The Vicious Circle of Violence

Re: # 23
Why don't you look our your neighbours... Pakistan and Bangladesh ( Sindh from 24% to 6% in 50 years, Bangladesh from 35% to 9% in 50/45 years...)....

Re: # 23
Why don't you look our your neighbours... Pakistan and Bangladesh ( Sindh from 24% to 6% in 50 years, Bangladesh from 35% to 9% in 50/45 years...)....

Akcheema
If we go by the figures that you have presented i.e.there were sizeable miniorities and in some places majorities till recently,it becomes easy to jump to the conclusion that muslims were decent rulers and they let the minorities prosper regardless of the ecnomic motives for doing so.Personally i believe muslims were less deamonical than the rest.

Re: 21 Sorry Zee bhai, my post got cut off in half so had to send it twice.

One last thing; until recently Lebanon was regarded as a Christian majority country (see figures below); not so any more; although the constitutional requirement for a prime minister to be a maronite christian continues.

Cheers.

Re: # 21; Zee bhai
don't get upset, I was merely directing the question to the appropriate authorities on the subject.

A couple of small points:

Coptics are from Egypt; descended from ancient Egyptians (Wallahu Aalam); mass migration out of Egypt into various European countries in the last few decades

Lebanese and Syrians are Orthodox Church not Coptics; Again, population proportion of Christians in Lebanon has dropped from 65% at the end of WWII to less than 30%; ongoing exodus continues; big pop. in Australia

Syria: Generally no major issues; as I said before elsewhere, the Islamist issue was "sorted out" by Hafiz Asad (Alawite himself) in 1982 (Hama); hence peace and quiet for a while

Iraq: we all know is not safe for anyone. Christians remain all but a miniscule minority since early 1990s with growing unrest and anti-christian feeling with the demise of the Baathists (secular) and the rise of Islamism; surely multiple factors at play here

Palestine: Again since the relaxed grip of PLO (secular) and increasing support for Hamas etc (Islamists), mass exodus and increasing marginalisation

I hope that puts everything in perspective.

Cheers

Re: # 21; Zee bhai
don't get upset, I was merely directing the question to the appropriate authorities on the subject.

A couple of small points:

Coptics are from Egypt; descended from ancient Egyptians (Wallahu Aalam); mass migration out of Egypt into various European countries in the last few decades

Lebanese and Syrians are Orthodox Church not Coptics; Again, population proportion of Christians in Lebanon has dropped from 65% at the end of WWII to

#17 Posted by akcheema,

"Why are there no minorities worth counting in Middle east? Kindly don't count Shia and Sunnis as minorities in those counteries" There are two guys, Eklavya and Zeemax, who can answer that question fully.

You're even more ignorant than the poster of the quoted nonsense. Even a quick wikipaedia check will tell you how many coptic christians are in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt ....

Next time go to the following link before making any ridiculous statement:

www.wikipedia.org

Christians broke treaties whenever it suited them. Muslims honored their treaties. Christians killed their minorities. Muslims allowed people of other faith to live their life or leave with their property. Even if Muslims had to kill people of other faith, they made sure they killed equal number of Muslims.
Ans:
http://www.iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/2/4793
List of wars Muhammed had fought peacefully....

Yes Mr. Murad A Beg....Peaceful spread on Islam in Persia ( AD-635-650.....

Ha Ha Ha....The first sentence is very funny.... Muhammed was apostle of peace ( fought 7/8 wars, looted properties, killed thousands of people.) Changed definition of peace....

The birthday of The Prophet Muhammad is a good time to remember that he was a man of "peace".

Many jihadis also believe in the above, they got the spelling wrong, "peace" they understood as "piece" and that is why they blowing people to pieces.

Re: # 16; friend
"Why are there no minorities worth counting in Middle east? Kindly don't count Shia and Sunnis as minorities in those counteries"

There are two guys, Eklavya and Zeemax, who can answer that question fully.

All I can work out is there is this "brilliant system" incorporated within the Islamic fibre that takes care of this issue!

Baig, is following a good Summary:
"Christians broke treaties whenever it suited them. Muslims honored their treaties. Christians killed their minorities. Muslims allowed people of other faith to live their life or leave with their property. Even if Muslims had to kill people of other faith, they made sure they killed equal number of Muslims.

One question - Why are there no minorities worth counting in Middle east? Kindly don't count Shia and Sunnis as minorities in those counteries.

I guess if someone who started at least a hundred wars (and screwed an equal number of chicks) can be considered a man of peace, Bush should be considered the most peace loving person ever to have lived.

Re: # 6
People who take gallons of cow urine as tonic should not object to camel urine drinkinhg who are sick. Really people should do reserch on both animals.
I know people who are prison for long time use self urine for massage as body becomes strong and he can survive whipping its common practice where is whipping is normal practice to decipline and improve morale.

Other example shows the sensitivity and appreciation of trees specially date tree who gives sweet dates year after. Now same people will not find fault with tree protection.

One has to understand symbolic message of these stories , but blocked heads of goats will never appreciate. To understand or appreciate culture one should be cultured.
Good night.

Re: # 12 Zee bhai
what you are saying is that the "big fish" eating "small fish" should be muslims and that would make it allright?

Pakistan was created for perhaps the same reasons; so we could have 'ghalba' over our own destiny; all that came out of is exactly what is written above. (btw; this view is not new but expressed by Ibn-e-Insha in his book "Urdu ki Akhri Kitab"; it is a good read!

'Ghalba' is the ultimate truism clearly laid out by Muhammad a long time ago. Without Ghalba, there's no life. There's no such thing as 'peaceful coexistence'. Big fish eats the small fish. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.