How did Hindus Become Vegetarians?

akcheema#186:

I am surprised that, as an informed muslim, you do not understand the distinction between Prophet Mohammad and earlier prophets. He is the Last Prophet because Allah took upon Himself the responsibility of keeping the message uncorrupted. The quranic message will forever remain unadulterated and there would never be a need for another prophet. Any new challenges could be met through the approved process of Ijtihad, of course within the framework of the quran.

Re: # 282

Motiyaan wali sarkar,

Jis din meray andar da rajput 'pootar gaya', I may start to sort out that also.............

#264 Posted by Eklavya

For the faithful, 'flying prophets' is a minor detail. Anything is possible in God's domain ... Believers, of course, may correct me if I misunderstand.

You're right on the dot. The supernatural phenomena are all minor details which no Muslim dwells upon, and few even know of.

For instance, you will rarely hear people adulating Muhammad's splitting of the moon etc, while you see Headees' relating to worldly qualities like his perseverance or bravery or compassion all the time.

In short, it is not a debate BY FAR in Islam. Wonder why Mirzais want to make it a debate!

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I do not think whether Mohammad can become "Angelic" from any Vantage point?? It is only that momeens are taught NOT to question him. If momeens start questioning him, then from ANY vantage point he remains a person not worth emulating.

laddu, we just missed you on this board!

laddu, an argument can be made that God and Satan are not always 'different entities.' And your idolatrous Hinduism and Islam can certainly appear as satanic cults from each other's vantage points.

So be careful before you accuse others :)

Re: # 287

Mullad Gardi. The Gundas of blood thirsty Allah can only try to terrorize by threatening imprisonment in their imaginary Islamic torture cells.

Re: # 286
"As for the "god's message getting perverted", where was he when it was happening? Surely an omniscient god would have known exactly what was to become of his "previous" messages; why send those messages at all! "

An excellent question - I would even go on to say why the blood thirsty God would try all his perversions to test poor human beings. Why doesn't he implant his instructions of hadiths and sunnat in the brains of humans so that they act like perfect clones of Mohammad.?
Since, God was not able to do this therefore he has created an imperfect creation. If God did that on purpose then all this violence and suffering and behaeadings of my idolator fore fathers who could not be persuaded by him , despite omnipotence, shows that he is only a satanic and perverted demi-god.
Infact , Mohammad's Allah is Satan in the guise of benevolent God.

akcheema #286

{{Sometime I wonder.........................Do you guys ever think OR are you just robots conditioned by your parents/teachers/society etc............}}

Cheema sahib, I am truly distressed by your unrepentant ladiniat. Forget about Ananth07 – he is a najis Hindu idolator and cannot be expected to know better. You however have had the inestimable advantage of a Muslim upbringing. Despite this you have allowed yourself to be hoodwinked by Western science and your own arrogant confidence in the powers of the unaided human intellect.

Ab bhi vakth hai – you can still repent of your repellent apostasy and revert to the Straight Path which was revealed for all times to come in the Quran-ul-Furqan Tariq-ul-Majid! If you require advice or assistance there are many erudite alims available on Chowk itself. Revert, revert, revert – or go to hell!

Re: # 284

I have written quite a bit about this "religion of nature" concept before; nature doesn't follow religious doctrine. If it was such a "natural" thing to be muslim, people wouldn't be dissecting it out as we are.

As for the "god's message getting perverted", where was he when it was happening? Surely an omniscient god would have known exactly what was to become of his "previous" messages; why send those messages at all!

However, if we DO accept your argument for a minute, Mohammed was born about 600 years after Jesus; god saw it fit to "revise" his message because it had been perverted; its 1400+ years since Mohammed now, by the same analogy, shouldn't we have had some further "revised/updated" editions of the messages as well?! You mean Jesus went through the trouble for NOTHING! Only to be corrected later because the "original" was so quickly perverted!! Maaan!...

Sometime I wonder.........................Do you guys ever think OR are you just robots conditioned by your parents/teachers/society etc............

#284

“Islam is the Straight Path – the original and pristine religion – the Religion of Nature, in perfect accord with reason and rationality itself.”


abrahamic religions are dogmatic and are bound to their respective books, which in turn makes them “relevant” only to that particular time and region when they came in to being. Science and free flow of information can only weaken these religions.

Ananth07 #283

{{The fact is Islam is a derived object of parent judeo christain object…. With a few new properties.}}

Incorrect. Totally false and baseless. Islam is the base class, if you will.

Islam is the Straight Path – the original and pristine religion – the Religion of Nature, in perfect accord with reason and rationality itself.

Unfortunately humankind being perverse strayed from the path and fell into error. That is why Allah SWT sent prophets like Moses and Jesus to bring humans back to the original faith. Despite these many mercies mankind still went astray. Judaism and Christianity in their present or even historic forms are not progenitors of Islam – they are corruptions of the original and perfect message which is Islam.

Finally Allah SWT sent Prophet Muhammad as the Final Prophet to convey the true message in its pristine original form so that mankind might revert to the Straight Path once and for all. This is a great gift which Allah SWT has given to you, a mercy for all mankind. No further law-bearing prophets are required or expected; those who claim to be such are nothing but monsters of heretical depravity.

The fact is Islam is a derived object of parent judeo christain object…. With a few new properties.

Why cant muslims accept Ahmadi as a derived object of parent object Islam…. Ahmadi also have a few new properties….

Re: # 281

Paaji, I am only asking you to sort it all out! Don't make any exceptions though, like the Shias, Brelvis etc...... I reckon someone who believes in the intercessary powers of, say Data Ganj Bakhsh Ali Hajveri, is committing the same crime.........you are intelligent enough....

Re: # 276

Yaar cheema saab, Motiyaan waali sarkaar,

There is no doubt that there is a very significant element in Islam that is also there in Judo-christian traditions. For faithfuls it means the continuity of same faith across the times while for non beleivers it means what you want to pin point. Depends your angle of looking. But What I am saying that this similarity of Islam with Judo/christian traditions has nothing to do whatsoever with ahmadi/non ahmadi question.

Cow produces more reniewable resource (milk, dung-solid fuel, dung-fertiliser) than its meat. So, it was prudent to keep it alive than kill and eat.

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Certain vitamins and most of carb,fat and proteine is basically synthesized in animal/plant body as result of reaction. Tough, the primary chain starts with plant, but even aniamls produce some chemicals, which it does not consume as food. In fact, couple of amino-acids are avaialble only in meat & egg and can not be supplimented. But that, do you need all types of amino acids for survival. Most of the yoga books prescribes vegetarian food. So, I believe that vegetarian food is healthier than non-veg stuff.