Student Politics in Pakistan: A Profile

Just for record. After Tipu's action the KU became a hub for Islami Jamiat-e-Tulaba terrorism. Jamate Hussain Haqani was known to have on CIA payroll now in Boston. His follower was accused of killing Qadeer. The KU was filled with agencies agents. In total 144 terrorist incidents took place in KU after the death of Abid Qadeer. No organization was able to counter IJT terrorism. Then few students gathered at Dr. Zafar Arif’s home and founded USM. When election was held, liberals and PSF got the major seats except joint secretary which was given to a coalition of nationalities. These nationalities included Jaye Sind, BSO, Paktoon, Siraki, Punjabi, Kashmiri and Norhtern Areas (Gilgiti). Altaf Hussain begged to be recognized as a nationality but was rejected. Outside Jang office on IIC road, when USM announced its decision Altaf stood on his Honda 50 and claimed Mohajir should be included in nationalities but was rebuffed again. Later, agencies backed him. According to Asma Jehangir Human Rights Investigation:
..General Jehangir Keramat asked PM Nawaz Shrief to sign orders to investigate Altaf Hussain for working with RAW and British Intelligence. PM allowed but as the general left, Shrief called Jam Sadiq to help Altaf leave the country ASAP. Jam Sadiq did not leave the airport until British charted plane not left the Pakistani airspace.

Brits were desperate for Karachi as a Hong Kong replacement. After Altaf they got gulf. So APMSO was still In Vitro fertilized form. Later the midwives (ISI, RAW M15) delivered it as an illegitimate child of circumcised Pakistan.

Borrowing this board for a more productive discussion ... since the host board is in chowk dungeons:

#292 Posted by vengatramanan Re: # 291

More people getting poor does not look plausible, as it would contribute to the downward spiral of the aggregate demand and therefore deflation.

#294 Posted by zeemax re#292 Posted by vengatramanan,

No Sir! The demand of the poor is in the most part inelastic.

#28 Posted by slyder. on March 3, 2008 11:43:56 am

what sort of politics do you have in cab driving college?

Somehow, it's a war between

HAVE and HAVE-NOTS in todays Pakistan. Unfortunately HAVE-NOTS do not have the will nor the capacity to unite. Until then we could all chat, gossip and argue on how bad the system is and how bad things are on the other side of the bridge.

Shaba'khair, Khudahafiz!

Urstruly Sir,
Pakistan Police works under tremendous pressure – political and social. The problem is that there’s no job security in police – I was asked couple of weeks back as to why police officers of the ranks of ASP’s, DSP’s (these are field command officers) refuse to obey orders from superiors and use conscience for a change!

Actually the problem lies in the vary structure of policing in Pakistan – the whole chain of command which actually discourages officers ‘to put there foot down’.

Some Points,
a) IF you remember a Punjab Police Construable stopped a three star general’s car – he was bashed by the army – although the sergeant was correct in stopping the car – the car was unmarked too.

b) We in Karachi – see every tom, dick and Harry now installing a ‘blue light’ in there cars – if we stop them – they are sons and daughters of landlords, cousins of a top 21grade officer or god knows who – these people actually go out of line to defend even there servants and embarrass police.

c) We in police with minimal pay scales (an ASP gets around Rs.28000 including benefits) forget a construable that gets an Rs.5600/month – 7 days work, 16hours duty

d) Yes, I agree that every policeman should have known about the job and that’s not an excuse for corruption – I’m sorry on my part, I am embarrassed – but Insh’Allah time will come when police will be respected.

e) Political Parties be it MQM (which I voted for this election) , PPPP, PML’s etc.. are made up of powerful , corrupt and manipulative men and women – who fool us , use the system to suppress and rule and nothing more. Being Neutral in this system is like ‘committing a suicide’.

f) Personally I support Karachi’s Nazim(s) call for Police to come under City Government – as it will not only improve the structure of policing but will encourage direct contact between the elected town officials (which represents the locals) and the police for better management of police.

g) Stoppage of political appointments in police – plus , allowing locals to police in there own areas for better and safer community.




A concerned ASP, Sind Police.

I do not think that police is a problem itself but it is a symptom of a problem. The real problem is the lawlessnees, uncostitunality, and illegitimacy of the ruling class, who use police as an tool to enforceme their writ of oppression. The Pirs, jagirdars, ethnic terrorists, ghulamzadas and siyassi haramazadas will never let a rule of law establish in our country. See how they are fighting tooth to nail to not let the establishment of an independent judiciary and law in this country. See how pirs and jagirdars are trying wiggle out of their committme nt to people to restore rule of law in this country even though they know very well that anyone who will side with the dictatopr or try to preserve the current system will do so defying the guillotines that are chasing them.

As far as student parties are concerned, I agree with your asertion that they are nothing but crooks and thugs. I was one of them once.

Why don't we have a Mirzaee Student Association, hain ji?

Is it true that new APMSO members take oath while wearing Altaph Bai's soiled pajama over their head, hain ji?

Urstruely Sahab,
somehow, i feel for people like you because you live in a limbo 24/7. I am not a spokesman for the armed forces , I represent my institution which is (Pakistan Police and Sind Police) which is working there arse off - for ungreatful people like you.
If you didn't notice,
a) crime rate in Karachi has dropped down atleast 32% from last year
b) Insh'Allah with the new 6000 new police officers in Karachi - you will see a better traffic management and a better enviorement (yes, all of the new chaps got Karachi domocile)

As for APMSO, Jamaat and Punjabi Student's Fed. - most of the students involved in students organizations are 'small time criminals, thugs and nothing more' - we need to sweep them all and ban them a.s.a.p! for a better tommarrow.

Has any student leader other than Altaf Hussain reached national prominence, or have they just been a cannon fodder for the ruling army, the mullas and the feudal thugs?

Were there any women student leaders?

NFP

Many thanks brother, puranee yadein tazaa kardeen.

Just one minor but very important correction. Inception of Punjabi Student Association was not 1980, it was well represented in colleges and universities in the seventies.

Well before APMSO came into existence, Karachi had its share of ethnic parties fully functional and dominant in their own spheres.

Hostels in Karachi University, NED and Dawood Engineering college were dominated by Punjabi, Pukhtoon and Sindhi student organizations. Elections for hostel representatives were held on the basis of ethnicity which were ratified and openly supported by JI, NSF, PSF. It was the late seventies and Mr Cheema IJT Thunder squad/PSO (Punjabi Students Organization)was not supported in KU hostel elections in favor of Pukhtoon as it was the time when IJT had become a important member of Zia and the Afghan resistence. Mr Cheema rebelled from his party and joined the anti-Jamiat alliance which was not a smart thing cause he was gunned down in front of the Mosque in KU by his comrades in arm (IJT).

Students entering KU were welcomed with banners from IJT, NSF, PSF and ethnic parties (PSO, PSF, JSSF, BSO)and this was before APMSO came into existence.

hamzay tu abhi virgin please doosron ko mat bacha keh, shabaash ab jaa kay mut maar (T)

The hate has to be subtle my friends ...he works in khi ...lets be real he cant be out n about ..about it..not right now anyways..but u should've seen him during the operation in 90's...abbay che too abhii bacha hayy jaa.. jakar apnay khargosh say khayl

"Topic was intereshting but ur neo-punjabiyat is screaming as usual"
abay tu serious hai kya?

And hamza, what the hell's neo-Punjabi, yaar? We are heading towards a different Pakistan now (Inshallah). So we should let go of this Punjabi, Sindhi, Baloch, Pathan and Mohajir thing already.

Re: # 19
Strange, only last year so many chowkites were accusing NFP for siding with APMSO and MQM in that May 12 article he did called "month of the gun."

Marathon effort, Nadeem. A long look at a suject that is important but neglected by our scribes.

Paracha,

Topic was intereshting but ur neo-punjabiyat is screaming as usual, it must be confusing to kiss the same ass to be relevant and hate that same urdu speaking ass with all that BUTT venom. I am no fan of MQM or APMSO but Javed LangRA had as much to do with APMSO as much as Dakko Lal Jakhrani had to do with Jeay sind student federation. LangRA did come to campuses to settle scores just like rashid rabbani, sohail peter, saood bin mabood did for PSF.

The most famous Punjabi students association personality was not Dr. Shahid Masood, he was affiliated with NSF, nice try though. Ishtiaq Chaudhry was the most famous PSA personality who killed shahab in cold blood in SMC and was later killed by IJT rafeeq's of SMC and KU.

Moin Khan and Rashid Latif both were active members of APMSO in NED Rashid's sister Naila Lateef was the joint sect. of the whole organization in fact. Ahmed Jahanzeb was also very active in APMSO. Try to give a semblance of impartiality, i know there is that deep hate but dont make it so obvious.

You also conveniently forgot that Aamir 'the drama' Liaquat hussein was an active member of PSF in adamjee science college. Woh or unkay abba mahir hein..jidhar kii hawa hotii hayy ussii taraf chall paRtay hein