election thanks to pant wearing modern looking Karachi IJT girls. Even Rafiq Patil was no good as his Jamite girl friend would show up during election and would keep him away from political work.
9. That was the time to get some new fascist organization to counter IJT. You need a prostitute to prostitute a prostitute. So new realities were born.
1. An army major's jeep, who came to collect his FEL result, was set on fire by progressive students.
2. IJT killed Qadeer Abid.
3. A meeting at DOW vowed to take revenge as Dr. Arif Zafar threatens to quit the movement.
3. Tipu, not KU student, next day came with Jaya Bhutto slogans in a white car.
4. IJT Hafiz Aslam (already a graduate of KU), who was going from engineering to library and was due to leave to the Philippines, opened fire with his pistol on Tipu's car. Tipu's machine gunned Hafiz Aslam.
5. Tipu hijacked an aeroplane and got 45 prisoners out of Pakistan some totally irrelevant. For example one NSF (I believe Sirbaland Khan) was due to be released in 3 days.
6. Then the reign of terror started which almost lasted for one year.
7. Then USM was formed which followed by Talaba Jammuri Mahaz. I am still looking for one girl in it. Her name was Mehrin Islam. If someone knows about her.
8. In the election Boro and Shiran went all the way from NED to chemistry department to root out Jamiaties. Despite this these bastards won election thanks to pant wearing modern looking Karachi IJT girls. Even Rafiq Patil was no good as his Jamite girl friend would show up during election and would keep him away from political work.
9. That was the time to get some new fascist organization to counter IJT. You need a prostitute to prostitute a prostitute. So new realities were born.
#87 Posted by IB on March 5, 2008 9:14:22 am
Anyone heard of Najeeb from PSF? He had this ‘police bhaktarband’ – SUV ; was shot 13 times.
We should all thanks Pakistan Rangers for keeping security under control in universities and colleges (specially in Karachi University) or these thugs would start a riot and kill each-other for ‘nothing’.
We should all thanks Pakistan Rangers for keeping security under control in universities and colleges (specially in Karachi University) or these thugs would start a riot and kill each-other for ‘nothing’.
#86 Posted by baaghiraja on March 5, 2008 7:40:16 am
aqarius,
According to my research, the bearded terror’s name was Rana Javed. I have mentioned him in the IJT section.
Nangapir,
Yes, that mosque incident kept coming up in my research. The biggest irony, however is, that the mosque that was built in 1976, was originally initiated as an idea by the Liberal Students Federation when it swept the campus elections in 1975.:)
A mosque issue also came up in 1986, when some IJT members at St. Pat's college wanted to turn one portion of the college canteen into a mosque (I was co-leading PSF with Umair Chapra in that college those days).
We resisted saying that the canteen was no place for a mosque. We were at once called kafirs and one of our PSF friends was stabbed in the perusing clash, but thankfully her survived (He later joined APMSO at KU).
In the 1986 elections at the college the PSF-NSF alliance called the St. Pat’s Progressive Students Federation swept clean the union polls, totally alienating the IJT at the college. We squarely managed to keep IJT out in the cold, and I am proud to say, we did so through a democratic process. I think these were the last elections to take place at St.Pats.
NfP
According to my research, the bearded terror’s name was Rana Javed. I have mentioned him in the IJT section.
Nangapir,
Yes, that mosque incident kept coming up in my research. The biggest irony, however is, that the mosque that was built in 1976, was originally initiated as an idea by the Liberal Students Federation when it swept the campus elections in 1975.:)
A mosque issue also came up in 1986, when some IJT members at St. Pat's college wanted to turn one portion of the college canteen into a mosque (I was co-leading PSF with Umair Chapra in that college those days).
We resisted saying that the canteen was no place for a mosque. We were at once called kafirs and one of our PSF friends was stabbed in the perusing clash, but thankfully her survived (He later joined APMSO at KU).
In the 1986 elections at the college the PSF-NSF alliance called the St. Pat’s Progressive Students Federation swept clean the union polls, totally alienating the IJT at the college. We squarely managed to keep IJT out in the cold, and I am proud to say, we did so through a democratic process. I think these were the last elections to take place at St.Pats.
NfP
#85 Posted by aquaris on March 5, 2008 6:36:54 am
No I do not think so, Usman was a regular , though Burly but was a timid guy, this one was outsider, with him there were some JI big wigs, they came in a blue crolla,
I never was into politics , except for joining Liberals, that too , because it had a lot of girls in it.....[ Wink ]
so I do not know , who that was, never saw him again...
...I heard the Word Thunder squad for the first time then, I was a fresher as KU , some guy who was standing beside me , told me he is from the Thunder sqaud....!!
Also Salamullah Tipu , I have heard of him since 76-77 when I was at the College , he used to reside in Nazimabad No 2 near Abdullah Store, behind Nazimabad Hosptial, I only saw him once , at our college elections, He was wearing a black designer Leather Jacket,and was curling his moustaches, did not stayed long .... the next I heard about Salam ullah Tipu , was when he hijacked the plane...
Salam ullah Tipu , initially was in NSF , he later joined PSF at KU.... and was notorious for dealing brutally with the Jamatis... later I learned , he was hanged by the Kabul
Govt in Jail, secretly..... for he was deemed un-trustworthy .
#84 Posted by nedian85 on March 5, 2008 5:59:53 am
Re: # 82
The top thunder squad guy ... was it Usman ( )??
The top thunder squad guy ... was it Usman ( )??
#83 Posted by nedian85 on March 5, 2008 5:58:21 am
Re: # 81
You are right. Shaukat Cheema was a Jamati who had turned away from them. I met Shaukat Cheema in NED in late 1981. He was a big man. He arrived on the day of the NED elections when Danish Ghani was killed in KU. On that day a number of KU activists (goondas for some) came over to NED, they were carrying automatic weapons and other firearms. If i recall correctly, Cheema died soon after. While on that subject there was also the notorious Din Mohammad Baloch (Boro - also dead now) who was probably a bona fide criminal. Anyone remember Boro?
Also, this is the same time when Tipu (Salamullah) did his deed. It was in KU that he allegedly started that crazy journey that led to a hijacking and so much mayhem.
You are right. Shaukat Cheema was a Jamati who had turned away from them. I met Shaukat Cheema in NED in late 1981. He was a big man. He arrived on the day of the NED elections when Danish Ghani was killed in KU. On that day a number of KU activists (goondas for some) came over to NED, they were carrying automatic weapons and other firearms. If i recall correctly, Cheema died soon after. While on that subject there was also the notorious Din Mohammad Baloch (Boro - also dead now) who was probably a bona fide criminal. Anyone remember Boro?
Also, this is the same time when Tipu (Salamullah) did his deed. It was in KU that he allegedly started that crazy journey that led to a hijacking and so much mayhem.
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