Murad A Baig February 29, 2008
#137 Posted by majumdar on March 2, 2008 9:38:43 pm
Nkg,
Japs are almost 100% non-veg and they have the highest lifespan.
Regards
Japs are almost 100% non-veg and they have the highest lifespan.
Regards
#136 Posted by nkg on March 2, 2008 9:30:43 pm
Re: # 128
Having said that I think Hindus must also encourage Muslims to eat goats instead. As a matter of fact, a substantial subsidy on goat meat may encourage the trend for goat herding business as well. Countries like Austrailia and Newsealand do nothing but herd goats, and their GDP is 10 times that of India; so I am not kidding.
Ans: Ha Ha Ha!!!! Where is land for herding? We are not able to feed people (for high population density). Reduce population to 1/2, all problems of India will vanish.
Having said that I think Hindus must also encourage Muslims to eat goats instead. As a matter of fact, a substantial subsidy on goat meat may encourage the trend for goat herding business as well. Countries like Austrailia and Newsealand do nothing but herd goats, and their GDP is 10 times that of India; so I am not kidding.
Ans: Ha Ha Ha!!!! Where is land for herding? We are not able to feed people (for high population density). Reduce population to 1/2, all problems of India will vanish.
#135 Posted by nkg on March 2, 2008 9:28:00 pm
Re: # 132
I know. But this custom is changing. Ramkrishna has stopped animal sacrifice in Dakshineswar temple. Frankly speaking, animal sacrifice is barbaric. Whoever does this. Why to kill animal, when we can easily survive without killing it. If a domesticated cat/dog can survive with rice/bread, milk, vegetables, why not we? In India, vegetarians are far less prone to heart, kidney deaseas than non-veg counterparts.
I know. But this custom is changing. Ramkrishna has stopped animal sacrifice in Dakshineswar temple. Frankly speaking, animal sacrifice is barbaric. Whoever does this. Why to kill animal, when we can easily survive without killing it. If a domesticated cat/dog can survive with rice/bread, milk, vegetables, why not we? In India, vegetarians are far less prone to heart, kidney deaseas than non-veg counterparts.
#134 Posted by mohar11 on March 2, 2008 9:26:20 pm
Re: # 128 urstruly
[...Who are holy Shambunath and holy nadni...]
Would you please stop it?... if you know these names, you bloody well know who they are... :)...
[...Who are holy Shambunath and holy nadni...]
Would you please stop it?... if you know these names, you bloody well know who they are... :)...
#133 Posted by nkg on March 2, 2008 9:23:05 pm
Re: # 127
Agreed... I am not forming universal rules regarding Saivaites or Vaisnavites. Large section of backwards castes of Saivaites and Vaisnavites follow vegetarianism. I have seen that also,
Agreed... I am not forming universal rules regarding Saivaites or Vaisnavites. Large section of backwards castes of Saivaites and Vaisnavites follow vegetarianism. I have seen that also,
#132 Posted by bhairav on March 2, 2008 9:10:14 pm
Clip from Kali Maa Mandir in Tripura
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTUDHgWjHqQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTUDHgWjHqQ
#131 Posted by majumdar on March 2, 2008 9:04:25 pm
Urstruly,
Goat meat is indeed the meat of choice for almost all Indian meat eaters- Hindu or Muslim. The best meat dishes in India are invariably mutton based. The main reason Muslims eat beef (and more often buffalo) is becuase goat meat is far more expensive, not becuase of religious sanction. If goat meat were cheaper, most Muslims would prefer mutton.
If I remember corect Deoband too recently issued an advisory advising Muslims to avoid cowslaughter as far as posible on Bakrid.
Regards
Goat meat is indeed the meat of choice for almost all Indian meat eaters- Hindu or Muslim. The best meat dishes in India are invariably mutton based. The main reason Muslims eat beef (and more often buffalo) is becuase goat meat is far more expensive, not becuase of religious sanction. If goat meat were cheaper, most Muslims would prefer mutton.
If I remember corect Deoband too recently issued an advisory advising Muslims to avoid cowslaughter as far as posible on Bakrid.
Regards
#130 Posted by Urstruly on March 2, 2008 9:03:21 pm
The great Urdu poet Mir Taqi Mir has written a couplet about the issue at hand. I hope people will find it enlightening. Here it goes:
Gosht khaanay ko paida kia insaan ko
Ghaas khaanay kay liyay tau kum nah theen kuch bakriaN
#129 Posted by bhairav on March 2, 2008 8:59:02 pm
Beautiful clip of Nepali Dashain Tyohar and Kaal Bhairavji ka Prasad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O9pQaOaMuU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O9pQaOaMuU
#128 Posted by Urstruly on March 2, 2008 8:59:01 pm
Personally I think, Indian Muslims should forego their demand for eating beef in the spirit of being good neighbors to the Hindus. That is what our Holy prophet (pbuh) has taught us. In Qura'n Allah has condemned those who do not lend things of daily use, like utensils, spices, cots, or beddings to their neighbors. According to the companions of Holy Prophet, He used to profess the rights of the neighbors to such an extent that they thought that he would declare declare it as a law to include neighbors into inheritence. Hence in the neighborly spirit, Muslims in India should not insist on cow slaughter. If you are not kind to your neighbors, you are not good Muslims; it is as simple as that.
Having said that I think Hindus must also encourage Muslims to eat goats instead. As a matter of fact, a substantial subsidy on goat meat may encourage the trend for goat herding business as well. Countries like Austrailia and Newsealand do nothing but herd goats, and their GDP is 10 times that of India; so I am not kidding.
I am writing all this in complete ignorance. I have no clue if goats are holy to hindus as well or not. Who are holy Shambunath and holy nadni; are they cows or goats? I'd like to be educated here.
#127 Posted by majumdar on March 2, 2008 8:08:50 pm
Nkg,
Kashmiri Brahmins are Saivites and they are hardcore carnivores. Many Lingayats I know (Saivite backwards) eat meat.
Regards
Kashmiri Brahmins are Saivites and they are hardcore carnivores. Many Lingayats I know (Saivite backwards) eat meat.
Regards
#126 Posted by nkg on March 2, 2008 8:04:09 pm
Re: # 119
What? Allah-upanishad? Oh, that scoundrel Akbar even made the UP poets write chalisa kind of stuff depicting him as avatar of Krishna (the way they do it for Mullyaam Singh Yadav, Laloo Prasad Yadav, Sonia Gandhi etc... now during election).
What? Allah-upanishad? Oh, that scoundrel Akbar even made the UP poets write chalisa kind of stuff depicting him as avatar of Krishna (the way they do it for Mullyaam Singh Yadav, Laloo Prasad Yadav, Sonia Gandhi etc... now during election).
#125 Posted by Eklavya on March 2, 2008 8:02:22 pm
ha ha, nkg, beejay is the supreme leader of all of us UP/MP/Bihar Bhaiyyas. A guy who can pull out a ramcharitmanas quote like that has to be something! :)
Goodnight, friends.
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Sorry Baig bro, in case you ever happen to read any of this. You wrote a political piece and received only political responses. Nothing personal. Peace, and out.
Goodnight, friends.
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Sorry Baig bro, in case you ever happen to read any of this. You wrote a political piece and received only political responses. Nothing personal. Peace, and out.
#124 Posted by nkg on March 2, 2008 7:55:13 pm
Re: # 121
Nope only (some) Brahmins and (most) Banias.
Non-Shakta Barhmins, Banias and large section of backward castes (sivaites and vaisnvaites).
Nope only (some) Brahmins and (most) Banias.
Non-Shakta Barhmins, Banias and large section of backward castes (sivaites and vaisnvaites).
#123 Posted by nkg on March 2, 2008 7:52:07 pm
Re: # 120
I have provided the reason also. Are you from UP/Bihar/MP ( Bhaiya)? You don't know 700/800 years of moslem slavery had damaged so much to you.
I am pretty sure, R N Tagore can be trusted more than your Mughal period author...
I have provided the reason also. Are you from UP/Bihar/MP ( Bhaiya)? You don't know 700/800 years of moslem slavery had damaged so much to you.
I am pretty sure, R N Tagore can be trusted more than your Mughal period author...
#122 Posted by nkg on March 2, 2008 7:44:50 pm
Re: # 80
Sati basically evolved as to protect the honor of Hindu widows from moslems. It was basically mideaval practise arrived with invastion of moslems. With moslems out of power, Sati was abolished by Ram Mohan Roy and Iswar Chandra Vidyasagar, with help of William Bentinc.
Caste system was based on profession. Those professions changed, so is caste system. How you know it is evil? Are you moslem?
Sati basically evolved as to protect the honor of Hindu widows from moslems. It was basically mideaval practise arrived with invastion of moslems. With moslems out of power, Sati was abolished by Ram Mohan Roy and Iswar Chandra Vidyasagar, with help of William Bentinc.
Caste system was based on profession. Those professions changed, so is caste system. How you know it is evil? Are you moslem?
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