Zardari Rev 2

#30 Posted by akcheema,

make sure these bastards do what they are there for!

Mind your language, you product of the milkman!

#31 Posted by bulleya,

Kamran Lashari was the head of Horticulture ... parks etc. He is a brilliant administrator - very perceptive and motivated - and was responsible for parks and greenery, plus his biggest achievement, the excellent Gawal Mandi Food Street.

But he had nothing to do with any of the hard infrastructure in Lahore. Nawaz Sharif did, personally.

zeemax #: "Barkhurdar, Lahore ko kya aussies ney aa kar nya banaya tha?"

from what i have heard, lahore was fixed by kamran lashari, who is now the head of cda in islamabad (?)....and islamabad is starting to look better, already.......

Re: # 28 Zee bhai

I have seen the Nya Lahore, certainly better than before but in the greater scheme of things, LONG OVERDUE. That is what governments are supposed to do aren't they?

"Ik shehr nu saaf ker kay saade agleyan pichhleyan te ki ihsaan keeta ve?" What about the rest of the country and infra-structure?

This is not a dig. Unfortunately our mindset has always been to settle for second best.

Zee bhai, make sure these bastards do what they are there for! The system of accountability has to be right up there.

I only hope my fears are baseless.

Jayp rf786
Pakistani politicians,media and civil society is still learning the craft of intellectual masterbation like the majority of chowkees.Once they master this craft they will take the next step of logical thinking and analysis.Long way to go.

#11 Posted by akcheema

Zee Bhai...What has ANY one of them done for the country?

Barkhurdar, Lahore ko kya aussies ney aa kar nya banaya tha?

Jayp bhai,

Unfortunately, politicians all over the world are the same low life breed, ambitious tothe extent of being greedy with no scruples.

Only way to hold them accountable is via elections, democratic process. As for the people, well they will have to make civil society strong enough for their voice to be heard and take active part in party politics to forward their issues.

The ducated pakistnis have analysed the breed of gillani. How about any policy directions.

For nawaz, it is only a question of kicking out mushy. He hopes to do it by reinstating the CJ, who will do it for him.

For zardari, it is a question of recovering the drain on his money in the last ten years, to refill the cofers in swiss bank, so that he is ready to be kicked out in another five years time.

There is no talk what so ver in teh pak papers about hwat the govt should do in the next 100 days.

how about some electricity for karachi.

how about addressing the fuel crisis.

...erm, maybe i was a bit carried away there in my last post!
I HOPE he can be the best PM ever by trying to uphold the ethical and moral standards of his illustrious forebears....

yusuf raza gilani is a sayyid-zada and descendent of ghawth azam and a gaddinasheen?! subhan Allah! He has my support already...in fact i will carry his shoes as a mark of honour to his illustrious ancestors!

:-)

He will be the best PM ever!
Allahu Akbar!


p.s. rf786 is correct: the panjabi and sindhi pirs ALL supported qaid e azam and the pakistan movement along with the JUP and all the sunni-barelvi ulama. chief amongst them was hazrat pir sayyid jama'at ali shah sahib rahmatullah alayhi...in fact without the votes of the murids of these pirs pakistan wouldn't have been formed cos the Muslim League needed these votes...

it was the deobandis/whabis like JUI, Maududi etc. who opposed pakistan's creation and who mocked the qaid as 'kafir e azam'.

in fact the deobandi mullahs were so far up congresses backside they even invited gandhi to their mosque to do a speech on the minbar! la hawla wa la quwwat...

and now people like fazloo and his fuzla-father act like they were the thaykadaars of pakistan!

Re: # 21

Lahore Resolution of 1940 never mentioned Pakistan by name, point being concept of Pakistan took a turning point when Muslim League emerged victorious in the 1945-46 elections commanding complete control in the center and majority in the provincial legislature. Thus the emphasis on post 1946, if we were to go back further in time then Maulana Azad was also member of the Muslim League and changed sides in 1920.

You have mentioned two names, both ended being part of Pakistan now whether that was by choice or compulsion is irrelevant and more importantly there were far many more Pir/feudals (Mamdot, Nishter, Daulatana, Pagara, Bugti, Khan Abdul Qayyum, Maulana Sattar Niazi) who supported the cause of Pakistan.

ahmedmadani #: "But who's father what did is over emphasized. PM minister is not farm to produce through bred horses."

..yes i agree....this is true......though, in pakistani politics, whom one father is has a huge impact on his/her politics....

rf786 #:"many and can u name just a few who opposed formation of Pakistan post 1946..."

the pakistan resolution, to the best of my knowledge, is dated pre-46, not post 46........i am not sure why you have picked post 46.....by 46, jinnah and his muslim league had defeated the leaders who opposed pakistan....

punjab and nwfp were brought into pakistan, kicking and screaming, by jinnah.....at least their leadership was.....

so to answer your question.....take leader of punjab and nwfp, who had a feudal/pir background, and you will find then in opposition to pakistan....to be particular, take any unionist in punjab.....and to be even more particular, khizar tiwana.....

by post-46, all had lost.....

Re: # 13 Mr. Romair i respect you for you give good analysis.
But who's father what did is over emphasized. PM minister is not farm to produce through bred horses.

Re: # 18

Dear Maj

Bulleya had incorrectly paint brushed all Pir/Feudals opposed to Pakistan. Granted, there were feudals (Unionists) and religious parties (JI, JUI) opposed to Pakistan, but (a) they were not Pir's and (b) there were also counter forces that supported creation of Pakistan (JUP, Bugtis, Nishtars etc) who were the followers of Sufi Islam.

By the way, I am still waiting for bulleya to quote few Pir/feudals that opposed Pakistan.

Arifbhai,

Pre-1946 most of the Punjabi notables the Unionists opposed Pakistan. Only after they saw that Pakistan was inevitable or that INC rule cud mean end of fedualism did they switch over. YLH can expand on this.

Regards