H P March 1, 2008
#382 Posted by majumdar on March 10, 2008 9:51:30 pm
HP sain,
Where have I bashed India. I have merely expressed my disappointment at India's failures and tried to locate (one of the more important) source of the same.
Regards
Where have I bashed India. I have merely expressed my disappointment at India's failures and tried to locate (one of the more important) source of the same.
Regards
#381 Posted by akcheema on March 10, 2008 9:37:46 pm
Re: # 380
They have learnt their lessons and moved on in a big way. If you want to be stuck in a rut for the rest of your lives, fine. Problem is you are insisting on taking the rest of us with you.
That is the perspective mate.
BTW; how many wars have YOU personally lived through?
Why does everyone insists on having THIRE OWN experiences of war to learn any lessons!
HP, you wnat to die for some cause and kill someone like-minded on the opposing side in the process, the two of you have my blessings to do so; leave the rest of us alone!
They have learnt their lessons and moved on in a big way. If you want to be stuck in a rut for the rest of your lives, fine. Problem is you are insisting on taking the rest of us with you.
That is the perspective mate.
BTW; how many wars have YOU personally lived through?
Why does everyone insists on having THIRE OWN experiences of war to learn any lessons!
HP, you wnat to die for some cause and kill someone like-minded on the opposing side in the process, the two of you have my blessings to do so; leave the rest of us alone!
#380 Posted by HP on March 10, 2008 9:28:10 pm
#378 Posted by akcheema
Cheema sahib the most enlightened nations of their era fought two devastating wars with in a span of 30 years. what do you think of that? Irony is that after killing millions of their own and others, they are still the most civilized and enlightened nations in the world.
On top of that they don't like to even hear about that and still call people like you, barbarian! everything should be looked at in the right perspective!
Pacifism is a misplaced emotion and no pacifist had ever been recognized as the world leader.
To fight and war is human!
Cheema sahib the most enlightened nations of their era fought two devastating wars with in a span of 30 years. what do you think of that? Irony is that after killing millions of their own and others, they are still the most civilized and enlightened nations in the world.
On top of that they don't like to even hear about that and still call people like you, barbarian! everything should be looked at in the right perspective!
Pacifism is a misplaced emotion and no pacifist had ever been recognized as the world leader.
To fight and war is human!
#379 Posted by HP on March 10, 2008 9:22:21 pm
#374 Posted by jang
#373 Posted by jang
#375 Posted by majumdar
#377 Posted by majumdar
Any particular reason for this India bashing?
#373 Posted by jang
#375 Posted by majumdar
#377 Posted by majumdar
Any particular reason for this India bashing?
#378 Posted by akcheema on March 10, 2008 8:51:46 pm
Re: # 377
I know what you mean; I have had similar frustrations with my side but this madness doesn't seem to want to stop. (Please raed my interact # 260)
I don't see any other way out, do you?
These "territorial" disputes will have to stop and we'd need to learn to move on, if not for us than for our next generation. Why is it so difficult to get this concept across?.....The biggest "achievements" of the two countries are related to being "nuclear"; shameful! Neither has the maturity to look after such arsenal; Pakistan probably a lot worse than India.
The disputes such as the Argentinians and the Falklands mentioned before, what did they get out of it in the end? Absolutely nothing. Hong Kong etc went to China but not through warfare. Gibralter, with the EU now, becomes less and less significant as an issue.
I know what you mean; I have had similar frustrations with my side but this madness doesn't seem to want to stop. (Please raed my interact # 260)
I don't see any other way out, do you?
These "territorial" disputes will have to stop and we'd need to learn to move on, if not for us than for our next generation. Why is it so difficult to get this concept across?.....The biggest "achievements" of the two countries are related to being "nuclear"; shameful! Neither has the maturity to look after such arsenal; Pakistan probably a lot worse than India.
The disputes such as the Argentinians and the Falklands mentioned before, what did they get out of it in the end? Absolutely nothing. Hong Kong etc went to China but not through warfare. Gibralter, with the EU now, becomes less and less significant as an issue.
#377 Posted by majumdar on March 10, 2008 8:36:38 pm
Cheema sahib,
if 70% of your people were c***ping by the railways side 60 years after freedom, you wudn't think very differently.
Regards
if 70% of your people were c***ping by the railways side 60 years after freedom, you wudn't think very differently.
Regards
#375 Posted by majumdar on March 10, 2008 8:21:08 pm
Jang,
Re: 373/374
Very well said. The Hindu racist, casteist, fascist, misogynist bigoted freak, his chamcha (whom he appointed as PM) and the chamcha's daughter all did India in.
Regards
Re: 373/374
Very well said. The Hindu racist, casteist, fascist, misogynist bigoted freak, his chamcha (whom he appointed as PM) and the chamcha's daughter all did India in.
Regards
#374 Posted by jang on March 10, 2008 8:14:06 pm
what i mean is india has the fattest azz in the area but does not pull its weight economically. its infra sucks, its poverty makes sub-sahara and newyorleons look good, its state is weak and its politics (all 4, 5 or six columns) rotten. until it gets its act together, there is no hope for the region.
#373 Posted by jang on March 10, 2008 7:55:23 pm
india has failed miserably ECONOMICALLy and therfore imposing a legitimate hegemony on the region of south asia. for that india and nehruvians should apologize to all of us.
#372 Posted by majumdar on March 10, 2008 7:48:20 pm
GT,
(In the Narsimha Rao govt. they had 3, yes three, seats in the Parliament. The Rath Jatra is followed by Babri Masjid and in the next election BJP forms the govt!!!)
Minor correction. The BJP was reduced to 2 LS seats in 1984 when Rajiv Gandhi got his mandate (PVNR hapened in 1991). They got 88 in 1989 in partial alliance with JD- then Rath Yatra then 1991 elections where they got 119. Babri followed in Dec 1992 and in 1996 they became the largest political party in LS.
Regards
(In the Narsimha Rao govt. they had 3, yes three, seats in the Parliament. The Rath Jatra is followed by Babri Masjid and in the next election BJP forms the govt!!!)
Minor correction. The BJP was reduced to 2 LS seats in 1984 when Rajiv Gandhi got his mandate (PVNR hapened in 1991). They got 88 in 1989 in partial alliance with JD- then Rath Yatra then 1991 elections where they got 119. Babri followed in Dec 1992 and in 1996 they became the largest political party in LS.
Regards
#371 Posted by bjkumar on March 10, 2008 6:47:10 pm
#255 Zeemax you old fool!
Are you the shady character who got chowk to dock my compensation, too?!
And why are you hiding in that koap-bhawan of the "chowk connect" sandaas?!
Are you the shady character who got chowk to dock my compensation, too?!
And why are you hiding in that koap-bhawan of the "chowk connect" sandaas?!
#370 Posted by laddu on March 10, 2008 6:34:34 pm
Re: # 369
hamid mia,
why not hold referendum in Pakistan whether Baloochistanis want to live with Punjabis.
Or for that matter Sindhis want to live with Punjabi....
Or Mohajirs ..... or The Talibs.
or Whether Shias want to live with Sunnis.....
or whether Muslims in America want to live with the White Christian guys....
come on.....the nuisance value of questions of "difference" is enormous.........
Why not have a referendum in America if they want Pakis around or not - doodh ka doodh paani ka paani ho jayega!!!
hamid mia,
why not hold referendum in Pakistan whether Baloochistanis want to live with Punjabis.
Or for that matter Sindhis want to live with Punjabi....
Or Mohajirs ..... or The Talibs.
or Whether Shias want to live with Sunnis.....
or whether Muslims in America want to live with the White Christian guys....
come on.....the nuisance value of questions of "difference" is enormous.........
Why not have a referendum in America if they want Pakis around or not - doodh ka doodh paani ka paani ho jayega!!!
#369 Posted by hamidm2 on March 10, 2008 5:44:20 pm
Re: # 367
laddu mian,
.... look, there is nothing wrong with defending your territorial integrity - argentina went to war with the uk over a few sheep on a rock in the middle of the ocean ..... why don't we just hold a referendum in kashmir - all of it - and see what the kashmiris want ....if you win the laddus are on me ..... does that sound fair ?
laddu mian,
.... look, there is nothing wrong with defending your territorial integrity - argentina went to war with the uk over a few sheep on a rock in the middle of the ocean ..... why don't we just hold a referendum in kashmir - all of it - and see what the kashmiris want ....if you win the laddus are on me ..... does that sound fair ?
#368 Posted by laddu on March 10, 2008 5:32:42 pm
Re: # 359
"Laddu, I am reading the document you mentioned; listen to Hamidm Sahib, our kids grow up learning more from Bollywood than they ever do from textbooks!"
Great Cheemaji!1 I would request rest of the the chowkis (including Indian) to read this report.
The stereo-types of a 'cunning' Hindu who bows to idols kept in small dingy temples is very much subtly implanted in the minds of Pakistani children very early.
The Kashmir problem is actually a communal problem- that is why no Indian wants to touch it because every peace loving indian considers the issue of TNT settled way back in 1947.
No Indian hindu or a muslim wants to open up the communally vile and perverted issue of TNT any more.
"Laddu, I am reading the document you mentioned; listen to Hamidm Sahib, our kids grow up learning more from Bollywood than they ever do from textbooks!"
Great Cheemaji!1 I would request rest of the the chowkis (including Indian) to read this report.
The stereo-types of a 'cunning' Hindu who bows to idols kept in small dingy temples is very much subtly implanted in the minds of Pakistani children very early.
The Kashmir problem is actually a communal problem- that is why no Indian wants to touch it because every peace loving indian considers the issue of TNT settled way back in 1947.
No Indian hindu or a muslim wants to open up the communally vile and perverted issue of TNT any more.
#367 Posted by laddu on March 10, 2008 5:12:25 pm
Re: # 331
"lo kar lo baat...gaand me dum nahi, hum kisi se kum nahi...
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD186508:
Never underestimate the nuisance of Quranic programming. Once Pakis feel better their "Jazba-e-Jehad" is going to increase.
Heck, even hamidm wants to 'settle' the kashmir issue!!!
"lo kar lo baat...gaand me dum nahi, hum kisi se kum nahi...
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD186508:
Never underestimate the nuisance of Quranic programming. Once Pakis feel better their "Jazba-e-Jehad" is going to increase.
Heck, even hamidm wants to 'settle' the kashmir issue!!!
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