The Irreverent Hero Islam Forgot

For those who get confused by reading Eklavya's long, winding explanations, here is a shortened version of his #196.

"Tahir bhai, you are delicious! Burp!"

Eki, don't be afraid of conflict. There has always been conflict there will always be conflict. You as a kafir, should be glad...u have better resources, better intellect, and there is no need to kneel and bob five times a day. So stop being afraid.

Chalta, dunno what to say to that...There is only conflict that way... :(

[Some argue that this conflict is inevitable, but still one keeps hoping and looking for a way out at one's own little level...]

tahir #195 " Islam's great leader or anything like the caliphs"

the prophet was a messenger, not a political leader. the caliphs have no religious significance in islam. Get that clear in your head first.

Then realize that caliph is just another word for a king or a dictator. So, looking into the past for "guidance" from caliphs as as stupid as driving on a highway while looking at the rear view mirror.

God gave you a brain that is better than that of a goat. So use it.

No..but one should make as fun as possible of choots who believe in elephant gods riding rats or those who kneel and bob to the moon god from arabia. For those within these believers who think they are special, should be put into little special ed school buses and dropped off a cliff...for those who think that shit written thousand years ago as tribal laws for a local society is relevant today, should be tarred and feathered...and those who are waiting for a one eyed devil..should just look in their pants and messiah would come.

We don't have time for these idiots eklavya...we are trying to evolve and frankly don't have time to cater to relics of a mediocre past wth mediocre thought. Except for making fun of them and where appropriate dropping a daist cutter or two or even lubing up the ramrod,

CA, some people are happy to have their elephant-nosed god ride around on a rat's back. Some can't wait to get to all that cheese awaiting them on the moon.

So long as you don't put the rat-god and the moon-cheese together, what's the problem?

A billion plus people also believed that the earth was flat, the moon was made of cheese and on the 7th day god rested to smoke a blunt.

Cheema,

hamid2 is always around to make fun of all religions. It's quite an envious job.

One leaves this place for a couple of hours and look what you come back to!

Zeemax and Tahir Bhai: As far as I am concerned, the matter is closed unless "aap ne gadhay murday ukhaadhne hein?". Water under the bridge.

That penis envy thing Tahir bhai can still be up for discussion (don't worry you can spell it fully, no need for innuendos!; don't tell me the word makes you blush!!Common!).

Eklavya bhai; mostly "sar kay ooper say guzar geya; keya karain dimaagh hi aisaa hai bhayya". That doesn't mean you should ramble on on the subject more though! When I called you Eklavya "the chakkerbaaz", I used it advisedly.

The hindus here; what can I say. I have criticised some of the silliness of Abrahamic faiths so far; please don't even get me started on your version of the same gobledeegook please! May be not a bad idea; might even generate a laugh reaching all the nooks and crannies of the land! Let us leave it there guys.

What I have learnt so far is that most of the truth behind belief is hidden well behind "thick scotch mist!". That can have the capacity to make it fascinating, like fairytales to a child (for me at least), or make others do silly things at times. This is NOT just one single set of faith/values though; none of them are immune from this nonsense. It is best to interpret this exactly as it is, hidden behind scotch mist. It is when we become very sure and certain of "the truth (our version)", the problems start. Worse, when we try to impose it on others.

The reason mankind invented religion/gods etc is essentially an extention of "the imaginary friend" psychology of childhood. Subsequently, this permeated into the wider human psyche as "the clan" concept, to bring a group of people together (for mutual identification).Now have your imaginary friend console you, give you hope personally etc, don't expect others to just "see him/her" exactly "how YOU see it"! because that is when the problems start.

Learn to live and let live for once! and don't let anyone (especially some fairy in the skies or ridiculous looking statues), divide up humanity.

Cheers; and Happy Easter/Eid Milad/Holi/others etc etc.....Amen (sorry for the belated message).

CA, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet but connoisseurs care :)

As to logic being circular etc., who cares if it work perfectly for a billion plus people?

eklvya, did tampax show you how he kneels and bobs, yet? it is written in quran or is it qu'raan or koran or q-ran or kewron or kuron or simply the compendium of 7th century circular logic.

In post #198, I meant, colonialist, while quoting Winston Churchill.

zee, thanks for clarifying that important distinction between bowing (in respect and admiration) and prostrating (in surrender) yesterday. I will keep it in mind.

#193 Posted by tahir,

Maestro, please tell me which books, what interviews, and who is this Ham-Damn2 who is about to lose his better half to you?

Guess I don't have to say about the books and the interviews , but I can say about Mrs. hamidm2. she's a Momina (from what he has told us), and would gladly dump him for a Momin if she had the slightest chance.

So, Mrs. Hamidm2 Zindabad!

Zeemax

Post #159

" He badmouths Jinnah for being some sort of dictator while supporting musharraf."

To quote a so called parliamentarian (though a colonist to the core),Winston Churchill, "The honourable gentleman is being economical with the truth."

On the contrary, Mr Cowasjee has been praising Mr Jinnah as if he was the best thing ever happened to Pakistan, since the arrival/introduction of sliced bread. All along he has been quoting excerpts from Mr Jinnah's various speeches relating to freedom for everybody.

Actually, it has been quite tiring to see Mr Cowasjee quoting Mr Jinnah, day in and day out. And many a times, even when it did not warrant.

By the way, I have not read him/his coloumn for over 3 years now. If things have changed during this period, I do not know.

I seem to have a contracted a bad case of 'greats' in #196. Lame excuse: agree or disagree with Propeht Muhammad and Mr. Jinnah, it's impossible to overuse that word when describing these two men even briefly.