Dost Mittar March 3, 2008
#145 Posted by vengatramanan on March 16, 2008 7:27:52 am
Manto,
You too sound equally simplistic, when trying to say that Muslims are discriminated by the state or the majority of the Indians. Did you ever think, a peaceful India is what the majority of Indians would want? A christian in India do not have to wear a veshti.
You too sound equally simplistic, when trying to say that Muslims are discriminated by the state or the majority of the Indians. Did you ever think, a peaceful India is what the majority of Indians would want? A christian in India do not have to wear a veshti.
#146 Posted by vengatramanan on March 16, 2008 8:50:53 am
Manto,
I am interested to know your pov on the Taslima attack in Hyderabad. The perpetrators were bold enough to come on NDTV/CNN-IBN to proclaim the validity of the fatwa on her.
Where's the terrified minority?
TN CM is bold enough: to be a Hindu aethist,to use stunning epithets against Hindus,
but never misses a ifthaar party and the
skull cap.
I am interested to know your pov on the Taslima attack in Hyderabad. The perpetrators were bold enough to come on NDTV/CNN-IBN to proclaim the validity of the fatwa on her.
Where's the terrified minority?
TN CM is bold enough: to be a Hindu aethist,to use stunning epithets against Hindus,
but never misses a ifthaar party and the
skull cap.
#147 Posted by ISlamIslam on March 16, 2008 9:05:27 am
Ref vengatramanan #143
[IslamIslam,
The other day, when I was asked to recite the DB connection code line by line, over phone, I just went blank. What's your inference?]
My inference is that you are a brain-dead Golt with an education obtained solely on the basis that you fit into some OBC quota.
[IslamIslam,
The other day, when I was asked to recite the DB connection code line by line, over phone, I just went blank. What's your inference?]
My inference is that you are a brain-dead Golt with an education obtained solely on the basis that you fit into some OBC quota.
#148 Posted by dost_mittar on March 16, 2008 9:07:40 am
Manto#142:
There is a significant number of muslims in what was east punjab. Here are the figures from 2001 census:
Chandigarh 409,615
Haryana 1,222,916
Himachal 119,512
Punjab 382,045
They add up to over two million muslims. New mosques are coming up in all major cities of Punjab - Ludhyana, Chandigarh, Amritsar. However, a qualification is in order, most muslims in punjab, outside Maler Kotla, are not Punjabi speaking but more recent migrants from other states.
There is a significant number of muslims in what was east punjab. Here are the figures from 2001 census:
Chandigarh 409,615
Haryana 1,222,916
Himachal 119,512
Punjab 382,045
They add up to over two million muslims. New mosques are coming up in all major cities of Punjab - Ludhyana, Chandigarh, Amritsar. However, a qualification is in order, most muslims in punjab, outside Maler Kotla, are not Punjabi speaking but more recent migrants from other states.
#149 Posted by vengatramanan on March 16, 2008 9:30:34 am
Re: # 147
Perfectly ok answer from you, considering the years of cramming your people have put in for generations.
Now, you got in deep shit when you tried to set that as the benchmark. I know a Brahmin mongrel, at Tirunelvely who topped the state and became an agri engineer, only to be brain fukced by the peasants on the street. He has no clue about what he has learnt. Let me know if you can provide a helping hand. Fyi He is closely related to Bharathiar.
Perfectly ok answer from you, considering the years of cramming your people have put in for generations.
Now, you got in deep shit when you tried to set that as the benchmark. I know a Brahmin mongrel, at Tirunelvely who topped the state and became an agri engineer, only to be brain fukced by the peasants on the street. He has no clue about what he has learnt. Let me know if you can provide a helping hand. Fyi He is closely related to Bharathiar.
#150 Posted by vengatramanan on March 16, 2008 9:42:39 am
Re: # 149
The funny thing was, in addition to pawning his brain to the fertilizer companies, he started advising the farmers to perform yagams and had a numerologist side kick to suggest name changes for them. All this didn't help in good yields.
Let me know if you have time for more Brahmin stories.
The funny thing was, in addition to pawning his brain to the fertilizer companies, he started advising the farmers to perform yagams and had a numerologist side kick to suggest name changes for them. All this didn't help in good yields.
Let me know if you have time for more Brahmin stories.
#151 Posted by vengatramanan on March 16, 2008 9:43:57 am
Re: # 149
The funny thing was, in addition to pawning his brain to the fertilizer companies, he started advising the farmers to perform yagams and had a numerologist side kick to suggest name changes for them. All this didn't help in good yields.
Let me know if you have time for more Brahmin stories.
The funny thing was, in addition to pawning his brain to the fertilizer companies, he started advising the farmers to perform yagams and had a numerologist side kick to suggest name changes for them. All this didn't help in good yields.
Let me know if you have time for more Brahmin stories.
#152 Posted by ajeya on March 16, 2008 10:02:41 am
#133 MantoLives
[So let me get this straight. You are saying that any Muslim who follows the Quran or believes in Islam is a terrorist? In other words anyone who believes in Islam is automatically a terrorist?]
No. He/she is automatically an enabler of terrorism, and responsible for supporting a movement that is MUCH more insidious and harmful for humanity than Communism, Fascism and Nazism combined.
Just like the party members of the Nazi party were not all evil people, but were all enablers of evil.
[So let me get this straight. You are saying that any Muslim who follows the Quran or believes in Islam is a terrorist? In other words anyone who believes in Islam is automatically a terrorist?]
No. He/she is automatically an enabler of terrorism, and responsible for supporting a movement that is MUCH more insidious and harmful for humanity than Communism, Fascism and Nazism combined.
Just like the party members of the Nazi party were not all evil people, but were all enablers of evil.
#153 Posted by nkg on March 16, 2008 7:11:28 pm
Re: # 83
Oh, Pakistan will threaten USA for what? Couple of suicide bombs? If Pakistan is surviving, it is due to Arab Oil. When USA does not need that, they don't need to pamper Pakistan. After 9/11, they have shown that. Pakistan is no Vietnam (disciplined and hard working society).
Can you please elaborate Pakistan's strength? Taxi cab drivers in Europe, USA or Indian Restaurant owners/workers in Europe and USA, does not make it strong in the respective country. Only in one field, you are ahead of rest is breeding. That does not make any community strong.
Oh, Pakistan will threaten USA for what? Couple of suicide bombs? If Pakistan is surviving, it is due to Arab Oil. When USA does not need that, they don't need to pamper Pakistan. After 9/11, they have shown that. Pakistan is no Vietnam (disciplined and hard working society).
Can you please elaborate Pakistan's strength? Taxi cab drivers in Europe, USA or Indian Restaurant owners/workers in Europe and USA, does not make it strong in the respective country. Only in one field, you are ahead of rest is breeding. That does not make any community strong.
#154 Posted by nkg on March 16, 2008 7:30:04 pm
Re: # 131
In HDI index , Cuba was far ahead of China during 1970s. China may be permanent member of security council, but only member without it's own defence technology. They solely depend upon technology transfer from Russia. So, Cuba should have been preferred than China, if Cuba have deserted Russian block. The reason was geopolitical closeness. China and Pakistan is plced in between India and Russa. So, USA needed these two countries and tried to infuse some power in it.
In HDI index , Cuba was far ahead of China during 1970s. China may be permanent member of security council, but only member without it's own defence technology. They solely depend upon technology transfer from Russia. So, Cuba should have been preferred than China, if Cuba have deserted Russian block. The reason was geopolitical closeness. China and Pakistan is plced in between India and Russa. So, USA needed these two countries and tried to infuse some power in it.
#155 Posted by nkg on March 16, 2008 7:32:58 pm
Re: # 142
Overall non-moslem population is decreasing in Pakistan. Can you explain the decrease of overall numbers (not merely %)? In contrary, overall percentage of muslims are increasing in India. May be it is your islamic value system to lie. Just drift away litte from Islam, and be honest.
Overall non-moslem population is decreasing in Pakistan. Can you explain the decrease of overall numbers (not merely %)? In contrary, overall percentage of muslims are increasing in India. May be it is your islamic value system to lie. Just drift away litte from Islam, and be honest.
#156 Posted by nkg on March 16, 2008 8:05:08 pm
Re: # 132
If Ahmadis and Sikhs are more educated, then it may be their better social culture and value system. In India, Parsis and Anglo Indians are most advanced group. Does that imply, GOI takes special steps to promote them? Moslems are backward than upper caste hindus everywhere (UK and USA is nice example of it). So, backwardness of muslims in India is quite natural. Pakistan was created out of that fear (muslims can not compete with hindus in jobs. Job reservation in 1909 and 1919 by Lord Curzon had not solved the problem). Rather, the way Govt. of India pampers muslims (initially it was on the garb of minority. Now directly, 1000 crores for muslims alone!!!!).
If Ahmadis and Sikhs are more educated, then it may be their better social culture and value system. In India, Parsis and Anglo Indians are most advanced group. Does that imply, GOI takes special steps to promote them? Moslems are backward than upper caste hindus everywhere (UK and USA is nice example of it). So, backwardness of muslims in India is quite natural. Pakistan was created out of that fear (muslims can not compete with hindus in jobs. Job reservation in 1909 and 1919 by Lord Curzon had not solved the problem). Rather, the way Govt. of India pampers muslims (initially it was on the garb of minority. Now directly, 1000 crores for muslims alone!!!!).
#157 Posted by majumdar on March 16, 2008 8:07:54 pm
Yasser,
(In Indian Panjab the Muslim population is next to nothing. Infact, you will find a lot more Pakistani Sikhs in Pakistani Punjab than Punjabi Muslims in Indian Punjab.)
Haryana, HP and Punjab constituted the erstwhile Indian Punjab. The proportion of Muslims is 5.8%, 2.0% and 1.6% respectively.
(source: Census of India)
Proportion of Hindus in Pak Punjab 1.85 (incl SCs), Others (0.7%) which I suppose wud include Sikhs as well.
(Source: http://www.statpak.gov.pk/depts/pco/statistics/other_tables/pop_by_religion.pdf)
But I suppose 1.6% wud be next to nothing while 1.92% wud be a plurality!!!
Coming to Sindh the birthplace of the secular PPP and homeland of MAJ (pbuh)- the % of Hindus and SCs- 7.5%. By contrast the pop of Muslims in Hindoo fanatic Modiland -9.1%.
Regards
(In Indian Panjab the Muslim population is next to nothing. Infact, you will find a lot more Pakistani Sikhs in Pakistani Punjab than Punjabi Muslims in Indian Punjab.)
Haryana, HP and Punjab constituted the erstwhile Indian Punjab. The proportion of Muslims is 5.8%, 2.0% and 1.6% respectively.
(source: Census of India)
Proportion of Hindus in Pak Punjab 1.85 (incl SCs), Others (0.7%) which I suppose wud include Sikhs as well.
(Source: http://www.statpak.gov.pk/depts/pco/statistics/other_tables/pop_by_religion.pdf)
But I suppose 1.6% wud be next to nothing while 1.92% wud be a plurality!!!
Coming to Sindh the birthplace of the secular PPP and homeland of MAJ (pbuh)- the % of Hindus and SCs- 7.5%. By contrast the pop of Muslims in Hindoo fanatic Modiland -9.1%.
Regards
#158 Posted by nkg on March 16, 2008 8:29:48 pm
Re: # 146
Terrified Minority?
Moslems dominate the criminal space in India. Remember the haydays of Dawood Ibrahim, Chhota Shakil, Anis Ibrahim... these dons with Dubai as head office...
Terrified Minority?
Moslems dominate the criminal space in India. Remember the haydays of Dawood Ibrahim, Chhota Shakil, Anis Ibrahim... these dons with Dubai as head office...
#159 Posted by nkg on March 16, 2008 9:29:10 pm
Re: # 146
As per my experience in Mumbai and Kolkata, there are couple of muslims ghettoes ( sometimes called mini-Pakistan), which people even dare to enter at day time ( sometimes even police). This is example of terrified moslems!!!!
As per my experience in Mumbai and Kolkata, there are couple of muslims ghettoes ( sometimes called mini-Pakistan), which people even dare to enter at day time ( sometimes even police). This is example of terrified moslems!!!!
#160 Posted by ISlamIslam on March 17, 2008 12:00:35 am
Ref Golt #151
[...he started advising the farmers to perform yagams and had a numerologist side kick to suggest name changes for them. All this didn't help in good yields.]
What were the new names?
Were they along the lines of Tamil Selvan or Tamil Kudimagan? Or, more like Sudalaikkannan and Mannankatti?
[...he started advising the farmers to perform yagams and had a numerologist side kick to suggest name changes for them. All this didn't help in good yields.]
What were the new names?
Were they along the lines of Tamil Selvan or Tamil Kudimagan? Or, more like Sudalaikkannan and Mannankatti?
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