Pervez Hoodbhoy March 10, 2008
#841 Posted by zeemax on March 17, 2008 1:49:12 am
#821 Posted by HP
..how the hell would I know who did it.
How the hell do you know who did not?
Do you know who ordered Laiquat's murder?
I think it was the Hayat's of Wah who ordered it.
I doubt that NAP people did that because there was no reason for them to kill him!
You must be kidding. Hayat Sherpao had single-handedly built up PPP as a formidable force in NWFP against the hitherto unchallenged NAP.
He was a small fry and had nothing to do with what Bhutto and the army did to the NAP government in NWFP and Baluchistan.
He was no small fry. He was extremely popular and had great potential. Also see above.
..how the hell would I know who did it.
How the hell do you know who did not?
Do you know who ordered Laiquat's murder?
I think it was the Hayat's of Wah who ordered it.
I doubt that NAP people did that because there was no reason for them to kill him!
You must be kidding. Hayat Sherpao had single-handedly built up PPP as a formidable force in NWFP against the hitherto unchallenged NAP.
He was a small fry and had nothing to do with what Bhutto and the army did to the NAP government in NWFP and Baluchistan.
He was no small fry. He was extremely popular and had great potential. Also see above.
#840 Posted by masadi on March 17, 2008 1:24:12 am
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#839 Posted by masadi on March 17, 2008 1:21:12 am
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#838 Posted by ana on March 17, 2008 1:07:57 am
majumdar:
Thank you for your explanation. I was not referring to my own understanding of what he had written. I was using that as an example of why some others besides the usual enfants terribles like Hamid, who masadi thinks would be up past midnight to redflag his posts, but who perhaps was more likely sleeping off his qeemati scotch would make a useless effort to redflag his statements.
But thank you for your efforts as well. :)
Thank you for your explanation. I was not referring to my own understanding of what he had written. I was using that as an example of why some others besides the usual enfants terribles like Hamid, who masadi thinks would be up past midnight to redflag his posts, but who perhaps was more likely sleeping off his qeemati scotch would make a useless effort to redflag his statements.
But thank you for your efforts as well. :)
#837 Posted by majumdar on March 17, 2008 12:54:24 am
Ana,
What Masadi sahib means is that the tribesmen from FATA were never interested in harassing either the Americans or the Pakis until 1979 or so. They kept to themselves. Then it was the Yanks and Pakis who jihadised them for their onw interest (harassing USSR, strategic depth for Pak). And then one day decided that jihad was not kosher and started bombing the Pushtoons for being Talibs.
Regards
What Masadi sahib means is that the tribesmen from FATA were never interested in harassing either the Americans or the Pakis until 1979 or so. They kept to themselves. Then it was the Yanks and Pakis who jihadised them for their onw interest (harassing USSR, strategic depth for Pak). And then one day decided that jihad was not kosher and started bombing the Pushtoons for being Talibs.
Regards
#836 Posted by ana on March 17, 2008 12:20:38 am
Masadi #830, #831
Those "terrorists" were never America's problem, they were not even Pakistan's problem. . .
You don't think that anyone besides Hamid would contest the "absolutely nothing objectionable" in this statement? With all the bakwaas we see here on a daily basis. Seriously, man, please remove your dunce cap and put your thinking one on. . .
Those "terrorists" were never America's problem, they were not even Pakistan's problem. . .
You don't think that anyone besides Hamid would contest the "absolutely nothing objectionable" in this statement? With all the bakwaas we see here on a daily basis. Seriously, man, please remove your dunce cap and put your thinking one on. . .
#835 Posted by ijaz_gul on March 17, 2008 12:08:07 am
There are two strains of militants active at the momment. The Al Qaeeda Strain who operate in Tribal Areas and against specific targets.
Then there are the home grown darlings belonging to the extremist fringes and sometimes inter linked with Taliban, sometimes not. They attack mosques (mostly Shia), churches etc. they were responsible for events that Ana alludes to.
Then there are the home grown darlings belonging to the extremist fringes and sometimes inter linked with Taliban, sometimes not. They attack mosques (mostly Shia), churches etc. they were responsible for events that Ana alludes to.
#834 Posted by ana on March 17, 2008 12:01:29 am
HP #826
Gaps and speculation aside, it would not be completely beyond the realm of possibility for missionary schools to be attacked. It happened after all in 2002 in Jhika Gali, as well as churches. . . places where mostly foreign (read: amreeki) nationals are. . .as well as apne
Gaps and speculation aside, it would not be completely beyond the realm of possibility for missionary schools to be attacked. It happened after all in 2002 in Jhika Gali, as well as churches. . . places where mostly foreign (read: amreeki) nationals are. . .as well as apne
#832 Posted by ana on March 16, 2008 11:44:07 pm
Masadi,
I am sure that Hamid has better things to do than to be awake at a very late hour, redflagging your posts. There are other people here besides Hamid who are perfectly capable of doing this.
I suggest you curb your paranoia, because it is growing fast.
I am sure that Hamid has better things to do than to be awake at a very late hour, redflagging your posts. There are other people here besides Hamid who are perfectly capable of doing this.
I suggest you curb your paranoia, because it is growing fast.
#831 Posted by masadi on March 16, 2008 11:21:56 pm
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#830 Posted by masadi on March 16, 2008 10:58:00 pm
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#829 Posted by vengatramanan on March 16, 2008 10:48:08 pm
Re: # 802
Ahmedmadani Saab,
VC firm = VC company does what.
If thats a straight forward question, a VC firm funds new ventures/startups that are deemed risky by the conventional/conservative lending institutions. VC stands for 'venture capitalists'. VCs live life king size :) cos they extract a huge ROI than the safe lenders.
Ahmedmadani Saab,
VC firm = VC company does what.
If thats a straight forward question, a VC firm funds new ventures/startups that are deemed risky by the conventional/conservative lending institutions. VC stands for 'venture capitalists'. VCs live life king size :) cos they extract a huge ROI than the safe lenders.
#828 Posted by nkg on March 16, 2008 10:22:38 pm
Re: # 805
The purpose of 1971 war was to stop migration from East Pakistan to India. It was the humanitarian crisis, which had led to the war. I don't think Congress or India had any sympathy towards Bangladeshis (these scoundrels were first to start genocide against Bengalees/ No moslems). If, during partition, the population exchange was done properly, India had the option of staying away from the war. Tripura, Assam and West Bengal border were deluged with non-moslem refugees. India has not benifitted from this war, but Pakistan had. They had got easy way out to get rid of the Eastern Wing (population wise Bangladesh is bigger than Current Pakistan. So East Pakistan would have controlled everything).
The purpose of 1971 war was to stop migration from East Pakistan to India. It was the humanitarian crisis, which had led to the war. I don't think Congress or India had any sympathy towards Bangladeshis (these scoundrels were first to start genocide against Bengalees/ No moslems). If, during partition, the population exchange was done properly, India had the option of staying away from the war. Tripura, Assam and West Bengal border were deluged with non-moslem refugees. India has not benifitted from this war, but Pakistan had. They had got easy way out to get rid of the Eastern Wing (population wise Bangladesh is bigger than Current Pakistan. So East Pakistan would have controlled everything).
#827 Posted by nkg on March 16, 2008 10:11:42 pm
Re: # 593
Quite stupid. What US will gain from keeping base in Pakistan in an unstable Pakistan? It will consume resource and will not fulfill its purpose. European colonialism had kept islamic menace in backburner (for couple of centuries). Now it is surfacing again.
Quite stupid. What US will gain from keeping base in Pakistan in an unstable Pakistan? It will consume resource and will not fulfill its purpose. European colonialism had kept islamic menace in backburner (for couple of centuries). Now it is surfacing again.
#826 Posted by HP on March 16, 2008 9:17:56 pm
Ijaz,
These dots don't connect because there are just too many gaps.
Perhaps the civvies are being set up for failure in six months.
"Missionary schools may become targets of suicide bombers.....'
Why that?
These dots don't connect because there are just too many gaps.
Perhaps the civvies are being set up for failure in six months.
"Missionary schools may become targets of suicide bombers.....'
Why that?
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