Pakistan: The War of Drones

Re: # 93 kaalchakra, you will understand this

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
For I understood true jihad
I was a muslim.

When the jihadis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
For I understood true jihad
I was a muslim.

When they locked up the mirzayis,
I remained silent;
For I understood true jihad
I was a muslim.

When they came for the Hindus,
I did not speak out;
For I understood true jihad
I was muslim.

When they went for the world,
I remained silent;
For I understood true jihad
I was a "true" muslim.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out


that is the poredicament people in places like Pakistan are.

They are hardworking and industrious people. But they are also ones who live in a make believe world and a world of puff-statements. They have long forgotten to look beyond their noses and see the "real" world around them.

Re: # 93

chakri,

..... this is not as far fetched as you think .... i know a number of people who are one fuse short of a suicide belt ......... all it will take is another day of brooding or a lecture from dr israr, an inflamatory 'column' by pavocavalry, a fiery rant against the us by dr shahid masood, getting fired from the job or being spurned by a woman ...... it can happen any time .... people like urstruly and masadi fall in this category ..... zeemax is not yet there - he is part of the chigoza gallery and is short at least a couple of sticks of dynamite and a fuse ........

kamath #96 and what are hindu suicide bombers hoping to become in their next incarnation(and tamil hindus were in this business of suicide bombings long before the arab apes introduced it in pakistan)?

and what are the hindu animals who poured boiling water over the head and pulled the finger nails of this pakistani ex-cricket fan hoping to become in their next incarnation?

thanks in advance for our enlightening answer about the virtues of hinduism.

Although i didnt read the article i completely agree with Dr Hoodbhoy on all the points that i am sure he made.

In terms of our paki terrorists the crime is not blowing yourself up with a soap bomb instead of using a sophisticated detonating device ...the crime is being in no intellectual military or economic state to win a fair fight and hence resorting to pathetic and weak tactics to try and create a world that NOONE wants to be part of including other pakis.

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in #101, read "he knows equal little about Pakistani and US society " as

he knows equally little about Pakistani and US society

And read "two things stood out which show the ordinary person why what I wrote about is true" as

two things stood out which show the ordinary person why what I wrote above is true


By the way, when I mean the Americans leave us alone, I also mean that thier occupation force, the Pakistan Army, gets the hell out of our affairs as well.

#100 Posted by cliftonbridge,

Well you don't need to read the article. I gave the two-line synopsis in #82!

A very well written piece by Pervez describing the situation with suicide bombings as it exists in Pakistan today. I couldn't agree with it more. The real question is how do you stop this self-destruction of a nation that has serious consequences for the entire world and force a course reversal? If the great majority of Pakistanis including the apologists for the bombers truly condemn the actions of the few, would it be sufficient? These bombings have spawned a new culture with its roots in the Afghan resistance of the Soviet Union in 80s backed by US, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. This culture has developed in two decades in Pakistan's tribal belt and gained strength more recently. There are many culprits, Pakistanis of all stripes are culpable to varying degrees. But so are many others. In my humble view, there are no quick fixes. We (Pakistanis backed by Americans, Saudis, the Europeans etc.) must start by addressing what Pervez describes as the "enabling environment of poverty, deprivation, lack of justice, and extreme differences of wealth is perfect for demagogues". At the same time, we must continue to act against those who orchestrate these crimes in the name of Islam. If we do one without the other,the chances of success are zero. If we do both, we can entertain the hope of ending it in a decade or two. It's in the best interest of all to begin this effort quickly and earnestly.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

heya zee

yes i know ...i based my 4 line synopsis on your two line synopsis :)

zeemax:

Have you heard anything about the kind of private business that was attacked in Model Town and why. This is quite unusual from the pattern. It seems that the phenomenon is evolving.

#106 Posted by Urstruly,

It appears to have been an attack on Ijaz Batalvi. That ad agency was owned by his son. I don't think the two attacks were related.

Q. Would suicide bombings ever end??

Ans. The blood thirsty moon god prefers the blood of martyrs

As per Allah's preference -

Blood of 1 martyr 'IsGreaterThan' 20000 kafirs, munafiqoon and murtid's blood ,

Therefore, the suicide bombings can never stop. Not until Islam is established all over the world.

It is Allah's will.

QED

tahmad

the arab apes especially Saudis pay napak fouj handsomely to keep Arab fighters engaged in Afghanistan and away from their own countries. The apes are in fact on your side.

There will be a time and place to teach these apes a lesson for keeping your people from hajj but this is not the time and place. Try to deal with the bigger threat first. Apes do wonders if given the chance; ask arjun

#102 Posted by masadi:

"when I mean the Americans leave us alone, I also mean that thier occupation force, the Pakistan Army, gets the hell out of our affairs as well."

This seems to be the only way out. This should be the slogan for the next phase of the LSM/LMP movement. I agree with you, asking questions like "why would a boy jump off a cliff" is simply childish ... at least at this point of time. It is equally childish, for some interactors here to applaud the "human bomb" from posh living rooms in far off places while rejecting it as a choice for themselves. But let us leave this issue for now. I believe that there is a huge support in Pakistan (as well as in chowk), for getting rid of American interference and for curtailing the power of the army. LSM/LMP should turn to this issue asap.

Ijaz Batalvi of-course was the prosecutor for Zia in the ZAB case. As I've said before, a lot of score-settling is going on in this free for all because an easy scape goat is available.

#106 My brother tells me that the bombers' car was being followed by a Police car, and they just entered in the Ad agency house, because the gate was jarred opened and they blow the car up. 2 little kids died in that blast.