William Dalrymple March 19, 2008
#65 Posted by masadi on March 23, 2008 7:46:29 am
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#66 Posted by hamidm2 on March 23, 2008 7:48:08 am
zeemax,
..... one more thing - if zia-ul-haq had a protege, it was nawaz sharif ......... if the first khalifa had lived probably would have handed over the khilafat to his handmaiden ....... but i am willing to give him the benfit of doubt hoping that he has learned a lesson from his past follies and attempt to get installed as amir-ul-momineen ....... compared to him cowasjee is just a low level collaborator ......
..... one more thing - if zia-ul-haq had a protege, it was nawaz sharif ......... if the first khalifa had lived probably would have handed over the khilafat to his handmaiden ....... but i am willing to give him the benfit of doubt hoping that he has learned a lesson from his past follies and attempt to get installed as amir-ul-momineen ....... compared to him cowasjee is just a low level collaborator ......
#67 Posted by hamidm2 on March 23, 2008 7:49:11 am
Re: # 65
sweet dreams, sweet prince - don't forget to look under your bed for the us elite and other demons .......
sweet dreams, sweet prince - don't forget to look under your bed for the us elite and other demons .......
#69 Posted by masadi on March 23, 2008 7:57:17 am
one more thing before I go, tahmed #68, who the F are you to tell me to get lost, does this site belong to your papa?.
By the way, my comments on the photo that tahmed posted here can be read at this site http://chowk.com/interacts/13775
Regarding the "temptation" that he (tahmed) claims walked into his room, that was probably a 300lb dishwasher named Helga! It was a matter of life or death and he passed it by so he could write more BS on chowk....
now g'night
g'night
By the way, my comments on the photo that tahmed posted here can be read at this site http://chowk.com/interacts/13775
Regarding the "temptation" that he (tahmed) claims walked into his room, that was probably a 300lb dishwasher named Helga! It was a matter of life or death and he passed it by so he could write more BS on chowk....
now g'night
g'night
#70 Posted by hamidm2 on March 23, 2008 7:58:46 am
Re: # 62
eklavya,
....you are a charlatan !.... you missed out the most important form of islmic faith which should have been number one :
1) One follows the faith blindly and fanatically - he is convinced that he is right, that islam is destined to be the dominant faith and that everyone else is wrong. He wages war in the name of al-lah and his prophet. This is the koran and sunnah based view and is shared by those who speak for islam today.
........ stop being cute - it is not becoming !
eklavya,
....you are a charlatan !.... you missed out the most important form of islmic faith which should have been number one :
1) One follows the faith blindly and fanatically - he is convinced that he is right, that islam is destined to be the dominant faith and that everyone else is wrong. He wages war in the name of al-lah and his prophet. This is the koran and sunnah based view and is shared by those who speak for islam today.
........ stop being cute - it is not becoming !
#71 Posted by zeemax on March 23, 2008 7:59:46 am
#62 Posted by Eklavya,
You never cease to amaze me. You, being a non-believer/non-Muslim know Islam so well, that I bow before you.
You never cease to amaze me. You, being a non-believer/non-Muslim know Islam so well, that I bow before you.
#73 Posted by tahmed32 on March 23, 2008 8:06:59 am
#70 hamimdm: and what was your parents' understanding of islam on this question? and why are they mistaken in their understanding of islam?
#74 Posted by zeemax on March 23, 2008 8:19:56 am
... Sigh .... KaalChakra ... the quest continues:
#649 by kaalchakra on July 2, 2007 7:46am PT
Zee, don't feel bitter. It's not worth it, my friend :)
See, this is how, imho, consciousness evolves.
First, there is the stage of ignorance. Where an ignorant person believes that there is nothing "unique." Hindus, most of them, operate at this level.
Second comes the stage of stupidity. That's when one experiences the world a little, notices some facts, but militantly asserts that ignorance is what is good for him or her, NO MATTER WHAT. Almost all liberals operate at this level.
Third comes the stage of goodness. This is where a person knows differences but still feels committed to saving the world somehow. Since the world can not be saved, bitterness follows. This is zeemax' stage.
Finally one reaches the stage of kings and emperors. Here the objective is not to SAVE the world, but to RULE over it. Key requirements here are of equanimity and focus. That's were echodada operates. :)
#649 by kaalchakra on July 2, 2007 7:46am PT
Zee, don't feel bitter. It's not worth it, my friend :)
See, this is how, imho, consciousness evolves.
First, there is the stage of ignorance. Where an ignorant person believes that there is nothing "unique." Hindus, most of them, operate at this level.
Second comes the stage of stupidity. That's when one experiences the world a little, notices some facts, but militantly asserts that ignorance is what is good for him or her, NO MATTER WHAT. Almost all liberals operate at this level.
Third comes the stage of goodness. This is where a person knows differences but still feels committed to saving the world somehow. Since the world can not be saved, bitterness follows. This is zeemax' stage.
Finally one reaches the stage of kings and emperors. Here the objective is not to SAVE the world, but to RULE over it. Key requirements here are of equanimity and focus. That's were echodada operates. :)
#75 Posted by Eklavya on March 23, 2008 8:29:50 am
he he, I got to run, but Zee, you are a dear friend and a Muslim. A Muslim bows before none but Allah. I so wish we had anything like that. :)
Catch you later. :)
hamdim2, that's there as well. LOL
Catch you later. :)
hamdim2, that's there as well. LOL
#76 Posted by zeemax on March 23, 2008 8:30:32 am
#39 Posted by akcheema,
akcheema saheb,
May I request a final courtesy from you?
I promise to not call you a murtid anymore. In return you should spell Qur'an as 'Qura'an'. Not Koran.
Thanks and regards.
akcheema saheb,
May I request a final courtesy from you?
I promise to not call you a murtid anymore. In return you should spell Qur'an as 'Qura'an'. Not Koran.
Thanks and regards.
#77 Posted by hamidm2 on March 23, 2008 8:39:34 am
zeemax,
.... so you agree with my contention that nawaz sharif was a bigger collaborator than cowasjee ? ..... good! .. now we can move on
....... and how come you never asked me to spell koran the way you would like it spelled ? ........ i feel jilted - am i a smaller murtid-muslim than cheema-come-lately ? .... i have been waging jihad against you jihadis for years and this is the respect i get? .... or have i worn you guys down to the point that you are ready to give up on your bloody ways and follow the prophet(boy) tahmed in his quest for a kindler gentler islam ?
#78 Posted by zeemax on March 23, 2008 8:45:15 am
#75 Posted by Eklavya,
No ... a Muslim prostrates before no one but Allah. I acknowledge your insight and I bow to you, not prostrate.
Sovereignty of Allah is a difficult concept to grasp, in the context of governance and worldly affairs etc. I've been thinking of writing a post to ferozk re his #639 on Pavo's board, but he wouldn't understand, would he?
I will write that post in any case, because he brought up the question of how the west will never tolerate a Muslim system, which in his limited knowledge and insight he restricts that to just the criminal jurisprudence part of Sharia. All these educated and knowledgeable people are totally clueless.
The only difference is 'sovereignty of Allah', and nothing else. But that's a 'huge' difference. The west could happily co-exist with Muslims if only they would understand that. If they don't, there's nothing but conflict.
No ... a Muslim prostrates before no one but Allah. I acknowledge your insight and I bow to you, not prostrate.
Sovereignty of Allah is a difficult concept to grasp, in the context of governance and worldly affairs etc. I've been thinking of writing a post to ferozk re his #639 on Pavo's board, but he wouldn't understand, would he?
I will write that post in any case, because he brought up the question of how the west will never tolerate a Muslim system, which in his limited knowledge and insight he restricts that to just the criminal jurisprudence part of Sharia. All these educated and knowledgeable people are totally clueless.
The only difference is 'sovereignty of Allah', and nothing else. But that's a 'huge' difference. The west could happily co-exist with Muslims if only they would understand that. If they don't, there's nothing but conflict.
#79 Posted by hamidm2 on March 23, 2008 9:02:43 am
Re: # 78
zeemax,
.... are you trying to get away with your silly comment about cowasjee ?
.... and what is this sovereignty of the moon god if it is not sharia and all the barbarity that goes along with it ? ..... stop obfuscating .... the people of the world have been there with pharoahs, popes, prophets, messiahs, and other blood thirsty shamans and priests - we will not be misled and continue to spill blood at the altar of this or that god .....
... by the way, ekalvya is playing you for a fool but you are so eager for affirmation, specially from a hindoo, that you are lapping up his nonsense ...... i am sure you also wet your pants when you heard that michael jackson and mike tyson had reverted to islam !
zeemax,
.... are you trying to get away with your silly comment about cowasjee ?
.... and what is this sovereignty of the moon god if it is not sharia and all the barbarity that goes along with it ? ..... stop obfuscating .... the people of the world have been there with pharoahs, popes, prophets, messiahs, and other blood thirsty shamans and priests - we will not be misled and continue to spill blood at the altar of this or that god .....
... by the way, ekalvya is playing you for a fool but you are so eager for affirmation, specially from a hindoo, that you are lapping up his nonsense ...... i am sure you also wet your pants when you heard that michael jackson and mike tyson had reverted to islam !
#80 Posted by hamidm2 on March 23, 2008 9:12:21 am
ekalvya,
.... i just had a thought .... are you thinking of reverting to islam and then going on the masjid lecture circuit to make the big bucks ?........ muslims really lap up that kind of stuff, but you will have to get in line behind white men and women - a desi convert is not that much of a novelty .... i think you can make a lot more money if you follow in the footsteps of yogananda and maharishi - there is a bigger market for hindoo nonsense in places like california .....
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