William Dalrymple March 19, 2008
#292 Posted by akcheema on March 26, 2008 12:55:14 am
Re: # 290 [NOTICE:
Let the populace know that Mr. Cheema has not been annointed by any religious authority, nor authorised to speak on the subject.]
AND No: 288 [Momins please take note of this blasphemy.]
Tahir sahib, blasphemy IS 'Kufr'; according to YOUR statement, tahmed has committed blasphemy (Kufr); the committer of 'Kufr' is "Kafir".
You have just annointed every red-blooded Muslim in the land for the job sir; we must perform our religious duty........
Cheers
Let the populace know that Mr. Cheema has not been annointed by any religious authority, nor authorised to speak on the subject.]
AND No: 288 [Momins please take note of this blasphemy.]
Tahir sahib, blasphemy IS 'Kufr'; according to YOUR statement, tahmed has committed blasphemy (Kufr); the committer of 'Kufr' is "Kafir".
You have just annointed every red-blooded Muslim in the land for the job sir; we must perform our religious duty........
Cheers
#291 Posted by VRV on March 26, 2008 12:23:44 am
Saudi king Abd ul-Lah said this yesterday:
"The idea is to ask representatives of all monotheistic religions to sit together with their brothers in faith and sincerity to all religions as we all believe in the SAME God,"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_interfaith_dialogue
Though Pakistanis disgaree on UP abt this issue, the final word came from King himself who confirmed that the God of the Jews, Christians and Muslims is the same.
Thank u King.
"The idea is to ask representatives of all monotheistic religions to sit together with their brothers in faith and sincerity to all religions as we all believe in the SAME God,"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_interfaith_dialogue
Though Pakistanis disgaree on UP abt this issue, the final word came from King himself who confirmed that the God of the Jews, Christians and Muslims is the same.
Thank u King.
#290 Posted by tahir on March 26, 2008 12:02:50 am
Re: # 225
First admit that you practise what is mandatory in the Qur'an. You appear to prostrate before your own likes and dislikes.
NOTICE:
Let the populace know that Mr. Cheema has not been annointed by any religious authority, nor authorised to speak on the subject.
First admit that you practise what is mandatory in the Qur'an. You appear to prostrate before your own likes and dislikes.
NOTICE:
Let the populace know that Mr. Cheema has not been annointed by any religious authority, nor authorised to speak on the subject.
#289 Posted by akcheema on March 25, 2008 11:58:30 pm
Re: # 288
[Mr. Tahband Battees (dhoti-32) or Tohmat Battees (charge-32) says:
"Religious God" is based not on the Quran but on a jahil culture".]
Allah maafi tauba!.... Kafir......Kafir.......Kafir.........
.......lynch him!....lynch him....lynch the bastard!....
Happy!...
and you are right about poets as well; just don't ever quote Iqbal in front of me again (include Ghalib as well; he came up with some crazy ideas whilst drunk; hang on, Iqbal too!).
Thanks and Khuda Hafiz to you sir. Some of us have to work.
Cheers
[Mr. Tahband Battees (dhoti-32) or Tohmat Battees (charge-32) says:
"Religious God" is based not on the Quran but on a jahil culture".]
Allah maafi tauba!.... Kafir......Kafir.......Kafir.........
.......lynch him!....lynch him....lynch the bastard!....
Happy!...
and you are right about poets as well; just don't ever quote Iqbal in front of me again (include Ghalib as well; he came up with some crazy ideas whilst drunk; hang on, Iqbal too!).
Thanks and Khuda Hafiz to you sir. Some of us have to work.
Cheers
#288 Posted by tahir on March 25, 2008 11:50:31 pm
Re: # 224
Mr. Tahband Battees (dhoti-32) or Tohmat Battees (charge-32) says:
"Religious God" is based not on the Quran but on a jahil culture".
Momins please take note of this blasphemy.
Mr. Tahband Battees (dhoti-32) or Tohmat Battees (charge-32) says:
"Religious God" is based not on the Quran but on a jahil culture".
Momins please take note of this blasphemy.
#287 Posted by tahir on March 25, 2008 11:41:35 pm
Re: # 221
"All religions, Abrahamic or otherwise, are man-made. WE created the God(s) in OUR image not the other way around."
Stay away from rotten theories and wicked literature if you wish to have mental peace. Come to your senses doctor before the patients start complaining too!
The next thing you'll propose now is: daddy and mommy created every atom in your body!
"All religions, Abrahamic or otherwise, are man-made. WE created the God(s) in OUR image not the other way around."
Stay away from rotten theories and wicked literature if you wish to have mental peace. Come to your senses doctor before the patients start complaining too!
The next thing you'll propose now is: daddy and mommy created every atom in your body!
#286 Posted by tahir on March 25, 2008 11:32:51 pm
Re: # 218
You forgot to impress us completely dear!
"Whatever good happens to thee is from God; and whatever evil befalls thee is from thyself."
Now who said THAT? Take a guess...
You forgot to impress us completely dear!
"Whatever good happens to thee is from God; and whatever evil befalls thee is from thyself."
Now who said THAT? Take a guess...
#285 Posted by tahir on March 25, 2008 11:25:07 pm
Re: # 214
"Only the erring follow the poets"
Who said that? The Sublime and the Subtle in Qur'an, of course!
"Only the erring follow the poets"
Who said that? The Sublime and the Subtle in Qur'an, of course!
#284 Posted by tahir on March 25, 2008 11:19:34 pm
Re: # 214
Funny! But it nicely explains away the mystery of those who follow a 'khalifa' who specialises in circumcision!
Did he really inspire you to take up chop-chop surgery?
Funny! But it nicely explains away the mystery of those who follow a 'khalifa' who specialises in circumcision!
Did he really inspire you to take up chop-chop surgery?
#283 Posted by tahir on March 25, 2008 11:13:02 pm
Re: # 212
Kumar sahib, your ability to sum it up (burp) has been duly (another burp) noted.
Regards.
PS: burrrrrp....
Kumar sahib, your ability to sum it up (burp) has been duly (another burp) noted.
Regards.
PS: burrrrrp....
#282 Posted by tahir on March 25, 2008 11:08:43 pm
Re: # 209
Dear man-with-a-brain-larger-than-my-own,
Did Prophet Muhammad stop after he purified worship and helped mankind to seek true guidance? It had to grow from personal to regional, and then global. He did not stop at just teaching everyone how to perform 'wudu'?
Man's faith is linked with living. Only you see politics as something seperate from faith.
In the meantime, you may continue to worship the golden calf of neo-con caliphs. Those who curse the rightly-guided ones are indeed unblessed to the core. Every once in a while, one must glance at the rear-view mirror.
I will see you again, won't I?
Dear man-with-a-brain-larger-than-my-own,
Did Prophet Muhammad stop after he purified worship and helped mankind to seek true guidance? It had to grow from personal to regional, and then global. He did not stop at just teaching everyone how to perform 'wudu'?
Man's faith is linked with living. Only you see politics as something seperate from faith.
In the meantime, you may continue to worship the golden calf of neo-con caliphs. Those who curse the rightly-guided ones are indeed unblessed to the core. Every once in a while, one must glance at the rear-view mirror.
I will see you again, won't I?
#281 Posted by tahir on March 25, 2008 10:54:39 pm
Re: # 199
Is this the Moth Smoke/Reluctant Fundamentalist man?
It is important to know what level of madness one is confronted with on CHOWK!
Regards.
Is this the Moth Smoke/Reluctant Fundamentalist man?
It is important to know what level of madness one is confronted with on CHOWK!
Regards.
#280 Posted by masadi on March 25, 2008 9:44:04 pm
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#279 Posted by akcheema on March 25, 2008 8:26:52 pm
Re: # 275; tahmed bhai
I reply as follows:
1 - There is a well-recognised difference b/w 'deism' and 'theism'; read up and tell me if I am wrong
2 - Believe in Father Christmas or the Tooth Fairy if it helps; doesn't mean they are real
3 - If you think that by rejecting 'unsuitable' aspects of Qur'an and Sunnah and selective reading etc., you can call yourself anything but Muslim; Ahmadis do the same when it comes to the concept of "khatm-e-nabuwwat"; otherwise the basic theology etc is the same as Sunni Islam; If they insist on being called Muslims, are you going to accept it at face value?
4 - The interacts I was referring to were over the last month; not just the last three that suited your needs; please don't apply your selective understanding to everything else in life as well
5 - Your assertion about the Swedes; that my friend is called the effects of Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD); there are also genetic explanations as well; they do it quietly (personal matter); not blow everyone else up til kingdom come as well
6 - If this "all-inclusive" concept of God you are into now (like Zeemax tried to distract me with Ghalib thinking I might not be able to deliver!), then what the hell does it matter anyway! "dar hashr da rakhiyay dil vich kiyun, jad mein hi naeen teh fair dar kaa'da"!
I am not trying to convert anyone, can you reassure Eklavya for me; he seems pretty concerned for some bizzarre reason. If we all kept our ideas to ourselves then what is the point of language in the first place.
Now stop sulking and be a good boy.........
Cheers
I reply as follows:
1 - There is a well-recognised difference b/w 'deism' and 'theism'; read up and tell me if I am wrong
2 - Believe in Father Christmas or the Tooth Fairy if it helps; doesn't mean they are real
3 - If you think that by rejecting 'unsuitable' aspects of Qur'an and Sunnah and selective reading etc., you can call yourself anything but Muslim; Ahmadis do the same when it comes to the concept of "khatm-e-nabuwwat"; otherwise the basic theology etc is the same as Sunni Islam; If they insist on being called Muslims, are you going to accept it at face value?
4 - The interacts I was referring to were over the last month; not just the last three that suited your needs; please don't apply your selective understanding to everything else in life as well
5 - Your assertion about the Swedes; that my friend is called the effects of Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD); there are also genetic explanations as well; they do it quietly (personal matter); not blow everyone else up til kingdom come as well
6 - If this "all-inclusive" concept of God you are into now (like Zeemax tried to distract me with Ghalib thinking I might not be able to deliver!), then what the hell does it matter anyway! "dar hashr da rakhiyay dil vich kiyun, jad mein hi naeen teh fair dar kaa'da"!
I am not trying to convert anyone, can you reassure Eklavya for me; he seems pretty concerned for some bizzarre reason. If we all kept our ideas to ourselves then what is the point of language in the first place.
Now stop sulking and be a good boy.........
Cheers
#278 Posted by tahmed32 on March 25, 2008 6:17:09 pm
hamidm: So what about your claims that the Quran has verses which, if read aloud under a full moon turn normal men into bloodthirsty werewolves and normal women into lecherous she-devils? :-)
more seriously, if you have the "slightest mental problem" you dont need a reason to turn suicidal or homicial - in fact, the suicide rate is highest in places like Iceland and Sweden and Finland (no muslims there, no unwashed there). Same for homicide rates.
more seriously, if you have the "slightest mental problem" you dont need a reason to turn suicidal or homicial - in fact, the suicide rate is highest in places like Iceland and Sweden and Finland (no muslims there, no unwashed there). Same for homicide rates.
#277 Posted by hamidm2 on March 25, 2008 5:48:20 pm
Re: # 263
tahmed,
... i never said accepting islam makes you a criminal - it makes most people a fool (doorknob) ...... but if you have the slightest mental problem it will turn you into a suicider or homicider ..... like any other virus it attacks the old, the young and the feeble (minded) ...... on the other hand, some of my best friends are muslims and seem to be doing fine (so far) ...... but i do keep a wary eye on them for any tell tale signs of the full blown disease .......
tahmed,
... i never said accepting islam makes you a criminal - it makes most people a fool (doorknob) ...... but if you have the slightest mental problem it will turn you into a suicider or homicider ..... like any other virus it attacks the old, the young and the feeble (minded) ...... on the other hand, some of my best friends are muslims and seem to be doing fine (so far) ...... but i do keep a wary eye on them for any tell tale signs of the full blown disease .......
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