A Great Day, A New Hope for Pakistan

Kamal bhai,

Take it from me, it is not a day of new hope for pakistan, it is more of teh same. nawaz sheriff is sticking with PPP only to sack mushy, it is a case of tribal personal revenge, nothing more than that, and definitely not a love of democarzy.

Once mushy is out, then all of the heel will break loose. Zardari will become 30 percent man, nawaz will join the jihadis.

No one in pakistan cares about the country, and it is reasonable, zardari and nawaz could try a new innings because of the money they accumulated. It will be money making, high speed, and it will be another coup and the story goes on.

There is actually no reason for any of teh actors to change tack. The peiople are more concerned about some stupid cartoon, not about price rises or power cuts.

In pakistan the rot started at the top and at the very beginning. The assets left behind by the hindus were distributed by the govt to people to get their support, and thus corruption started from teh beginning. No one since then has been able to contain it. This has created a culture in which the pakistanis will do anything for money . That is why the memebership to cento, then the money from the arabs to support afghan jihad, and now it is the chinese money. There is no notion of personal integrity in the islamic societies, it is subsumed under following of the koran literally. People take koran literally, no where it says that one cannot accumulate a few prados and people find comfortable in doing that. There is no notion of civil laws, it is all sharia laws, one can do a few honour killings in the morning and go to work in a govt office with out any hang ups and that is pak society.

Here is one from dawn of today what is happening at the lower levels of pak society.

Owning govt Prados


THIS is apropos of Marzia Bilwani’s letter, ‘Owning govt Prados’ (March 13). I was shocked to learn that a close friend of mine, serving in a government department in Karachi, i.e. KWSB, told me that the managing director of his department has 11 cars at his residence, including two brand new Prados, one is still unregistered.

In addition to that, the chief engineer, bulk water supply, who is a junior officer, has recently purchased a brand new Prado, which is only in his family’s use. He has another official car from the department.

Such statistics and facts sometimes make me feel as if I live in some other rich country, I am back on the ground and I am made to realise that even in developed countries it is not permitted or allowed, at least on government expenses.

It is good that the pakis have elected a woman speaker, sybolism is a good start. Then again, the woman may have been threatened with honour killing if she did not take up the job to secure a few prados for the male family members.

Dear Kamal Sahib

Balanced and well written article with a few exceptions here and there, but overall the message was excellent.

Thanks

Arif

Its haram to receive orders from woman according to sahih bukhari's hadeeths where prophet muhammed has confirmed this by saying those who take orders from women wont prosper ever...so shall we go by Islam prophet or western/british type parliament ethics set by kafars?

Re: # 5
mmenug

nothing to worry, islam will re-assert itself in any islamic republic, and the new woman speaker is only as far away as the next jihadi.

It is a great day for teh islamic republic of pakistan. Pakistani organisaions ahve been credited with the first jihadi attack in china.

from jang of today

They were carrying Pakistani passports,” the source said. “That does not mean they’ve concluded they were Pakistani nationals. The passports may have been fake or illegally obtained.” But the source also said the woman had been born in Xinjiang and spent many years in Pakistan.

An aviation industry source who asked not to be named said the woman was a young Uighur who was trained by a Pakistan-based militant group, while the man was from Central Asia and in his 30s. A third suspect, a Pakistani, who masterminded the bungled attack was at large, the aviation industry source said.

The suspects boarded the plane with two canned drinks, the content of which had been replaced with a flammable liquid using a syringe, the second source told Reuters. The woman failed to light the liquid in the plane toilet, the source said. She aroused the suspicion of crew and other passengers when she came out of the toilet to pick up the second can.

The Chinese foreign ministry, reached by telephone, had no immediate comment. The Xinjiang official Wang said that suspects had already confessed to planning, directing and initiating the failed attack. But he did not specify what country they operated from. Xinjiang is home to eight million Muslim Uighurs. The oil-rich region borders Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Getting ready for the new government by destroying the land records that PPP plans to investigate. from jang of today

All Karachi land records gutted
Friday, March 21, 2008
By Tahir Hasan Khan

Karachi

The mysterious fire that erupted at the office of the Board of Revenue (BoR) on Thursday morning not only burnt all records of Karachi lands but also destroyed important evidence regarding land fraud as well as changes in the records allowing illegal allotment of land worth Rs80 billion. This has seriously hampered the on going investigation being conducted by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) and the Anti-Corruption Department.

Official sources said that all six rooms of the office were destroyed by the fire where the land record of Evacuee and survey record were dumped. The sources claimed that there was no alternative record of the survey and demarcation of Karachi’s land available in any other department of the government.

The sources also claimed that the old land record of 1909-10, prepared by the British officials, the record of prime land of 92 Dehs of the city, maps, land registers, demarcation records and field books were burnt completely by Thursday’s fire.

The fire erupted at the office of the Superintendent of Survey of Land destroying six rooms including the office of Additional Secretary, Land Utilisation.

However, the records of the direct allotment orders of former chief minister Ghulam Arbab Rahim were saved, the sources maintained.

The officials said that the Sindh Governor Dr Ishratul Ebad had ordered an inquiry into the fraud in land records that was alleged to be worth Rs80 billion last year and six Mukhtiarkar and 36 Tappedars were suspended for their alleged involvement in the fraud.

However, the officials said that the inquiry into the matter was stopped on the intervention of an ‘influential personality’.

The officials said that the authorities concerned were worried by the warnings issued by the PPP leaders that all illegal allotments and fraud in the BoR would be investigated once the party took over the administrative and governing reigns of the province. The PPP had won clear majority in Sindh in the Feburary 18 elections and will form the next government.

This election should never have happened. It essentially marks the beginning of the end. Nothing can change the fact that Sharif and Zardari are both criminals, who ideally should not be alive, never mind contesting elections. I predict economic collapse and civil war.

“much needs to be done for democracy to move ahead in Pakistan.”
Pakistanis recycled the "Dynasties" to lead them to Parliamentary Democracy?
It is said:
Khaetey thhey hum hee hain Democracy kay muhaafiz?
Wasiyat mey likh gaye par betay ko muhaafiz!

Siyaasi maslihat ney kar diyaa unko qareeb
Kaltak jo thhey corruption mey ek-doojay kay raqeeb.

Loottay thhey mulk siyaasi ikhtiyaar may doe haat say
"Khoob guzreygee" abb toe iss mulk par doe doe haat say

Yehee haalat rahee siyaasat may Pakistan kee
rahey Allah hee haafiz haalat pe Pakistan kee

I think I get the message
Rashid

Kamal,

I liked your article but I do agree with Leadenwinter's comments as well.
I am living in UAE and if I compare leaders of this younger country I really feel excited.
Sharif proved to be a successful businessman in Saudi I wish he can bring the same success in Pakistan's businesses as well (not yellow cap scheme)
Zardari backed by Peoples party and Late BB have proved herself in UAE as pour breed of successful investor and business woman, I wish her son also show that commitment to Pakistan as he have showed in learning karate, hunting and shooting..

God grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the Courage to change the things I can and the Wisdom to know the difference.

Pakistan has a fair way to go before we can declare any day to be great. Refreshing perhaps but great would be a gross over statement. These elections were a sour pill which general musharaf had to take; pressured by international community and political parties he had little if no option. The landscape doesnt look any different then that of 1980. The coalition of PML-N and PPP will face grave challenges in the light of petroleum, energy, wheat, water, employment and extremist threats.

What is sad that there hasnt been any radical change in the direction of our country; same thugs are back from exile and now are the new defenders of democracy. But what option do we as citizens have; Mr Zardari looks a changed man perhaps the responsibility of leading the PPP has left a profound impact on his personality and judgement; surely hope so. The deposed Chief Justice became the protector of judiciary only when his actions were put under scrutiny. Not long back our heroic CJ took oath under the first Emergency order; but hush we are not suppose to talk about this.

The fact is that pakistan faces grave challenges. Even if petrol is sold at Rs 100 a litre it is still cheaper then the international market; and the goverment would still need to subsidies it at that rate. This summer the energy crisis is expected to be the worst in this countrys history. The wave of suicide bomb attacks is the gift of general musharaf's policies of pleasing the west and the USA. He has only looked after his personal intrests and has in his thirst for power left this country on the very brink of disaster.

Lets all hope and pray that the newly elected members will act wisely to face these challenges. And abandon the politics of hate; self gratification and personal gains. Security First, Energy First, Water First, Food First, Jobs First, and above all my dear friends Pakistan First

#12 it may be the "same thugs", but thugs who have learnt their lessons the hard way. as for the Chief Justice - by any standard he is the greatest Pakistani. The fact is that all he had to do to stay in power was rubber stamp musharraf's criminal actions. Instead, he started putting his foot down when he realized that the country was being run by a criminal - kidnapping people while making explicit and implicit "deals" with terrorists and their sympathizers, looting the country by trying to "privatize the steel mill" in the criminal manner russian mafia "privatized"..

Richard Holbrooke (perhaps the most astute and realistic US diplomat and democrat) finally seems to be understanding what any true Pakistani (as opposed to those who spend their time berating fellow Pakistanis) knew all along!!

Hope in Pakistan
The Problems Are Real, but So Is the Progress
By Richard Holbrooke
Friday, March 21, 2008; Page A17

..the return of a vibrant democratic process ..They have formed a Pakistani version of a grand coalition...Since Musharraf's real power base was as military commander, when he "took off his uniform" last year, it turned out that his residual power as president was largely ceremonial..Another positive straw in the wind is the poor showing of the overtly religious parties in February's elections -- they got only 4 percent of the total vote. In the volatile tribal areas near the Afghan border, where the Taliban and al-Qaeda have had a sanctuary from NATO operations in Afghanistan, the Muslim parties were shut out..But Pakistan..is too big and its civil society -- with its deeply established political parties, its free press, its vibrant and very visible lawyers, its thousands of nongovernmental organizations, its huge business community, and its own moderate Muslim leaders -- too extensive to in fact become "the world's most dangerous nation."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/0 3/20/AR2008032003016.html

Re: # 5

Please be good enough to quote the Hadith text in its entirity.

Having taken many orders from my mother, I've only prospered!

Regards.

#5 Posted by meenug on March 20, 2008 4:45:16 am
{"Its haram to receive orders from woman according to sahih bukhari's hadeeths where prophet muhammed has confirmed this by saying those who take orders from women wont prosper ever..."}

Dear MeeNg sahib,
I mentioned your post to my very religious wife who ordered me to shut up and go back to sleep. Thanks for the slight encouragement, anyway.

Regardless of my personal political opinion, most certainly it is a great day in the history of Pakistan to see a democratic process in progress.
It's high time that all of us (Pakistanis) feel sincerely about our nation, our homeland and it's citizens, and once again sacrifice our personal ego in favor of a flourishing homeland, where we can erase our differences and come together to seek peace, harmony and happiness for each other.
We should thank Allah SWT for what HE has blessed us with and stop seeking from creatures of equal status, and, bow to Allah SWT to seek from HIM as there is no limit to when HE blesses us, it is all possible only if we are sincere in our sought.
Let us respect and regard each other and forget our differences, let us coexist with tolerance instead of driving wedges amongst ourselves, and, remember "united we stand, divided we fall".